Author Topic: Did I get swindled (Read 6161 times)

Levan · « **on:** November 09, 2015, 11:54:35 AM »

Recently I acquired a player that should have had LA8 and PR 3
Well I have this information from the person who sold this player. Before he was selling this player I got interested in "young" GK that could be used for NT. so as a NT manager I asked him about the PR and LA so he told me that this player had PR 3 an LA 8. Then after some time he tried to sell this player, and he was advertising this player to have PR 3 and LA 8 So i bought him and now the scouting report tells me that his PR is 2 and LA 6 but the prediction says that he might go up to 8

So did he lie or is this a game bug

Konatsu · « **Reply #1 on:** November 09, 2015, 12:50:56 PM »

You should provide people with the player's ID instead of only giving a screenshot.

tucko89 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 09, 2015, 01:08:16 PM »

PR can decrease after 21 years, but his LA is fixed. The only thing that is fixed is his LA, CA can increase above his LA, and with time decrease under his LA. So if the manager told you that his(now yours) player is LA8 with PR3 he clearly lied to you, and you should warn us who is this manager, so we can approach his players with caution.

Levan · « **Reply #3 on:** November 09, 2015, 03:12:29 PM »

Quote from: Konatsu on November 09, 2015, 12:50:56 PM

You should provide people with the player's ID instead of only giving a screenshot.

Sorry here you go

http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=8075445

8075445

Quote from: tucko89 on November 09, 2015, 01:08:16 PM

PR can decrease after 21 years, but his LA is fixed. The only thing that is fixed is his LA, CA can increase above his LA, and with time decrease under his LA. So if the manager told you that his(now yours) player is LA8 with PR3 he clearly lied to you, and you should warn us who is this manager, so we can approach his players with caution.

No he is 19 YO

tucko89 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 09, 2015, 03:24:03 PM »

Quote from: Levan on November 09, 2015, 03:12:29 PM

Quote from: Konatsu on November 09, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
You should provide people with the player's ID instead of only giving a screenshot.

Sorry here you go

http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=8075445

8075445

Quote from: tucko89 on November 09, 2015, 01:08:16 PM
PR can decrease after 21 years, but his LA is fixed. The only thing that is fixed is his LA, CA can increase above his LA, and with time decrease under his LA. So if the manager told you that his(now yours) player is LA8 with PR3 he clearly lied to you, and you should warn us who is this manager, so we can approach his players with caution.

No he is 19 YO

Is there any chances that you misunderstood the seller, often when posting ads for players a lot of managers add the prediction for GKs, as almost always gk goes one ca above la, the price is too low for him to be LA8 with PR3 gk, as gk are pretty expensive.

Levan · « **Reply #5 on:** November 09, 2015, 03:31:42 PM »

Well take a look at our conversation

I don't know looks like his LA was 8

same thing was written on his players page when he was selling this player

Andy · « **Reply #6 on:** November 09, 2015, 06:16:51 PM »

There is bit of a bug here. The predictor often over predicts the eventual CA of goalkeepers but I am afraid it is wrong, they will stop developing when CA = LA like all players.

I think you may have to give the benefit of the doubt to the selling manager and assume he didn't know but yes you have been mislead.

I am sorry for you, it shouldn't happen.............

mihut · « **Reply #7 on:** November 09, 2015, 07:04:38 PM »

there is no bug and no misunderstanding at fault for this situation. he clearly wrote LA8 and the print screen clearly shows LA6.

the seller is a liar. no doubt about it. end of story.

Drifter · « **Reply #8 on:** November 09, 2015, 07:56:37 PM »

Clearly there is something wrong here. The LA says he is a 6 but the prediction of growth puts him at an 8. This is the first time I have seen a player display look like this. I would question admin about the player incase there is a bug.

Levan · « **Reply #9 on:** November 09, 2015, 08:07:34 PM »

Quote from: Drifter on November 09, 2015, 07:56:37 PM

Clearly there is something wrong here. The LA says he is a 6 but the prediction of growth puts him at an 8. This is the first time I have seen a player display look like this. I would question admin about the player incase there is a bug.

