Youth camp proposition, read and replay, THANKS!

[xerexy]

YOUTH CAMP SUGESTION!

I believe that change in youth camp is absolutely must happen because:

- at start of youth camps there were lack of information about status, investments, quality of players etc. so there is some managers that have invested small amount of money like 500 000 and got LA9 players (admin say that was bug), but some have invested last season large amounts of money like 5 million into 3 camps and got only LA 5 player max, this damage is done and can not be fixed but I believe that I found way how to mitigate that.

- after that situation is like this any investment in “small” nations is throwing of money so anyone who want best players will invest in large nations, rest will quit youth camps and then that idea of youth camps is good as dead.

- there are some nations that will get all god players because of large cumulative investment in those countries, in future that will lead to disproportion and world cup or any national competition will be heavily ruined.

Conclusion is youth camps will 99% be changed in near future or even destroyed as failed experiment now I have one proposition in which everyone will be satisfied.

PROPOSITION FOR YOUTH CAMP

Solution is in one other manager game (in this case basketball manager game called Charazay), their youth system is by my opinion perfect solution for youth camps in this game, but need to be slightly modified.

- How it works

You have a TIMELINE which represent quality of youth camp in that moment. We have in GKO this season that has 1st game 21.08 and last one is 30.11 this year that makes cca 100 days + preseason  and post season another cca 19 day, that makes 119 day and it is 17 true weeks for one season!

So now it should be offered to players to invest money, every one can determine how much to invest, MIN, MED OR MAX! No other amounts allowed!

35 000    – minimum
90 000    – medium
175 000    – maximum

Time line start from 0 when opened, and with investment it increase, should be like this:

Accumulate investment:

0-250 000 WERY BAD – this means players offered are equal as players from WERY BAD academy
250 000 – 750 000  BAD – this means offered players are same as players in BAD ACADEMY
750 000 – 1 200 000 OK – same players offered as in OK ACADEMY
1 200 000 – 2 200 000 GOOD – same players offered as in GOOD ACADEMY
2 200 000 – 3 000 000 VERY GOOD – same players offered as in VERY GOOD ACADEMY
When time line hits END LINE investment is max (so now you can mimise your investment as timeline can not go further but still need minimum investment for maintenance ) THE BEST status reached and now you are offered players as from THE BEST ACADEMY.

SO IN PRACTICE every week you have one player from camp that is offered to your team and you can decide to promote him ore decline, if you decide to PROMOTE time line reset to the 0 and you start with investment from start, if you decline you continue with camp and next week will get new player to chose.

CORRECTION:

Only one more small change need to be done to start with this way of youth camps, if someone have already invested 1 million in that camp and did not receive player LA 8 or better then that investment should be included and he will not start from 0 very bad camp but from bad with time line on investment 1 million, if someone have invested 2 million in single youth camp and did not revive LA8 or blether player he will start that camp from good level and 2 million on time line.

So basic all who has received players LA8 and bether start from 0, and those who didn't start from amount of money they invested already, this is not 100% fair to all but close enough I believe!

CONCLUSION!

- youth camps will certainty need to be changed
- people are damaged because of lack of information, bugs, bad organization of camps
- camp should be same for all countries so that everyone have chance to compete In future

With this solution all 3 things are repairable :

- new system of camps for all same rules and clear and transparent approach
- with that correction made will at least make things better  for players who didn't get to much info and rules from admin and game master, it should satisfy the most to continue to play this game rather than quit, and I believe it is fair one!
- all nations will have same chance to be invested so there will not be any dis-balance in national teams
- and most important it is not concurrent to ACADEMY as you can get 1 good player per season and  money and time need to be invested

I believe with this way all (or at least major) players will be satisfied because from academy with investment of 3 million you have chance to get player As from THE BEST ACADEMY but let's look how much time will that take:

EXAMPLE:

Each week you invest max amount 175 000 that means to reach THE BEST LVL you need to
invest:

17*175 000 =  2 975 000
1* 35 000 =          35 000
                         3 010 000










So 18 true weeks of investment In that journey you will be offered EVERY week one!

