Author Topic: [BUG?] Error in team reports? (Read 6422 times)

Kr10s · « **on:** December 22, 2013, 10:37:18 PM »

I have the feeling that some calculation is missing in current team reports (for premium users: http://www.gokickoff.com/prem_team_ana.php):

Based on last season's announcement:

Quote from: admin on August 14, 2013, 12:58:01 PM

Every positions apart from goalkeeper will affect every tactics.
Each position, of course, has different weight factors contributing to each tactics.

Okay, seems reasonable and i am okay with that change, but we never had a clear explanation about how each position contribute to team tactics, based on what we can see in our premium reports:

In team marking:

DR, DC, DL, DMR, DMC and DML affect marking greatly
MR, MC and ML have a high influence in team marking
AMR, AMC, AML, FR, FC and FL have a low influence on team marking

Is it right? How much is each position's weight?

Okay, it seems reasonable so far and i would like to have some clarification, now... And most important: is there an average level used to calculate each marking level?
I ask this because i previous engine version, people were used to get high tactical levels avoiding to place players in specific positions (the MR, MC and ML positions always tended to drop team tactics), this new change seems like a great solution to increase MR, MC and ML value in market. But right now, when premium users want to see their team's tacical levels, they can see only a big sum! The more players you place behind, the higher your marking tactic will be, even placing an FC as DC, that is ridiculous! I am getting tactical levels higher than 500 just placing people behind, and opponent reports are still showing values around 0-100, this can't be right!

So dear admin, could you please fix the premium tool if it is broken and also clarify to all the GKO users, how importan is each position in team tactics? Thanks in advance...

Aquilicua · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2013, 12:15:55 AM »

daniele2607 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 23, 2013, 12:45:10 AM »

how we can read this new report??bhàà...

chespis · « **Reply #3 on:** December 23, 2013, 12:57:49 AM »

1- I think that Admin forgot tu use the AVERAGE of each tactic
2- We where talking with Carlos and we think that the colours show how the position affect in the tactic
a- green (Affect too much)
b- orange (Affect in a middle way)
c- pink (Affect too little)
That's our appreciation

We hope that Admin could Explian more

johnblasa · « **Reply #4 on:** December 23, 2013, 01:06:18 AM »

The colours explain only the roles of players, offensive, midfielders and defensive I think....

marctiello · « **Reply #5 on:** December 23, 2013, 09:55:09 AM »

In last season, skills hoghlighted now in red wasn't taken into account for tactics strebght calculation....Waiting for admin to release clear information about that...

JoseMou · « **Reply #6 on:** December 23, 2013, 10:01:10 AM »

АDMIN EXPLAIN US THESE FUCKING CHANGES IN GAME ENGINE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!

What a carelessness

Ruta · « **Reply #7 on:** December 23, 2013, 10:13:15 AM »

Quote from: johnblasa on December 23, 2013, 01:06:18 AM

The colours explain only the roles of players, offensive, midfielders and defensive I think....

no, this is about how players contributed in each factor. Imho green gives 100%, yellows about 80% and reds about 50%

Quick excel table gives those thoughts

Brian Clough · « **Reply #8 on:** December 23, 2013, 05:55:18 PM »

I have noticed another bug in this system

FR/L press tactics (UPM/USM) are GREEN, same as DL/R and DMs!!!

FR/L press tactics should be YELLOW at most! Even MC/ML/MR press tactics are yellow.

Also, I think if the forward winger has 2 players behind him on his wing, his press tactics should be red.
To illustrate, in the image on the left, the forward wingers' press tactics would be red. On the right, they would be yellow. Under no circumstances should they be green.

Ruta · « **Reply #9 on:** December 23, 2013, 06:35:09 PM »

Quote from: Brian Clough on December 23, 2013, 05:55:18 PM

I have noticed another bug in this system

FR/L press tactics (UPM/USM) are GREEN, same as DL/R and DMs!!!

FR/L press tactics should be YELLOW at most! Even MC/ML/MR press tactics are yellow.

Thinks same

should be yellows

Kr10s · « **Reply #10 on:** December 23, 2013, 06:46:57 PM »

Quote from: Ruta on December 23, 2013, 06:35:09 PM

Quote from: Brian Clough on December 23, 2013, 05:55:18 PM
I have noticed another bug in this system

FR/L press tactics (UPM/USM) are GREEN, same as DL/R and DMs!!!

FR/L press tactics should be YELLOW at most! Even MC/ML/MR press tactics are yellow.

Thinks same should be yellows

Of course they should be yellow at most!

Things like this proves that we lab mices for them, developers had a whole season to prepare new engine balabce properly and adapt the previously paid premium tools properly, and nothing works properly... to add, new season started more than 24hs ago and NOBODY FROM THE GKO STAFF ENTERED TO SEE IC SOMETHING IS WRONG!

No matter how much new featured they add from now on, don't expect more money from me, i'm done.

edwin22 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 24, 2013, 03:11:10 AM »

passing friends, as God will damage the game;
Explain us administration such as new football tactics;
please be kind enough to make things right for those who pay for this

JoseMou · « **Reply #12 on:** December 24, 2013, 09:52:50 AM »

I think there is a bug with OZM/OMM. Maybe D and DM values are calculated also at 100% for OZM/OMM and that's the reason for too many red arrows for marking in every match. Or maybe they are implemented new skills for UZM/OZM to balanced it with UMM/OMM but where is admin to explain us

After 2 days he said only "I will check" hohoho

I think admin is in Christmas holiday but we still waiting to learn WHAT IS THIS FUCKING NEW ENGINE

Ruta · « **Reply #13 on:** December 24, 2013, 10:50:33 AM »

Quote from: JoseMou on December 24, 2013, 09:52:50 AM

I think there is a bug with OZM/OMM. Maybe D and DM values are calculated also at 100% for OZM/OMM and that's the reason for too many red arrows for marking in every match. Or maybe they are implemented new skills for UZM/OZM to balanced it with UMM/OMM but where is admin to explain us After 2 days he said only "I will check" hohoho I think admin is in Christmas holiday but we still waiting to learn WHAT IS THIS FUCKING NEW ENGINE

Quote from: Ruta on December 23, 2013, 05:06:29 PM

Quote from: Luca on December 23, 2013, 03:39:18 PM
It is bug for sure with UZM ,I think they did not finished a work on it same as with tactic report of next team in premium option.
looks like in opponent team report

sums are counted in old way. When it is compared with new system for own team it makes all this mess.