Yes, that's why I'm not making my assumption yet about dishonest seller.

I never seen prediction exceed the LA before, Well I will email admin hope he will come up with a better answer.

However if that is true and I been mislead then I might have a lot of problem in my NT, I might have players that have LA 4 and I been told that they have 9 and 10

mihut · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2015, 08:38:52 PM »

Quote from: Levan on November 09, 2015, 08:07:34 PM

Quote from: Drifter on November 09, 2015, 07:56:37 PM
Clearly there is something wrong here. The LA says he is a 6 but the prediction of growth puts him at an 8. This is the first time I have seen a player display look like this. I would question admin about the player incase there is a bug.

Yes, that's why I'm not making my assumption yet about dishonest seller.

I never seen prediction exceed the LA before, Well I will email admin hope he will come up with a better answer.

However if that is true and I been mislead then I might have a lot of problem in my NT, I might have players that have LA 4 and I been told that they have 9 and 10

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2    D C    Ramaz Makharashvili    17       山抹微云    10    4
3    M C    Ilia Kazbegi    20       โจโฉ    10    3
4    M L    Amiran Javakhishvili    19       โจโฉ    9    3
5    D C    Mamuka Takaishvili    18       Great of team    9    3
6    D R    Zaal Jugashvili    17       ECONOMIC F.C.    9    3
7    DM L    Farsadan Tbileli    19       โจโฉ    9    3
8    M C    Zaal Kaladze    20       โจโฉ    9    3
9    M R    Bondo Gelashvili    18       LIVERBIRDRED    9    3
10    F C    Galaqtion Tkeshelashvili    15       lesliehe    9    3
11    F C    Aleksandre Kandelaki    19       Liga Real Quito    9    3
12    M L,AM L    Gocha Cikhistavi    20       Hall of The Dead    8    3
13    D C    Abo Tatqaqishvili    18       bacerona    8    4
14    DM L    Levan Tbileli    18       Bakhvi SK    8    3
15    D L    Pavle Kldiashvili    20       JiX    8    4
16    D C    Dachi Cicishvili    18       Dark Horse FC    8    4
17    M R,AM R    Ramaz Magaladze    20       Maluku utara Fc    8    3
18    D C    Fridon Chavchavadze    20       星彩之梦    8    3
19    DM C,M C    Jemal Kifiani    15       ReaL of MaN    8    2
20    M C    Gela Aspindzeli    19       Airforce United F.C.    8    2
21    M C,AM C    Davit Beruashvili    17       The One    8    5
22    M C    Jemal Cikhistavi    19       Siracusa    8    3
23    M C    Koba Iashvili    15       FC Sioni Bolnisi    7    3
24    D R,DM R    Goderdzi Mchedlidze    20       เสื้อใต้    7    2
25    M C    Aleksandre Kldiashvili    19       ATL Braves fc    7    2
26    D C    Lazare Nachkebia    19       Ozurgeti    7    4
27    D C    Gela Magaladze    18       Sarainto Killer    7    2
28    F C    Bidzina Melikidze    19       Blue wing    7    3
29    M C    Murtaz Kaladze    20       dnice    7    2
30    M C    Chiaber Amilakhvari    18       Packpaew FC    7    2
31    F C    Eduard Cikhistavi    19       Tikkung FC    7    3
32    M C    Murtaz Elizbarashvili    18       bacerona    7    4
33    D C    Vajh Zaridze    20       Real Paola    7    3
34    F C    Shalva Qavtaradze    20       dimitri33    7    2
35    M R    Andro Jafaridze    20       FC Ochkhomuri    7    2
36    F C    Batu Chokheli    18       KornKicK    7    2
37    F C    Amiran Elizbarashvili    19       MARTO U.S.    7    4
38    F C    Dachi Iashvili    17       nangam city    7    2
39    D C    Jaba Baratashvili    19       BlackSwan    7    3
40    D L    Badri Odishvili    17       FC Sioni Bolnisi    7    4
41    AM R    Irakli Sadzaglishvili    18       ultraman555    7    3
42    F C    Bartlome Sulashvili    20       星云    7    2
43    M C    Geronti Melikidze    17       Lomebi    7    2
44    F C    Abram Akhvlediani    19       bacerona    7    4
45    D R,DM R    Givi Bejanishvili    17       FC Sioni Bolnisi    7    3
46    DM R    Farnaoz Shalikashvili    20       Not_Enought    7    2
47    AM C,F C    Gubaz Khucishvili    18       A.C. MONZA1912    7    4
48    DM C    Ushangi Kvirikashvili    17       LFCT    7    3
49    D RC,DM C    Jano Cholokashvili    19       pendrekovac    7    3
50    M C    Roin Loladze    19       Bakhvi SK    7    3
51    D L    Vajh Odishvili    19       liverpool neverdies    7    2
52    DM R    Galaqtion Meskhi    19       Steaua Nationala    7    3
53    D C    Bachana Tbileli    20       Swamp Donkeys    7    3
54    D R,DM R    Mindia Akhvlediani    18       Legendary    6    3
55    AM L    Gia Guramishvili    19       e.c.madrilan    6    2
56    D C    Shalva Mkheidze    17       FAHALE FC    6    2
57    F C    Konstantine Melikidze    19       Sokhumi    6    2
58    AM C,F C    Fridon Shonia    18       FC Sioni Bolnisi    6    3
59    D R,DM R    Saba Saginashvili    19       河南宝丰    6    4
60    F C    Besik Cicishvili    17       nongnotabma FC    6    2
61    M C    Batu Iashvili    20       CAWANX FC    6    2
62    M C    Bachana Chiqovani    19       dimitri33    6    2
63    F C    Chichiko Abuseridze    20       Nuna FC    6    3
64    DM R    Eduard Meskhi    19       Tewada smiling    6    2
65    D C    Jano Ishkhneli    19       Green Gang    6    3
66    D R,DM R    Gocha Tatarashvili    17       Al Jazira    6    4