1 players same quality as from very bad ACADEMY
3 players same quality as from bad ACADEMY
2 players same quality as from OK ACADEMY
6 players same quality as from good ACADEMY
5 players same quality as from very good ACADEMY

This is made as bad and OK academy players are useful so to reach some “standard” level you need to invest at least 1 050 000 to get good choices, and then you have chance to get regular players, so that's why there is most of those, and then very good because now you have invested over 2 mil and you deserve good player, ofc over 3 mil and full season you should get your potential star player

week 1 from 0 to 175k – very bad
week 2 from 175k to 350k – bad
week 3 from 350k – 525 – bad
week 4 from 525k – 700k- bad
week 5 from 700k – 875k – OK
week 6 from 875k – 1050k – OK
week 7 from 1050k – 1225k – good   
week 8 from 1225k – 1400k – good
week 9 from 1400k – 1575k – good
week 10 from 1575k – 1750k – good
week 11 from 1750k – 1925k – good
week 12 from 1925k – 2100k – good
week 13 from 2100k – 2275k – very good
week 14 from 2275k – 2450k – very good
week 15 from 2450k – 2625k – very good
week 16 from 2625k – 2800k – very good
week 17 from 2800k – 2975k – very good
week 18 from 2975k – 3000k MAX – THE BEST

IF YOU GET PLAYER AT ANY STAGE THAT SATISFIY YOU AND DECIDE TO PROMOTE EXCELENT BUT THEN YOU START FROM START AT 0!

after this no investment take influence but minimum must be for maintenance so 35 000

lets say first player from the best you refused didn't satisfied with years, PR …...

week 19 investment 35 000 THE BEST player offered you refuse again
….................... UNTIL YOU PROMOTE got one you are delighted and now TIMELINE RESET and you start from 0

This is my humble proposition for game master and admin, to preserve players in this game, to try to get new one managers and make this game bether, thanks!

p.s
if I have something misjudged or wrong calculated or my language is not understandable please take my apologies, my intention is I believe clear here!

[Andy]

I like it - nice !   

In my opinion once you get to the "Best" status, I think you should need to carry on investing 175,000 each week or even more, otherwise its is too easy to hang for a LA10+.

Good idea it would great if they chose to go with a version of this model but too me honest I hve never really understood what they were trying to achieve with this versio, other than as a deflationary measure.

[Kr10s]

It seems fair considering that high investment should give better players worth the investment done, but what about lower division teams? It's a lot easier to invest 3M if you are in top level than if you are in D level or lower

If those min values should depend on wich division you're playing, i would say that its great.

Maybe 1.5M for D level teams or lower should be enough to receive the best academy players, what do you think?

[xerexy]

It seems fair considering that high investment should give better players worth the investment done, but what about lower division teams? It's a lot easier to invest 3M if you are in top level than if you are in D level or lower

If those min values should depend on wich division you're playing, i would say that its great.

Maybe 1.5M for D level teams or lower should be enough to receive the best academy players, what do you think?

They can invest lover amounts go comulative 1 200 000 and then CAN PROMOTE player same as  they have GOOD academy in that position, in any time you promote your calculation start from 0, so in theory small team can invest 1 200 000 and from good academy got LA 7 player I saw even La8 player from good academy so luck is alaways need and random is present

Advantage is they can refuse positions they do not need and keep level good with low investment untill finaly that position come, etc. etc. this system offers diferent aproaches !

[xerexy]

I like it - nice !   

In my opinion once you get to the "Best" status, I think you should need to carry on investing 175,000 each week or even more, otherwise its is too easy to hang for a LA10+.

Good idea it would great if they chose to go with a version of this model but too me honest I hve never really understood what they were trying to achieve with this versio, other than as a deflationary measure.

Andy someone has just invested 3 mil and now every week maintainence he can have bad luck and wait 6-7 weekas aditionaly because even if it is BEST it is random or even get LA9 or La8 player with good PR and position he needs now he can gamble go further or promote one he needs if promote then he start from 0 again, it is not easy because of random:)

[Kr10s]

It seems fair considering that high investment should give better players worth the investment done, but what about lower division teams? It's a lot easier to invest 3M if you are in top level than if you are in D level or lower

If those min values should depend on wich division you're playing, i would say that its great.

Maybe 1.5M for D level teams or lower should be enough to receive the best academy players, what do you think?

They can invest lover amounts go comulative 1 200 000 and then CAN PROMOTE player same as  they have GOOD academy in that position, in any time you promote your calculation start from 0, so in theory small team can invest 1 200 000 and from good academy got LA 7 player I saw even La8 player from good academy so luck is alaways need and random is present

Advantage is they can refuse positions they do not need and keep level good with low investment untill finaly that position come, etc. etc. this system offers diferent aproaches !

Yes, i understand what you meant, but with this change you would only increase the chances to receive quality players in smaller countries, i am far more concerned on equal oportunities, i mean, i could promote 3 players in the same time that a small club could pull 1, that would only increase the gap between high division teams than those who plays in lower divisions.

