Match Engine 3.0 - discussion

[GillBate]

 
My level gone down from 643 to 576!
Hurry up! Update game manual! We need to know it before the first match.

[Ruta]

Calm down, you total team level dropped cause of morale drop. For players were a little changes only

[GillBate]

Calm down, you total team level dropped cause of morale drop. For players were a little changes only

Normally start with 615 something with Normal moral.
Though, yes, a little decreases by Teamwork effect.

[Derfos]

Also if they want a new contract, the level drops 2 to 3 points

[Ruta]

it is easy to check. Put your players on the market at highest prizes and you will see their level on v.good morale. Next just sum them up.
From my experience each player is 3-5 points low on okey morale then on v.good. so for 11 is about 35-55. if you players were on high very good morale or even superb yore level gone down even more.

add. Derfos made a right statement , too

Ps. if we would know your team we could say more.

[GillBate]

Can someone explain the new team report (premium)?
I do not know the different of color and how they work.

[GillBate]

  ok, now i know why my team level gone down too much.
The loan player returned to his team then it's a empty spot in team.
The missing level come from there. 

[chefo]

Haha, seems like staff are getting pretty desperate to destroy this game.
To think that I was actually considering to buy premium, thank god I didn't, would have definitely regretted it. 

Anyway folks fyi as long as you keep supporting the game nothing is going to change. Without profit they'll either start being active to win us back or close/sell the game which might actually be for the best taking into account the carelessness last few seasons..

[Ruta]

Haha, seems like staff are getting pretty desperate to destroy this game.
To think that I was actually considering to buy premium, thank god I didn't, would have definitely regretted it. 

Anyway folks fyi as long as you keep supporting the game nothing is going to change. Without profit they'll either start being active to win us back or close/sell the game which might actually be for the best taking into account the carelessness last few seasons..

maybe something is wrong with me , but I like this season changes At least AMC, AML and AMR now have some disadvantages . I past they had only pros- gave to attack and didn't participate in defense. So it went to situation when line up without MC, MR/Ml were superior , extreme example Thai U21 who plays 2 DMC and 2 AMC sometimes or even Argentina with their amazing Sandoval on AMC who was key man to win WC tree times. Now users need to balance their line-ups , IMHO

[Rincewind]

We urgently need some information about the engine changes!
Today I received the worst mark in a tactic I often received the best before. It is a huge difference and a sign for major change that deserves detailed explanation! I believe it is not just because of the opponent today...

[vasnov]

Absolute nonsense is new engine!!!

[Ruta]

Absolute nonsense is new engine!!!

ok, I have to ask couse you said nothing.Why do you think new engine is bad?

[vasnov]

Absolute nonsense is new engine!!!

ok, I have to ask couse you said nothing.Why do you think new engine is bad?

Seems all players have equal weight for the tactic.

[Ruta]

Absolute nonsense is new engine!!!

ok, I have to ask couse you said nothing.Why do you think new engine is bad?

Seems all players have equal weight for the tactic.

IMHO they don't

The colours explain only the roles of players, offensive, midfielders and defensive I think....

no, this is about how players contributed in each factor. Imho green gives 90-100%, yellows about 75-80% and reds about 45-55%

Quick excell table gives those thoughts

If you as not premium and don't see analisys it looks like defs and DMC give 100 % to defense and 50%to attack, MC gives 80%to both attack and defense and AMC, AML/R give 100% to attack and 50% to defense. Counted skills for each factors like ZM, OZM,PM, MM. OM..... looks same as before

[arnaud291]

information about the engine is indeed needed.

Just played my friendly, and had 4 red arrows with zone marking, when with same team last season i would have had around 1-2 blue one's.
Sadly, because of lack of information, i don't know why it has dropped so badly

[Team China]

Forget zone marking! You can not get even one blue arrow again!

[Rincewind]

IMHO they don't

Marking from 4+ to 4-! Do you think it is normal? Do you think it is a result from adding partial effects of 4 offensive players?

[Ruta]

information about the engine is indeed needed.

