Author Topic: Nationaal Team Se11-12 (Read 6210 times)

Red · « **on:** May 05, 2014, 05:28:51 PM »

Hello All
National Team manager Gobinho did ask me for a favor to present best Dutch players including hot prospect youth boys to select best team and plan strategy for next two years.I decide also to present similar list for U21 players and suggest some steps...Our U21 team has big chance to qualify for World Cup this season.We have many really good U21 players which can be part of main team already now.However this generation should show their best in U21 this year and next year step as even better players to First National Team.Here we go...

Main Team
GK
1.Theofilus Dreessen 21y. 188cm 610,200 6/4 FC MARCINKONYS
2.Richard Lucas 22y. 190cm 620,600 7/2 The_Mad_Joker
3.Rafaël Aarden 22y. 188cm 588,000 6/2 Monte di Malo
Future Star
1.Theodorus Haenraets 19y. 186cm 388,666 8/5 VV Rhoon *

DR/DMR
1.Olaf Van der Hout      23y. DR      904,000 8/2 FC Hangover
2.Frederik Kranz      24y. DMR     770,400 7/1 FK.PROVO
3.Marinus Alberts 21y. DMRC 689,332 DT.Chelsea
Future star
We need PA10+

DL/DML
1.Daniël Van Wegberg      24y. DL     850,000 -The Castle-
2.Jesse Romijnders      18y. DCL      739,999 8/5 Old World Galaxy    *
3.Sjaak Kuiper      21y. DL     734,932
4.Antonie Sneijers 23y. DL     699,066 Rouyn Noranda
Future Star
1.Guus Joncker      17y. DL     279,999 9/4 Liverpool Utd.
2.Alfred Agterop      18y. DL/DML 181,666 9/3 Man Blue

DC
1.Guus Yonker      26y. DC 181cm    1,056,000 NoMoney Club
2.Rafaël Schneider      22y. DC 179cm 776,532 8/2 VV Rhoon
3.Jesse Romijnders      18y. DCL 178cm 739,999 8/5 Old World Galaxy
4.Ludo Van Rossum      23y. DC 184cm     717,599 VV Rhoon
5.Frans Van der Venne 19y. DC 187cm     604,265 8/3 BHAC FC
Future star
1.Koenraad Antuma      16y. DC 175cm     260,000    12/3 pawai fc *
+ we need PA10+

DMC/MC
1.Lucas Dykstra      28y. DMC 180cm 1,012,000 7/1 zeab_kaokae
Future Star
1.Koen Van Buren      19y. DMC 173cm      401,199 9/3 GA.C. Milan.
+    We need PA10+

MC/AMC
1.Luuk Lyon      23y. AMC        982,666 9/1
2.Gert Braband      24y. MC           919,066 8/1 Duckpool Km
3.Quinten Hofwegen      22y. MC         811,199 GDiamond United
4.Meindert Arbeider      20y. AMC        747,999 8/4 VV Rhoon
Future star
1.Kobus Tillens      16y. AMC/MRC     416,932 10/4 los albos del imperio *

MR/AMR
1.Marijn Dreese      23y. MR     813,200 8/1 BUNGARAYA
    2.Gustaaf Langbroek 20y. MR         734,400 7/6 VV Rhoon
    3.Hendrik Bakker      25y. AMR         768,400 Nandreebs Football Club
    4.Lucas Van Daele      22y. AMR         713,332 Rosulje Eagles
Future star
We need PA10+

ML/AML
1.Arthur Daelman      23y.   ML           997,332 9/1
2.Tuur Haas      23y.    AML        850,666 8/1 Skyline
3.Esmé Van der Hout      21y.    ML/AML         755,332 8/3 VV Rhoon
4.Sjoerd Akkerman      20y.    ML         700,400 8/5 Sebako
Future star
We need PA10+

FC
1.Joeri Venner      21y.   FC    173cm 859,732 10/3 Panda Dangerous CFC
2.Norbert Admiraal      19y.   FC    189cm 938,666 9/4 TIKI-TAKA BARCELONA
3.Stef Seeger      21y.   FC    181cm     870,266 8/3 VV Rhoon
4.Christiaan Reynder      26y.   FC 186cm 813,200 8/1 geni kameni
5.Roeland De Jonker      17y.   FC    187cm 788,799 8/3 Sampdoria
6.Alex Schoorel      22y.     FC    183cm 717,599 CSM Unirea Sllobozia
Future star
We need PA11+