[Andy]

Andy someone has just invested 3 mil and now every week maintainence he can have bad luck and wait 6-7 weekas aditionaly because even if it is BEST it is random or even get LA9 or La8 player with good PR and position he needs now he can gamble go further or promote one he needs if promote then he start from 0 again, it is not easy because of random:)

Sure, well I think its a great idea Mate,  I am only debating a detail with you

I guess you are thinking: someone invests £3m, they get a offered a random player and its say a LA6,  so of course he lets it go. But I am thinking if its cheap to stay at the table then he will also refuse a LA9 player and even an LA10 if its in the wrong position or he wants to wait for even better. My point is that he should have the right to do this, but it should cost him.

Although the players generated are random, the ability to stay at the table means you would be  guarenteed a great player, it just depends how long you have to wait. This makes your suggestion way more benificial than the current youth camps (which is your point of course) but also more powerful than a Best academy - which has no gaurentees.

[Drifter]

  This might solve some problems but I think it might create a few more. Unless there is some kind of random factor involved, what is to stop managers from just buying youth camp players that will be guaranteed to be at a certain level. At that point, what happens to the transfer market when people are no longer willing to invest there because its better to just put your money into something that will guarantee a limited 8 player. I am against anything that guarantees success. This idea seems a sure-fire way to buy success. I also disagree with the idea that you can pay to promote players.
Everyone seems so concerned about fairness in some circumstances but it seems totally a foreign idea when it comes to other things. If you make the access to players outside the market a situation where you can just pay, I think that has a detrimental effect on the game as well as creates notable inequalities in teams.

[Kr10s]

Actually, Xerexy's suggestion doesn't guarantee success just paying, it only makes that money invested brings chances to get quality players outside Argentina, Spain, Germany, Brazil or England.
I mean, Xerexy suggest that after investing 3M you could have the chances to receive a player that you would pull using the best academy.
That said, some people pulled LA10 players with the best academy but many people didn't get talent, for instance my best player this season were a 3/8/3 (good, but not that good), but i also got a 2/5/4 and a 2/6/3. You could invest 3M and get a X/10/X or a X/5//X, seems reasonable IMO, the random factor still should be there, the only difference would be the chance to get those players outside big investment countries, that's all!

[spamrulez]

Right now the Youth Camps is, IMHO, a senseless suicide run since too many teams are spending huge amount of money in a senseless and bottomless manner.

You have 10.000.000 to invest? Well, for 10.000.000 you can buy my 17 yo FC 4/10/4 from my accademy. I had a couple of LA 10 in these last 2 seasons. I am the one who sold a player for the largest amount of money in the whole game.

[xerexy]

This might solve some problems but I think it might create a few more. Unless there is some kind of random factor involved, what is to stop managers from just buying youth camp players that will be guaranteed to be at a certain level. At that point, what happens to the transfer market when people are no longer willing to invest there because its better to just put your money into something that will guarantee a limited 8 player. I am against anything that guarantees success. This idea seems a sure-fire way to buy success. I also disagree with the idea that you can pay to promote players.
Everyone seems so concerned about fairness in some circumstances but it seems totally a foreign idea when it comes to other things. If you make the access to players outside the market a situation where you can just pay, I think that has a detrimental effect on the game as well as creates notable inequalities in teams.

Now read again all post it say THEY WILL HAVE CHANCE TO PROMOTE PLAYER SAME AS XY ACADEMY OFC IT IS RANDOM!

[xerexy]

Please read all post it is random there is no place that say guarantee player, there is GAP in this game carlos already huge one only thing is how can smal teams get player they can invest in academy, they can invest in camps and they can buy player, academy is only last upgrade 10 mil but last forever, to buy LA9 player you can do that for 3 milion sure, so camp is to give one more dimension how to obitain player, big clubs have 11 great players someone who start game do not have neither, so every good player small team obitain reduces diference AS there is only 11 players on field, so gap is already here this will not extend it not will completly reduce it but will help!

[Drifter]

I disagree.  In my opinion, it only widens the gap. The people with the most access with the least negative effects from the costs spent in the youth camps to have the chance of a potentially good player are those players who have nothing more to do with their cash. It think the gap widens when smaller teams spend their money in the youth camp when they could be using that money to improve the quality of their club and its facilities. Lets all remember that all money spent in the youth camps is lost after a few seasons. You have nothing to show for that investment except a player who you didn't have any say in joining the team. That player might not play how your team plays, be of a very low level or have no potential at all. In this case, you have rolled the dice and set your team back a few seasons with nothing to show for it. You can't augment that cash loss in the market cause most smaller teams don't turn over that much.
Its a fools hope. A gamblers chance. Not the kind of thing teams should be spending their rent money on. I think that time in the market and time spent improving the quality of your facilities is a far better way to go about things. Small clubs don't be fooled by a fools chance. Let the big clubs waste their money in the camps while you plug away and improve your clubs.
I think it is far better to be frugal in the market, research your buys, try to buy as low as you can and train your players well. Its a longer road and success is not guaranteed, but in the long run, even though it takes longer, you will keep everything you have worked for. Eventually, your academies will kick out good players and you will only be paying maintenance at that point.  You can make good buys in the market and keep your budget as low as possible. Avoid vanity shopping and buy what you need. Those who excel at this will be successful. Success comes to those with vision and a long term plan. That has been my experience with those managers I consider are successful. In the long run, its not about players at all. Its about how you use them and run the club that supports them.