1    M C    Gocha Mkheidze    21       โจโฉ    9    3
2    D C    Jumber Mgalobloshvili    22       Fc_Math    9    2
3    DM L,M CL    Koba Javakhi    22       The One    8    2
4    D C    Arsen Dadiani    23       Factory Hell    8    1
5    AM C    Mindia Zarandia    21       Viking United    8    3
6    D C    Tennyson Turnbull    26       Del-Wut Mafia    8    1
7    D C    Basil Chivadze    23       Ozurgeti    8    1
8    AM L,F C    Ucha Khizaneishvili    24       FC Spartak Trnava    8    1
9    M L,AM L    Beddis Al Mukhtar    24       Clamart    8    1
10    D R    Galaqtion Bedianidze    21       Nok_Lae FC    8    2
11    DM L    Tekle Chikradze    21       dimitri33    7    2
12    M C    Bidzina Sadzaglishvili    21       Swamp Donkeys    7    3
13    AM L,F C    Bondo Dekanoidze    22       Akademia    7    1
14    DM C    Chase Queshire    22       SaiMai FC    7    1
15    D R    Farsadan Javakhishvili    21       สมองกบ FC    7    2
16    F C    Ibiza Taher    23       FC Ochkhomuri    7    1
17    DM C    Koba Cikhistavi    21       虚空流浪者    7    3
18    D R,DM R    Arsen Cikhistavi    22       Sokhumi    7    1
19    AM C    Beqa Kaladze    21       King Of Love ll    7    3
20    F C    Argan Saad    24       BlackSwan    7    1
21    M L    Saba Melikidze    22       lfc1969    7    1
22    D R    Erekle Kereselidze    21       bacerona    7    3
23    D C    Soslan Chuburidze    21       islam fc    7    3
24    D C    Emzar Abashidze    21       Debbie_bery    7    2
25    M L    Sonny Woodcock    24       Red Devil F.C.    7    1
26    M L,AM L    Tevdore Merabishvili    22       Bakhvi SK    7    1
27    F C    Giorgi Chavchavadze    23       temo    7    1
28    D C    Givi Kifiani    22       Lomebi    7    1
29    F C    Ora Hobbs    24       Norwich City    7    1
30    D R    Amastan Al Dalharni    24       GreanInw    7    1
31    AM R    Liamine Zuabi    22       Bakhvi SK    7    1
32    AM R    Zaza Kandelaki    21       temo    7    2
33    D L    Silver Morrish    25       dnice    7    1
34    D R    Archil Cicishvili    21       toyotasawang    6    2
35    D C    Akatelaji Ouakili    23       Bakhvi SK    6    1
36    M L,AM L    Vakhtang Qartvelishvili    21       ซาไก ยูไนเต็ด    6    3
37    F C    Abo Kandelaki    23       stanfort    6    1
38    M L,AM L    Saba Merabishvili    24       conggo    6    1
39    M C,AM C    Nazim Akouayn    23       Sokhumi    6    1
40    M C    Wilson Jacobson    25       renegado f.c.    6    1
41    F C    Zaal Khizanishvili    22       世纪军团    6    2
42    D C    Efremia Kandelaki    23       BlackSwan    6    1
43    D CL    Beauregard Hightower    25       StartoArsenal    6    1