U21 Team
GK
1.Theofilus Dreessen 21y. 188cm 610,200 6/4 FC MARCINKONYS
2.Theo Van Asch 19y. 173cm 546,000
DR/DMR
1.Marinus Alberts 21y. DMRC 689,332 DT.Chelsea
2.Hermanus Apperlo 21y. DMR 617,066 The Toy Dolls
DL/DML
1.Jesse Romijnders      18y. DCL     739,999 8/5 Old World Galaxy
2.Sjaak Kuiper      21y. DL     734,932
3.Lourens Van Dale 21y. DML/ML 620,600
DC
1.Jesse Romijnders      18y. DCL 178cm 739,999 8/5 Old World Galaxy
2.Frans Van der Venne 19y. DC 187cm     604,265 8/3 BHAC FC
3.Thomas Adriaansen     20y. DC 569,932 Tungoalie FC
4.Ruud Coumans 20y. DC 189cm 408,000 5/8/4
DMC/MC/AMC
1.Meindert Arbeider 20y. AMC     747,999 8/4 VV Rhoon
2.Marinus Alberts 21y. DMRC 689,332 DT.Chelsea
3.Raf Adams      21y. MC     665,600 GAC.ALIANZA
4.Yvo Schoorl 18y. MCR      650,132 VV Rhoon
MR/AMR
1.Gustaaf Langbroek 20y. MR     734,400 7/6 VV Rhoon
2.Yvo Schoorl 18y. MCR      650,132 VV Rhoon
3.Nick Houtman      21y. AMR 594,999 CRunited
ML/AML
1.Esmé Van der Hout 21y.    ML/AML   755,332 8/3 VV Rhoon
2.Sjoerd Akkerman      20y.    ML       700,400 8/5 Sebako
3.Bert Ramaker      19y.    AML/FC 686,665 SaiMai FC
4.Felix Schoorl      17y.   AML      680,532 fantastic 11
FC
1.Joeri Venner      21y.   FC     859,732 10/3 Panda Dangerous CFC
2.Norbert Admiraal      19y.   FC     938,666 9/4 TIKI-TAKA BARCELONA
3.Stef Seeger      21y.   FC      870,266 8/3 VV Rhoon
4.Roeland De Jonker 17y.   FC       788,799 8/3 Sampdoria

In my selection I did analyse current value of a player,his potential,experience,age and height for central defenders and forwards.All skills are hidden,so I think Gobinho will decide after this year if he need some extra selection for his tactic etc.Some of players lose a chance to develop to their best potential ,so they are not on that list.Any questions and suggestion are very welcome.

Good Luck Gobinho and Beachelona !!!

PS.Great season 11 for all teams

Gobinho · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2014, 06:58:01 PM »

HOLLY SH*T GREAT JOB MATE !!!

beachelona · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2014, 08:31:22 AM »

Thank you very much red devil...

papsarmy · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2014, 04:45:06 PM »

ok.... this is the best NL has to offer..?

Red · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2014, 04:02:50 PM »

Quote from: papsarmy on May 28, 2014, 04:45:06 PM

ok.... this is the best NL has to offer..?

Yep,and most of them play for other leagues...
Thailand 2nd league teams are similar to Netherland NT

Netherland Total users :56 (active about 20?)
Thailand Total users :6542
However best players in this game are not born yet.We need more managers working with youths ,respect domestic challange,always try to win games in WCL and National qulification to keep and improve our ranking,this will pay out in future in numbers of teams in WCL and create better chance for NT in national competitions.More teams in WCL means stronger top level and that means more money to all teams.This year I spend both mots in WCL qualification,I know that my chances were very small...Unfortunatelly other leagues are stronger and stronger each season.

Dick73 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2014, 12:28:27 PM »

Ik wil gerust helpen, maar dan moet er eerst eens geld binnen komen. Speel nu al een tijdje maar schiet niet echt veel op...

Red · « **Reply #6 on:** September 13, 2014, 06:21:44 AM »

Update Main Team season 12 - qualification to World Cup !!!
GK 1.Theodorus Haenraets 20y. 186cm       557,599 8/5 VV Rhoon
2.Theofilus Dreessen 22y. 188cm 662,999 FC MARCINKONYS
3.Richard Lucas 23y. 190cm 645,332 The_Mad_Joker
4.Rafaël Aarden 23y. 188cm 606,332 Monte di Malo
Future Star
1.We need PA10+

