The fuck is happening?

[Harper]

W T F! Just logged some minutes ago and realized that something stole my MILION G!!! Rotfl i had 1,159,757G and now it's only 159,757  G o________________________________O.


FIX IT PLEASE, WANTED TO BUY SOMEONE NOW!!! Cause i have difficult moments in league right now!

[Littmann]

W T F! Just logged some minutes ago and realized that something stole my MILION G!!! Rotfl i had 1,159,757G and now it's only 159,757  G o________________________________O.


FIX IT PLEASE, WANTED TO BUY SOMEONE NOW!!! Cause i have difficult moments in league right now!

None have stole your million. Admin made cash deduction  from your account because selling/buying player(s) over real prize.

[Harper]

o_OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? Better look in my transfer history.

[Littmann]

o_OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? Better look in my transfer history.

Probably because of this player
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=5645311

[Andy]

[Probably because of this player
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=5645311

I know we have been here before but......

This player is LA7 / PR 4 - IMHO 700,000G is a very good price for this player, I have paid more for similar

Harper, you need to write to GKO and explain circumstances, they said they would refund

Littmann - did you ever get your money back?

[Littmann]

[Probably because of this player
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=5645311

I know we ave been here before but......

This player is LA7 / PR 4 - IMHO 700,000G is a very good price for this player, I have paid more for similar

Harper, you need to write to GKO and explain circumatances, they said they would refund

Littmann - did you ever get your money back?

No. I was fighting and never got my money. I even must to sell one young and perspective player to fill my bank account (I was - 600 000 G after penalty).

[Harper]

Lol guys stop it. Im the moderator of Polish scene and also one of those guys who are fighting for better Gokickoff. Also i made databse with Polish names. U think im cheating, lol.

Thanx Andy.

[Andy]

Harper, Admin said this offence is not considered "cheating" so your name is intact but your bank balance is 1m light. Sorry!

I dont understand where GKO is going with this policy. The "market" knows the value of players, how can a computer/formula?

[Ruta]

Harper, Admin said this offence is not considered "cheating" so your name is intact but your bank balance is 1m light. Sorry!

I am courius, where said that? Give a link,please

I also think that 700 k for LA7 and PR 4 is good price . I 've seen a lot higher prizes!!!

[gabrielis]

Harper, Admin said this offence is not considered "cheating" so your name is intact but your bank balance is 1m light. Sorry!

I am courius, where said that? Give a link,please

I also think that 700 k for LA7 and PR 4 is good price . I 've seen a lot higher prizes!!!

I had 4mln offer for a 5/10/4, would this be bannable?

[Andy]

Harper, Admin said this offence is not considered "cheating" so your name is intact but your bank balance is 1m light. Sorry!

I am courius, where said that? Give a link,please

I also think that 700 k for LA7 and PR 4 is good price . I 've seen a lot higher prizes!!!

I was referring to thread thread where admin told us of these new rules .

 http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?action=post;quote=76936;topic=7487.0

Admin actually said:

New Rules
(2-c) Money deduction for selling an overpriced player to keep the market price in balance.

* (2-c) is not considered as a penalty.

I interpreted this as meaning the over charging as not being a cheating offense.

[Ruta]

 
I was referring to thread thread where admin told us of these new rules .

 http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?action=post;quote=76936;topic=7487.0

Admin actually said:

New Rules
(2-c) Money deduction for selling an overpriced player to keep the market price in balance.

* (2-c) is not considered as a penalty.

I interpreted this as meaning the over charging as not being a cheating offense.

I've read this, too. This is in general. But when wy are talking about overprizing For sure , not this case!

[Andy]

I agree this player has not been over priced. But we think that the GKO formula has deemed the sale to be over priced .

Of course we may be barking up the wrong tree andin fact Harper has been bank- robbed! 

[Harper]

Lols, so they think he is not worth 700k (Lol it was so long time ago) so they fucked up me for a 1mln!!! So i paid 300k and lost player.

Oh i think i know what's going on. I just reported one player for cheating (overpriced transfer between his two clubs, or just with same IP). And i know he lost 1mln for this thing. So probably admin did fault and also did a steal on me, lol.

