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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2013, 11:33:34 PM »
How do upsets happen in the RW? This season, how did Celtic beat Barcelona in the UCL group stage? How did Blackburn and Bradford City both beat Arsenal in cup matches?  How did Macclesfield Town beat Cardiff City?

There is no simple answer to this, but there are usually two reasons:
1) The stronger side played without (most of) its first XI
2) The weaker side "parked the bus", used counter attack, and got lucky

The way I see it, GKO has ALL of these tactical options without mots. I have seen top quality clubs in GKO unable to score a goal against a much weaker side even without a mots. How do they do it? See no. 2 above. We have these tactical settings, and don't need mots. I see no reason to keep mots in the game.


1) Managers could be allowed to choose a tactic called "counter-MOTS". This means a team can react to an oppoasition playing a MOTs by playing  their own MOTS. This could be automatic or the game engine could test the captains ability i.e. a captian with high influence has more chance of getting the team to react than a captain with low influence.

I made a similar suggestion a while ago, the possibility to play a MotS at halftime based on the scoreline like a regular tactical change managers could use when facing an opponent who might be using a MotS. Of course, admin never weighed in on the subject...
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« Last Edit: March 17, 2013, 05:09:58 AM by Brian Clough »
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2013, 05:18:06 AM »
This vote is meaningless.
The mots is for the weak teams a chance.
Otherwise,Champions always several teams,the world needs to uncertainty.
And,GKO is fair,each team has two mots,How and When to use depends on your own.
So,keep mots.
By the way,this world is not absolutely fair.



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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #52 on: March 08, 2013, 10:18:30 AM »
We have been complaining about stuff that increase the gap between clubs.
This is one way to counter that gap. Keep it.

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2013, 04:41:41 PM »
Let's make the game so that the team with the highest overall value wins!

Keep the darn MoTS even though they've cost me alot over the seasons. 8)

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2013, 06:58:58 PM »
I kinda like mots, it has screweed my season though. but weak teams already has a chance to beat strong teams. its not that rare when weak team wins 0:1 by having 1 shot against 15

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2013, 07:32:43 PM »
its not that rare when weak team wins 0:1 by having 1 shot against 15

It can happen with or without MotS.

Do you know how argentinian managers call MotS? We call it "Dopping", and honestly i don't see many differences, except the "legal" stuff. But in escense using MosT is like injecting something in your player's body to maximize their performance in a short period.
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2013, 07:41:37 PM »
We have been complaining about stuff that increase the gap between clubs.
This is one way to counter that gap. Keep it.

Therefore restricting it to league is the best solution, a new team's objective for the first 2 seasons is only the league anyway.
Though if it gets restricted another issue will pop up, everyone will start using it vs the top 3 teams. Its gonna be hella fun.

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2013, 09:32:42 PM »
MotS is special one.
You can used once  per seasons.

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2013, 10:25:17 PM »
seefish 1+ :)

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #59 on: March 08, 2013, 10:27:20 PM »
The current MotS system is great, It don't seem to find anything wrong within.  ;)

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #60 on: March 08, 2013, 10:53:05 PM »
The current MotS system is great, It don't seem to find anything wrong within.  ;)

Words coming from a D level team, playing in a league filled with bots, it would be nice to read your opinion when you have SOMETHING to lose  :)
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2013, 12:42:51 AM »
finaly, those who want to keep mots for have a chance for defeat strong teams are simply weak teams, build strong squads and defeat stronger users, mots modify normal development of the competition and this is the last time (I have said it hundreds times) that I say this in this game.

if gko doesn't remove mots is because they don't want to remove it, they know perfectly that gko community is demanding them to remove mots since november 1st, 2010.
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2013, 07:39:38 AM »
So I think I may have phrased this poll less than optimally. :-[
 What if it was a bit different:

How would you feel about changes to the GKO mots system?
1) Keep mots exactly the same. I would not support any changes made to the current system.
2) Keep mots as they are now but remove them from WCL competitions. Perhaps teams entered in WCL could receive a single, separate "WCL mots" for that competition.
3) Keep mots ONLY with steep secondary effects, e.g. extra condition loss, negation of effects on opponent player morale, reduction of effect (especially on GK)
4) Keep mots only with no. 3 (above) AND if removed from WCL
5) Remove mots under any and all circumstances. Reforms cannot fix this system.

I think these options would yield better information, if admin is watching, that is...  ::)
Anyway, should I reset the poll with these options instead?
let me know what you think, please
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2013, 09:40:37 AM »
I think that changing the poll again would be.... how can i say it? Unproper? I would keep the current poll....

If i would need to vote again, i would pick option 4
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2013, 09:46:36 AM »
With those options I would have been forced to vote to 2, 3 and 4. As all those are fine and dandy. :)

With a gun to my head: 2.

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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #65 on: March 09, 2013, 03:17:18 PM »
Good job+++  :D :D
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Do you agree to remove the function of Mots?
« Reply #66 on: March 17, 2013, 01:44:34 AM »
As a small club, I think that the function of Mots makes wonder for us. Strong teams can not keep winning against weak teams even in the real football world, so I don't want to remove it.  :P

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Re: Do you agree to remove the function of Mots?
« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2013, 02:18:13 AM »
I agree with you, truman! 8) 8) 8)
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2013, 08:57:45 AM »
  ;D I think that the function of Mots  makes weak teams to go further in Cup. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: POLL: MotS?????
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2013, 08:59:07 AM »
i love Mots.
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