Author Topic: PAY FOR WIN IS FINALLY COMING..... (Read 9864 times)

Ruta · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2013, 02:54:27 PM »

Carlos I don't know if you don't see this problem or just don't want to see. I can find many egzamples when loan players is goos for club which get them. I can also find some ver evil things connected woth this issue. More evil when real money are in use !

Kr10s · « **Reply #26 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:08:07 PM »

Quote from: Ruta

I can find many egzamples when loan players is goos for club which get them.

Could you please tell me what is the problem? If those teams eventually buy previously loaned players, they must pay them with G in an open auction, honestly, i don't see that as a problem unless the buyer could turn token into G, please explain me the problem.

Ruta · « **Reply #27 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:23:06 PM »

Quote from: CarlosT on August 22, 2013, 01:43:41 PM

In the way i look at it, many STUPID people is paying to farm somebody else's player, those players must return to former teams next season, who do you guys think will be the real winner?

I am trying to say that there are adventages for teams who get loan player. They can win something or just avoid relegation.This situations means that they get money becuase of league price , match ticket ( higher legue more attedance) and rating grow . I am sure you know what I mean. They have buy time to develop own youth or just to collect money for player thay needs.

Quote from: CarlosT on August 22, 2013, 03:08:07 PM

i don't see that as a problem unless the buyer could turn token into G, please explain me the problem.

There is some ways to transform tokens into G , I know that you know it , too. Some examples: change youth in academy for tokens instead of 300 k G, do Fittness recovery program with credts ( 1 token =3 credits) instead of energy which can be use to get G from Club activity.

PS, I hate loans cause this is the easiest way to help friend to reach his goals!!! As I said it many times, this is personal game not a gruop action!

Kr10s · « **Reply #28 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:31:29 PM »

Quote from: Ruta on August 22, 2013, 03:23:06 PM

I am trying to say that there are adventages for teams who get loan player. They can win something or just avoid relegation.This situations means that they get money becuase of league price , match ticket ( higher legue more attedance) and rating grow . I am sure you know what I mean. They have buy time to develop own youth or just to collect money for player thay needs.

Yes, that's why i say that ALL users should have the chance to receive something in loan.

Quote from: Ruta

There is some ways to transform tokens into G , I know that you know it , too. Some examples: change youth in academy for tokens instead of 300 k G, do Fittness recovery program with credts ( 1 token =3 credits) insted od energe which can be use for get G from Club activity.

You can get NORMAL players with that method too, loan is not the problem, the whole system is the problem.

I would be REALLY pleased if people would be unable to convert token into credits, but let's be honest, that won't happen... we have no choice but to wait that no more "token or credit" features appears. You can get quality players in loan only though token? I think that users should be to do that critic, if nobody would pay, those request would dissapear, but some users have even less pride than the developers.

Ruta · « **Reply #29 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:35:27 PM »

Quote from: CarlosT on August 22, 2013, 03:31:29 PM

You can get NORMAL players with that method too, loan is not the problem, the whole system is the problem.

But when you buy player there is an auction, method is bad but ist still ana auction. A buyer have to pay the most combined wage and G if want to buy. At loans all is happene beside the scene. Someone give tokens , somoene get. This is corruption system, I can siad eveil system which learn people to cheat!

Drahcir · « **Reply #30 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:54:27 PM »

Personal opinion: f*** token loans!

Makes the game unfair and should be removed.

Kr10s · « **Reply #31 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:56:34 PM »

I do understand your point, and you are right somehow, however i wouldn't send a player to an unknown team, maybe there should be an auction between more than 3 teams involved, previously authorized by owner or something, i do understand that you wan to avoid direct help, but my point is that player owner has some right on his players, and he should make use of them too.

Quote from: Ruta on August 22, 2013, 03:35:27 PM

Someone give tokens , somoene get. This is corruption system, I can siad eveil system which learn people to cheat!

The loan system is 4 seasons old, now, suddenly is it evil? Now it's evil because people can't get quality players for free, is that developer's fault or is it users fault? If users would be honest, trying to get everything without using their pocket and it wouldn't be others desperate looking for token, we wouldn't be discussing this.

Quote from: Drahcir on August 22, 2013, 03:54:27 PM

Personal opinion: f*** token loans!

QFT

Ruta · « **Reply #32 on:** August 22, 2013, 04:09:46 PM »

Carlos, I always had doubts about loans, I dont liked it. Now I think that loans are almost as evil as tokens

I hate it now

johnblasa · « **Reply #33 on:** August 22, 2013, 05:11:15 PM »

Quote from: LieCheatNsteal on August 22, 2013, 11:05:28 AM

so why u didnt win? contradiction much？ at least i m not winning

You are sarcastic?? Provocateur?? Or maybe crazy?? ... I wish that U don't speak about me... I play from the first season you should know this isn't a personal speech but the confirm that the way of this game after token introduction becamed PFW...Seems that the developers put in field all the piecies ready to this moment, Tokens, 3 loan.... Is the same old problem only $$$ fixtures, more important then game fixtures ... I'm just here to play and have fun as you do, in your sentence if there was something malicious towards me, find me sad, do not know me so well as to give certain opinions!