I won't be satisfied with just my 1mln back.

[Igecot]

Have you sent Mail to the admins Harper??  It doesn't make sense to me , that they took you 1 milion for a 700.000 G player, I think that's not the problem . Maybe something else !! Still you should contact them and not write here on forum, because none can help you here !

[Littmann]

I really can't believe that you have hooked up for that player.I said probably,not for sure.Maybe something different is reason for deduction your money.I never got back my 1 100 000 which they took me becaus of 590 000 G transfer so I  doubt that you'll get your money back.

[gabrielis]

I really can't believe that you have hooked up for that player.I said probably,not for sure.Maybe something different is reason for deduction your money.I never got back my 1 100 000 which they took me becaus of 590 000 G transfer so I  doubt that you'll get your money back.

managers should be afraid of selling players because they can be punished anytime

[Andy]

You are right gabrielis.

The market is a nightmare right now, there are plenty of players available for prices well above their GKO prices but the sellers are at great risk of losing all their proceeds. But what can they do? No one wants to sell a player with high LA without getting substantial monetary compensation. I guess they need to hang on to the player until his CA and value start to rise? Is that what GKo want us to do? But why?

Anyway, I am alright Jack,  I will just carry on buying.........

Littmann, have you even had a reponse about your refund?

[Littmann]

You are right gabrielis.

The market is a nightmare right now, there are plenty of players available for prices well above their GKO prices but the sellers are at great risk of losing all their proceeds. But what can they do? No one wants to sell a player with high LA without getting substantial monetary compensation. I guess they need to hang on to the player until his CA and value start to rise? Is that what GKo want us to do? But why?

Anyway, I am alright Jack,  I will just carry on buying.........

Littmann, have you even had a reponse about your refund?

Yes,on forum, that my player wasn't 3/5/3 as I mentioned but 3/5/2. About money and rest - one big NOTHING! 

[blahblah]

So if we buy\sell above whatever GKO thinks they are worth we get fined?

Awesome........

[gabrielis]

So if we buy\sell above whatever GKO thinks they are worth we get fined?

Awesome........

actually, they were punishing ppl for overpricing since season 1 and i agree with that, but not at this situation, 700k for a young with good LA player is reasonable price

[intervention]

It is possible that the algorithm that identified these over pricings since season 1 has not kept up with the general development and improvement of player quality. The result would be similar to your situation.

IMHO you should be able to sell any of your players for any amount of money... however, due to the amount of cheats that try their luck here (amongst many awesome people) i can understand GKO limiting the ability to sell bad players at high prices to ghost teams. If you look from a different perspective you could also argue that it helps smaller teams compete in the transfer market with managers being scared of selling their player for 'too much'.

The only real soulution to stopping genuine players getting caught in this web is to introduce proper player prices, then to put a sensible percentage cap depending on CA/LA/PR. This would be a rough example...

Player value 300000G... CA 3/LA 5/PR 3 would allow you to add 20% so maximum sale price 360000G
Player value 600000G... CA 6/LA 10/PR 6 would allow you to add 40% so maximum sale price 840000G

This would keep lesser players more attainable for lesser teams and better players only available for better teams, its not like Messi would ever be playing for a second division team... so why in GKO

[Brian Clough]

well, this kind of thing shouldn't result in such large penalties!

if this is going to happen, then only penalize the player the difference between what admin thinks is "fair" and what was charged!!!!

1 million G fine for selling a player for too much is excessive imo

[intervention]

I dont know to be honest... wouldnt you say a 300000G fine in the case of someone over pricing bad players with the intent of cheating would be acceptable. It just appears harsh because in this case as it is most likely a mistake by GKO and an innocent player has been punished 

N/B... Any chance we could get the subject title modified to something a bit less... direct . Younger people also play

[admin]

You have been penalized from the case " Osvaldo Escárcega (5182737)".
Although the prize is reasonable but the player was bought from an inactive team
in the same LAN which we believe it is your subsidiary team.

Next time please send an email to [email protected].
Please understand that we don't want to deduct anyone budget if not necessary.