DR/DMR
1.Olaf Van der Hout 24y. DR 951,599 FC Hangover
2.Frederik Kranz 25y. DMR 806,666 FK.PROVO
3.Marinus Alberts 22y. DMRC 708,132 DT.Chelsea
   4.Mannes Van Rumpade 22y. DR 707,200 ThunderBolt
Future star
We need PA10+

DL/DML
1.Daniël Van Wegberg 26y. DL 901,332 -The Castle-
2.Jesse Romijnders 20y. DCL 964,266 8/5 Old World Galaxy *
3.Sjaak Kuiper 23y. DL 756,000
4.Antonie Sneijers 25y. DL 753,332 Rouyn Noranda
Future Star
We need PA10+

DC
1.Guus Yonker 27y. DC 181cm 1,071,999 NoMoney Club
2.Frans Van der Venne 20y. DC 187cm 827,466 8/3 BHAC FC
3.Jesse Romijnders 19y. DCL 178cm 964,266 8/5 Old World Galaxy
4.Rafaël Schneider 23y. DC 179cm 790,400 VV Rhoon
    5.Ludo Van Rossum 24y. DC 184cm 751,999 VV Rhoon

Future star
1.Koenraad Antuma 17y. DC 175cm 510,000 12/3 pawai fc *
+ we need PA10+

DMC/MC
1.Lucas Dykstra 29y. DMC 180cm 1,012,000 zeab_kaokae
Future Star
We need PA9+

MC/AMC
1.Luuk Lyon 25y. AMC 1,024,532
2.Gert Braband 26y. MC 967,199 Duckpool Km
3.Quinten Hofwegen 24y. MC 826,799 GDiamond United
4.Meindert Arbeider 22y. AMC 776,532 VV Rhoon
Future star
1.Kobus Tillens 17y. AMC/MRC 648,000 10/4 los albos del imperio *

MR/AMR
1.Marijn Dreese 24y. MR 850,666 BUNGARAYA
2.Gustaaf Langbroek 21y. MR 755,332 VV Rhoon
3.Hendrik Bakker 26y. AMR 756,132 Nandreebs Football Club
4.Lucas Van Daele 23y. AMR 748,000 Rosulje Eagles
Future star
We need PA10+

ML/AML
1.Arthur Daelman 24y. ML 1,039,600
2.Tuur Haas 24y. AML 873,866 Skyline
    3.Felix Schoorl 18y. AML 842,400 fantastic 11
5.Esmé Van der Hout 22y. ML/AML 755,332 VV Rhoon
4.Sjoerd Akkerman 21y. ML 790,400 8/5 Sebako
    6.Hein Akkersdijk 23y. AML    806,666
Future star
We need PA10+

FC
1.Joeri Venner 22y. FC 173cm 1,100,000 Panda Dangerous CFC
2.Norbert Admiraal 20y. FC 189cm 1,056,000 9/4 TIKI-TAKA BARCELONA
3.Stef Seeger 22y. FC 181cm 934,132 VV Rhoon
4.Christiaan Reynder 27y. FC 186cm 909,332 geni kameni
5.Roeland De Jonker 18y. FC 187cm 892,665 8/3 Sampdoria
6.Bert Ramaker 21y. FC/AML 180cm 867,999 8/3 SaiMAi fC
Future star
We need PA11+

Ps.I'm Busy with U21shortlist, but it will take some time, because we have to take into account qualifications in the season no.15

Red · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2014, 10:28:13 PM »

Hi Beachelona !!!
Same like last season I prepair small shortlist,this time I think U21 team will be used to train our best talents.That system where talented players are playing friendly games in main and U21 team is also work in all best National teams of Gokickoff world.Gobinho knows a lot about that and I think togheter with You will build up strong National Team which could be at least "black horse"

In next seasons our best juniors are strong enough to play in main team,thank's to that U21 friendly games can be used to train young boys already for 4 seasons ahead.To make it all more clear first present You best selection for qualification in season nr.13
GK Theodorus Haenraets 20y. 186cm 557,599 8/5 VV Rhoon
DM R Ad Reijnder    20       HOI UNITED    618,000
D CL    Jesse Romijnders    19       Old World Galaxy    964,266
DC Koenraad Antuma 17y. DC 175cm 510,000 12/3 pawai fc
DC Frans Van der Venne    20       BHAC FC    827,466
D L    Theunis De Witt    19       koki    678,400
M RC    Yvo Schoorl    19       VV Rhoon    720,800
M RC,AM C    Kobus Tillens    17       los albos del imperio    648,000
AM L    Felix Schoorl    18       Hellfire    842,400
F C    Norbert Admiraal    20       TIKI-TAKA BARCELONA    1,056,000
F C    Roeland De Jonker    18       Sampdoria    892,665
AM L,F C    Bert Ramaker    20       SaiMai FC    867,999