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2    GK    Amiran Davitashvili    17       FC Sioni Bolnisi    7    3
3    GK    Otar Khetaguri    19       Swamp Donkeys    6    2
4    GK    Saba Edisherashvili    17       FC Sioni Bolnisi    6    4
5    GK    Zaza Tbileli    17       White power    6    2
6    GK    Niko Onofrishvili    18       FC Ochkhomuri    6    2
7    GK    Dali Al Shahrani    23       Sokhumi    5    1
8    GK    Lado Dekanoidze    20       SEaBIsCUiT    5    3
9    GK    Arsen Cikhistavi    18       Dinosaurus    5    2
10    GK    Kristopher Easom    39       LittleCat villa    5    1
11    GK    Akaki Abuseridze    17       ♥    5    4
12    GK    Ocean Bradford    35       YellowBird forest    5    1

Levan · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2015, 08:54:15 PM »

mihut

I am impressed and thank you for sharing it, it will help me a lot

Although there are few managers out there that I really trust: โจโฉ is one of them he really is a saver

Is that a supporters feature ?

Andy · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2015, 08:54:55 PM »

So I had a goalkeeper 7/4. The predictor said he would make it to CA8. I was excited, I thought he would be something special but as soon as he hit LA7 the predictor changed to the normal " this player should see no more improvement" and sure enough is development improvements stopped.

I recall other people mentioning the same. It is a bug and it only applies to goalkeepers

Cheers,
Andy

Levan · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2015, 09:12:04 PM »

Quote from: Andy on November 09, 2015, 08:54:55 PM

So I had a goalkeeper 7/4. The predictor said he would make it to CA8. I was excited, I thought he would be something special but as soon as he hit LA7 the predictor changed to the normal " this player should see no more improvement" and sure enough is development improvements stopped.

I recall other people mentioning the same. It is a bug and it only applies to goalkeepers

Cheers,
Andy

Well I guess that is the case. I was so happy that Georgias NT can finally get a proper GK
Well at least there is a bright side here. Well at least other managers didn't buy him because of my lead ( I offered few managers this player). Would put me in a bad situation

Brian Clough · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2015, 07:18:36 AM »

Quote from: Levan on November 09, 2015, 03:31:42 PM

Well take a look at our conversation

I don't know looks like his LA was 8

same thing was written on his players page when he was selling this player

Like Mihut said, his LA is 6, the manager is exploiting this bug in his favour. This is also known as lying. He might reach CA7 if used very often but almost impossible he will reach CA8

Levan · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2015, 10:33:35 PM »

Quote from: Brian Clough on November 10, 2015, 07:18:36 AM

Quote from: Levan on November 09, 2015, 03:31:42 PM
Well take a look at our conversation

I don't know looks like his LA was 8

same thing was written on his players page when he was selling this player

Like Mihut said, his LA is 6, the manager is exploiting this bug in his favour. This is also known as lying. He might reach CA7 if used very often but almost impossible he will reach CA8

Well it looks like I been lied to, that sux.