Author Topic: no improvement (Read 5423 times)

mob1984 · « **on:** January 03, 2014, 08:30:52 AM »

I have a gk with a la 7 and ca 6 but he no get any benifets from training why

Kr10s · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2014, 08:38:10 AM »

Because that's normal, GK stop getting training improvement when CA reaches 5.4, something similar happens with outfield players (they stops at CA7).

Your keeper will have normal improvement in matches, but he won't improve in daily training anymore.

mob1984 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2014, 10:50:56 AM »

Thanks

JoseMou · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2014, 07:15:20 PM »

I think they stop training at 5.x, my GK stop training at CA 5.8

Kr10s · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2014, 07:35:48 PM »

@JoseMou, i think we are both wrong, maybe it's outdated info (i wouldn't be surprised) but:

Quote from: admin on November 01, 2011, 07:58:56 PM

When the 'current ability' of a player reaches his 'limited ability' or current ability >= 7, training has no effect in improvement. Only Appearances in matches help him improve his skills.

For a goalkeeper, it is 5.5. We'll update the manual.

JoseMou · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2014, 10:08:29 PM »

Quote from: CarlosT on January 13, 2014, 07:35:48 PM

@JoseMou, i think we are both wrong, maybe it's outdated info (i wouldn't be surprised) but:

Quote from: admin on November 01, 2011, 07:58:56 PM
When the 'current ability' of a player reaches his 'limited ability' or current ability >= 7, training has no effect in improvement. Only Appearances in matches help him improve his skills.

For a goalkeeper, it is 5.5. We'll update the manual.

Maybe is outdated, I'm sure now he is CA 5.8(by EV). I'm sure after he jump 3 times will be CA 6
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=6642264
today was his last training:
http://prikachi.com/images/625/6952625r.jpg
and today I see scout report(yesterday he predicted CA 7 next season):
http://prikachi.com/images/639/6952639N.jpg

But he still improving from training:
http://prikachi.com/images/871/6952871l.jpg $:-\$

Ruta · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2014, 07:27:08 AM »

Quote from: โจโฉ on January 14, 2014, 06:41:02 AM

Player stop at CA=7.077
GK stop at CA=5.866

There are many secrets in GKO

It is funny that again and again someone gives answers without large case study. One ore even few examples is not enough to say something with 100% sure. I remember in Hattrick community to say something for sure made a hundreds examples and them soothing was known for sure:)
But for me what the difference is 5,4 or 5,866 and 7 or 7,077?

Kr10s · « **Reply #7 on:** January 14, 2014, 08:25:42 PM »

Well, i am farming a LA8 keeper and he be CA 5.866 soon.
I would apreciate any info about remaining skill points until CA6 and CA7, to allocate remaining skills properly, somebody did those calculations and wants to share his knowledge?

Kr10s · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2014, 01:34:37 AM »

Quote from: โจโฉ on January 15, 2014, 01:17:52 AM

ca5 > 6 =15 points (GK stop at 13 ; 13/15=0.866)
ca6 > 7 =12 points
ca7 > 8 =13 points (player stop at 1 ; 1/13=0.077)

Thanks, A LOT!

I will focus in pos/dec/jum now, they are around 10 so i will improve those skill points at 1 point =1 skill rate

Kr10s · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2014, 03:24:47 AM »

Quote from: โจโฉ on January 15, 2014, 03:23:11 AM

Quote from: CarlosT on January 15, 2014, 01:34:37 AM

Thanks, A LOT!

I will focus in pos/dec/jum now, they are around 10 so i will improve those skill points at 1 point =1 skill rate
yes , but skill13+
not 1point = 1skill rate

I think you already know

Yes, i do. I will improve positioning (currently 11), jumping (11) and decicions (13), they can increase up to 15 at normal rate, right?

Kr10s · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2014, 10:30:48 AM »

Quote from: โจโฉ on January 15, 2014, 05:23:02 AM

player skill
skill 6-13 (1skill = 1point)
skill 13.01-15 (1skill = 1.5points)

But isn't that rule is for GK skills? Decisions, Jumping and Positioning are outfield skills, as far as i know they behave different

skill 6-15 (1skill = 1point)
skill 15.01-17 (1skill = 1.5points)

Am i wrong?

Ruta · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2014, 10:41:07 AM »

Quote from: CarlosT on January 15, 2014, 10:30:48 AM

Quote from: โจโฉ on January 15, 2014, 05:23:02 AM
player skill
skill 6-13 (1skill = 1point)
skill 13.01-15 (1skill = 1.5points)

But isn't that rule is for GK skills? Decisions, Jumping and Positioning are outfield skills, as far as i know they behave different

skill 6-15 (1skill = 1point)
skill 15.01-17 (1skill = 1.5points)

Am i wrong?

and what about mental skills? In Poland Elcura made some study and can't find the way with mental skills.

JoseMou · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2014, 10:52:45 AM »

Quote from: Ruta on January 15, 2014, 10:41:07 AM

Quote from: CarlosT on January 15, 2014, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: โจโฉ on January 15, 2014, 05:23:02 AM
player skill
skill 6-13 (1skill = 1point)
skill 13.01-15 (1skill = 1.5points)

But isn't that rule is for GK skills? Decisions, Jumping and Positioning are outfield skills, as far as i know they behave different

skill 6-15 (1skill = 1point)
skill 15.01-17 (1skill = 1.5points)

Am i wrong?
and what about mental skills? In Poland Elcura made some study and can't find the way with mental skills.

For my GK I saw: When he training Handling/Reflex/Positioning/One on ones his value increase 2-3 times(0.13-0.2 CA or 1 level) for 1 skill point. When he training jumping his value increase 1 time for 1 skill point.

When players training mental their value/CA/levels not increase. Only skill points for Aggression, Determination, Influence.

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Author Topic: no improvement (Read 5423 times)