As You see some players will be ready and it looks strong but we need better players for DR/DMR and DL/DML and some reserve for each position.To train a player in this system beside playing national games is also very important to let him play in club at least two/three games in week(including one/two games in league) and set training by very good coach.If a player dont play at club playing in national team will be only waste of time.How it looks like You can see at those big talents...
F C    Lievin Herbert    19       FC Petrolul Ploiesti    10/4
DM CL,M C    Bartholomeus Dahlmans    19       FC Petrolul Ploiesti    10/4
F C    Robbe Bul    20       FC Petrolul Ploiesti    9/4
D L,DM L    Alfred Agterop    19       Man Blue    9/3
It is already too late for them

and we have more similar...

Ok,now our hot prospect boys...
1. Koenraad Antuma 17y. DC 175cm 510,000 12/3 pawai fc
2. Kobus Tillens 17y. AMC/MRC 648,000 10/4 los albos del imperio
3. Stef Van Daele    18y. FC    511,732   9/2 Red Devils 21
4. Coos Haenraets    17y. AMR    420.000 10/3 FC RAGE UNITED
5. Tijn Mohren    17y. DC    478,066    9/3 NoMoney Club
6. Braam Zaal 18y. MR    192,499 9/4   Estudiantes La Plata
7. Guus Joncker 18y. DL    349,999   9/4 Liverpool Utd.
8. Benedictus Van Nifterick 17y. GK 240,000   7/3   Red Devils 21

Unfortunately this season Netherland did not get great talents and what I see it is more difficult to get them from best academy.Well, there is almost 400 best academy's in GKO world,things could go even worse next seasons

Because of that we should think about reserve players and train them too,even if they are not golden boys...Here is reserve list for season nr.15 but I recommand to train some of them already now:
D C    Geert Aarle    18       VV Rhoon    8/3
D C    Aloysius Meeuwissen    18       ECONOMIC F.C.    8/4
AM C    Wendelin Van Middlesworth    17       IlluminatI FC    8/3
F C    Tiede Snijders    16       TLFC    8/3
D L    Minke Dreyer    18       VV Rhoon    8/3
F C    Richard Hansen    16       VV Rhoon    8/3
DM R    Funs De Kloet    16       Blue Hawks    8/4
If those players will play games in club and train by very good coach they have a chance to be good for U21 team.You may contact their managers

Each month I will check a list and write if we have new talents.
About my talents...
Stef Van Daele has slow progres rate but he is already 6/9/2 ,I guarantee that he will play 4 games in week and will be train by great coach.He is very high on potential list (nr.9) and right now is our best option for season nr.15
Benedictus Van Nifterick is number 2 on potential list just behind great talent Theodorus Haenraets,If we start to train him right now he will be very strong for season 15.I guarantee 4 games in week in club and training by great coach.Also if You play important games I will recover condition if You ask,I will not play them day before world cup selection to prevent injured player on your national squad.
For resreve on GK position for season 15 You can use Bas Albronda 18 อ่อนแก้ว คลับ 7/4 this player will be ready for sure but Benedictus Van Nifterick will be better player maybe even much better and playing in our top level give You certainty taht will be not overload in case match against team from club owner country

and of course is always more comfortable when You have two good players for each position.
PS.
I highly recommand to use all substitutions for minimum 30 minutes on pitch that will give to 14 players training,and to prevent injures set tackling for easy.If You have any question or need extra selection always welcome

Wish You a lot of fun and success !!!

Red · « **Reply #8 on:** September 26, 2014, 08:04:32 PM »