Just played my friendly, and had 4 red arrows with zone marking, when with same team last season i would have had around 1-2 blue one's.
Sadly, because of lack of information, i don't know why it has dropped so badly

agree looks like in new engine is harder to get descent ZM then before. But I think it is not bad. for me it was too easy to have very good ZM because 4 defenders have 3 excellent skills: positioning, acceleration and tackling. Now all players contribute in ZM.

@ Rincewind
in my analsys it looks that ZM afected more in new angine then OZM. It looks like defs have better OZM then atackers ZM. As I said above . it is harder to get descent ZM now

[arnaud291]

information about the engine is indeed needed.

Just played my friendly, and had 4 red arrows with zone marking, when with same team last season i would have had around 1-2 blue one's.
Sadly, because of lack of information, i don't know why it has dropped so badly

agree looks like in new engine is harder to get descent ZM then before. But I think it is not bad. for me it was too easy to have very good ZM because 4 defenders have 3 excellent skills: positioning, acceleration and tackling. Now all players contribute in ZM.

You're right, it was getting to easy to get the best outcome with ZM. With the new engine i expected to drop, but still, this is really a big difference :p. That's why i would like to have some information .. or if it would be possible, an updated manuel ....

[chefo]

maybe something is wrong with me , but I like this season changes At least AMC, AML and AMR now have some disadvantages . I past they had only pros- gave to attack and didn't participate in defense. So it went to situation when line up without MC, MR/Ml were superior , extreme example Thai U21 who plays 2 DMC and 2 AMC sometimes or even Argentina with their amazing Sandoval on AMC who was key man to win WC tree times. Now users need to balance their line-ups , IMHO

I was not referring to the changes. We don't have clear intel on what's changed so you can't say that you like them for sure. It might add more depth to the game and I myself am always looking forward to that.
My comment was on the overall behavior of staff and how they don't intend to change anything about it either and for me personally It's annoying how they are getting profit without giving the necessary feedback to the users for that.

[Ruta]

Anyway folks fyi as long as you keep supporting the game nothing is going to change. Without profit they'll either start being active to win us back or close/sell the game which might actually be for the best taking into account the carelessness last few seasons.. maybe something is wrong with me , but I like this season changes At least AMC, AML and AMR now have some disadvantages . I past they had only pros- gave to attack and didn't participate in defense. So it went to situation when line up without MC, MR/Ml were superior , extreme example Thai U21 who plays 2 DMC and 2 AMC sometimes or even Argentina with their amazing Sandoval on AMC who was key man to win WC tree times. Now users need to balance their line-ups , IMHO

I was not referring to the changes. We don't have clear intel on what's changed so you can't say that you like them for sure. It might add more depth to the game and I myself am always looking forward to that. My comment was on the overall behavior of staff and how they don't intend to change anything about it either and for me personally It's annoying how they are getting profit without giving the necessary feedback to the users for that.

the changes are pretty clear, the analysis  shows how much each position give to each settings. We don't know how it affected matches only  .  But results looks pretty normal, don't you think ?

In GKO we never have known about match engine. So don't expect much info from Admin now

[BuddAbass]

This update the engine changes ,Makes the game unbalanced.

[Ruta]

This update the engine changes ,makes the game unbalanced.

why? tell me more cause I think that now is more balanced and I explained above why


PS. I don't think that there is no bugs in this engine, this is GKO only :p But idea looks good

[chefo]

why? tell me more cause I think that now is more balanced and I explained above why

I think Ruta here wins the prize for the #1 supporter of the unannounced new engine

[vasnov]

information about the engine is indeed needed.

Just played my friendly, and had 4 red arrows with zone marking, when with same team last season i would have had around 1-2 blue one's.
Sadly, because of lack of information, i don't know why it has dropped so badly

agree looks like in new engine is harder to get descent ZM then before. But I think it is not bad. for me it was too easy to have very good ZM because 4 defenders have 3 excellent skills: positioning, acceleration and tackling. Now all players contribute in ZM.

@ Rincewind
in my analsys it looks that ZM afected more in new angine then OZM. It looks like defs have better OZM then atackers ZM. As I said above . it is harder to get descent ZM now

So Marking should be dropped by the game. Everyone we will be by Default Marking!!!