[Kr10s]

If you want to get rid of inflaction, you should remove youth camps actually. This game's biggest problem is that people receive too many new players each season, every single online manager with controlled finances grants only few new players each season, GKO has inflaction coming when added weekly wage in discussion and then increased the new youth per season, from 8 (up to 15, using token only, with only few teams pulling extra youth) to 7 (up to 16, using camps), allowing reselling again only increased the problem, let's face it, the demand is low and the offer is huge.

That said, if you want to remain youth camps, each team's posibilities should be granted to not increase the current gap.

I firmly believe that Xerexy's proposal might be really good only if it consider each team's capacity to generate income:

Any top level team can easily generate 2.400.000G (15 league matches, 20.000 seats at very bad stadium level), a D level team should get 840k (7.000 seats, 15 league matches, very bad stadium).
Clearly, if new teams want to invest in camps, they can't compete with bigger teams unless their potential incomes would be considered.

That said, the 3M barrier that xerexy suggested seems okay to me, but lower division teams should require less money to obtain same results than top level teams (maybe 1M or something like that), with a schem like that big and small teams should compete in camps under similar circumstances.

Today i received another report about my academy players, i have 1 more player left to pull, there's a DC 3-4/5-5/3-3 and an AML 3-3/5-6/3-4, those are "the best" academy players too, under xerexy's suggestion i could run in the "youth camp dice" and get one of these too, so big teams would also be risking money on it, the only difference would favor lower division teams: they might invest 1M to get a 3/5/3 player at worst, a big team would invest 3M to get a 3/5/3, who do you think that lost more? Not to menction that if that lower division team pull a really high LA player, they could easily get millions for that player, alowing him to grow faster than usual!

I am aware that lower division teams needs to improve facilities, but i am also aware that they don't need great players to win matches, they can get incomes in market, far easier than a team playing a competitive league: you can beat bot teams using CA2/CA3 players, but having CA5 players, you can easily be relegated in an active league, not to menction that older teams had far more problems to improve facilities than new teams (lower % selling, lower prices as general, less potential buyers), even if some people didn't realized, improving facilities is a lot easier now, those who experienced the game from the beggining knows that getting 1M for a player was impossible in season 2 or 3, now it's quite possible.

[xerexy]

I agree with everithing you guys say, but facts are:

- gap is here and is created in first few season of game when first people get the best academies, then they could get 15 players per year in 2 years 20 youths amazing, and secon those youths had enourmous PR like 4-5 was regular and 6-7 came, that was 1st step of unbalance and by my calculation diference between PR 4 nd PR 6 player in finish of traning is HUGE if we talk about LA 8 or more players. afetr that new seasonc come and new players got the best but hm problem is PR is much lower and PR 5 is in last 2 seasons RARE.

Le's notice one thing if player is ca 2 LA 9 PR 3 (that is my best pol) and CA 3 LA9 Pr 6 those was back then regular, in traning PR 3 needs to come to LA9 cca 4 season min even more, and PR 6 cen do it allmost in 2 seasons something more, EXP is problem if traning time of player is lower he will get less exp and you will be able tot rain him more abilities than a player who need 4-5 seasons as his exp will influence in his abilities, I know that I have trained 9 of 11 my players from start!

Second is HOW GAP IS BIGER AND BIGER simple teams with money and BEST academy will do this,

got 7 player on start in academy then pay 900 000 for 3 more first week, then 900 000 for 3 more second week, and then again for 3 000 000 he can pay for 10 ADITIONAL PLAYERS ?!?!?!? and now have pool of 7 + 10 = 17 players to chose and he will wait to see what are the best GAP IS HUGE BACAUSE OF THAT in this game btw, in CAMP by my proposal he can get 1 good player for 3 000 000 investment and it is gamble, so CAMP proposal is closing that gap a bit, not extenden it, ofc it is not final conclusion as that is proposition for CAMP not for money in the game it will resolve nations problem and problem people who are damaged because lack of info, I firmly belive that you can not resolve money problem with CAMP.

[GregoryUnubs]

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