Uncle google is not a perfect tool

...English should be clear enough.
Here's World Club ranking of GKO
http://www.gokickoff.com/comp_wcc.php (bookmark league ranking)
First eleven best national teams and many more are working with youth players in each friendly game.Therefore they don't select players over the age of 20 ... Those national teams are busy with training the most talented players.It is clear that many clubs benefit from good work of their national team managers.I think the ambitions of Netherland National Team an clubs should be the same as Top teams.
Unfortunately It looks like our U21 team (manager) is not working on that.In short words our most prospect and talented players under age 21 do not play/practice in U21 friendly games. In selection of U21 national team we can find 21year old players (total 13) with no future for our first team and U21 qualifications in the next season.Working with youngsters according that system now for Netherland is even more important.Why?
Our first team is very strong because many users from other country's did promote extra players to academy and they chose Netherland players, but they will not do that so often anymore.Speaking directly I expect decrease about 90% If we don't build up few best academy and we will not help our best talents to strengthen our National and club teams this consequences coming next sooner or later:
1.Our national teams have no chance to fight against the best teams.
2.In the coming seasons disparity will increase.
3.Clubs from our top level without support with training and promotion best Netherland youth players will be weaker than others so cooperating .Personally in this situation if I will spend 300.000 G's for extra player from academy I will serach for future star in Madagacar (example).
4. Teams from our league (excluding VV Rhoon) which will play in Club World Cup will be not strong enough for promotion to the world champions league.That means in coming seasons, we will not get 3rd spot in Club World Cup but we can even lose one (many teams behind in ranking are working with young players similar as top teams).
Well, for me it is clear that for now there is no future,I just lose my time and enthusiasm in this forum topic.

Anyway wish success to our National Teams on this road to nowhere.

papsarmy · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2014, 08:44:56 PM »

...we need more managers... we need more active managers...

$:-\$

Red · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2014, 11:40:00 PM »

Quote from: papsarmy on September 28, 2014, 08:44:56 PM

...we need more managers... we need more active managers... $:-\$

New active managres are always welcome !!!
1.There will be less bot teams.
2.More competitions and fun.
3.We will keep our league and cup prizes on highest level and we will able to select our national managers (if number of active managers will cut below some level we can lose those
privileges

)

What do we need to improve our quality level?
The answer is obvious...we have to learn from best managers in this game

Let's take a look on number one and two in world ranking.
1.Poland - 2 times club world champion (Kabacki,Dynamit) 1time U21 national champion number of users 145...
2.Argentina - 1time club world champion (Club Atlético Talleres) 2 times national U21 world champion,2 times national world champion number of users 209...
Number of active users is for sure less than we can see,In fact even 10-20 users with best academy can build up very strong National Team's which also create high level of domestic club competitions.How they work than ?
1.They respect each other and share knowledge,they help even to competitor to beat opponent in World Club League.
2.When play for nothing in league they never use MOTS against teams which are fighting for 1st 2nd place and same against team's which fighting for avoiding degradation.They do agreements to not use MOTS in the league at all...Mostly they save them for world club cup or domestic cup.
3.National Team managers always promote and help to develop biggest talents even if that players come from their main rival.They use all national friendly games in u21 and first team to train those players and incrase experience,they set easy tackling to be sure talented boys can stay alive

,when they have wonderkid they do even more...because playing in first team added for a players better training and more experience, wonder kids are playing also in qualification games against weak opponents or when they play for nothing.At the end from current ability 3 they have a superstar and each qualification's strong team's.
There is more interesting points,however think about first three here...

PS.To be honest with You...If You just start this game it is not easy choosing the best way of development,it is much more difficult to get future star even from best academy (another point why we should help to our juniors every season),it is more easy to buy solid junior's (still no superstars but after good training solid fundament) for low price.Think about that

For example I decide to build up best academy as fast as I can but this season many teams did get trash sort of players what means next seasons with more best academy's in GKO world will be even worse,in same time I found many PA7 with PR3-4 players for about 200k,so I change my plans and now I have complate first eleven filled with juniors without adaptation ,perhaps I finish on relegation group but I need about three seasons to train those players (they play every single game)After that I will be back much stronger and ready to...trade and buy bigger talents.

I hope in season number 20 be The boss of very strong team with great facilitys and money for wages

Don't be too worry about our National Teams or talents,there is many great teams without support from National bot managers.I'm already looking for a country where national managers will be very happy to see oportunity for new wonder kid when I decide to spend extra 300,000G's and select that country for new players on my academy...And if I get some Netherland future star from regular pick I can always sell that player and buy even better one

Papsarmy I see You are involved to this game ! That's great !!! Hope You stay with us. Welkom en veel succes !!!

And at the end - I will always support ANYONE who will work with respect to others and help to build up strong Top level and National Team's.All of You already have my vote.

Red · « **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2014, 08:19:18 PM »

Just few words from...Malta
"i began with young players who had very good LIMITED ABILITY 8,9 or 10, and i helped them reaching them. i played them even when they were CA4/5. from the begining I always stated with my MALTESE friends that we need time and after 4 seasons or 6 seasons may be we would have a good strong team.
I focused on a group of players, and finally we succeded."
http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=19298.msg130860;topicseen#new

Gobinho · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2014, 04:55:58 PM »

good job Malta

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