Unfair Cup System

[Ologga]

Admin, you told me 2 seasons ago that was our own fault that there weren’t more teams in our countries.

I gave you hundreds of webs where you can insert pub for promote your game, no pubs, no new users, … nothing. Even you are giving us pub of other football managers.

In Germany and many other countries we are still without play the cup while in other leagues the cup is already running, the most evident case is Thailand. How much money and training have managers in advantage respect us in Thailand?, I prefer don’t calculate.

However, in countries like Spain they have 3 more cup rounds and the most of the teams are now playing against bots, winning a lot of money and training. Then, I ask to give us the same number of cup rounds inserting more bot teams if it is necessary because in countries where there are more rounds, the first rounds are played against bots in almost every matches..

The same for all confederations, please.

[Kaiserz357]

Why always Thailand ? 

[Fradel Rovajar]

it's very understandable . I think better if cup qualifying in Thailand are limited by Admin IMHO. For example in Thailand Cup, the amount of  Thailand contestant team limited  from Top Level up to league- D, while in other countries that only have league A up to C will added bots team by admin.

[Brian Clough]

Perhaps GKO should limit all cup tournaments at 8-10 rounds and introduce cup qualification rounds for low level teams in large nations (like Thailand) that only give training bonuses equivalent to friendlies.... It could be set up with a similar structure to WCL qualification, after all...

In fact, all nations with more than 2 levels should probably have qualification rounds for teams in lower levels so every team gets a chance. While Thailand has more than twice as many cup rounds as (most?) other nations, many low level teams in medium-sized nations don't even get to enter their national cup. This could solve both issues at once!
 

[SoLid_frOg]

Well in less crowded country(GKO wise), people can win trophy more easily, train youth more easily, achieve higher win rate more easily.

There are both pros and cons.

[akkieth]

Cup and league in Thailand is very difficult. If teams from low league can out of Thailand to another country, it would be nice.

[taii]

  what's this about? i thought this is fair engough, in Thailand there are many leauge top league to G league how many team who can stay on top league to D league (who can get lot of income) bottom league very hard to to get a G. such as my team i'm stay in F league maximum rating is 1800 i only got tiny money from the league 110000 per league match if lucky in the another hand another country have not many league you can start to build your tream very quick, you can build or buy very good player as you want. i thought it fair enough that Thailand can play more match Cup to get a couple of G

[HanaSan]

Fewer clubs in the country  that means you can win the national cup easier than other country that have more clubs and more rounds.

You can get price 1.5M easier than others but you will get money from gate lower than others cup winner because you have fewer rounds of cup.
However , it is very difficult to win the Cup of the country that has many clubs like thailand.

"high risk high return"

[Kr10s]

Playing cup matches against bot teams is not always good: when you play in bot team's stadium you collect around 24, i get around 35 aech friendly match played home.
If the system add more teams to cup system, people won't be satisfied unless bot teams goes away always, else you would be getting extra practice, but less money, consider that too 

And i agree with thai managers, winnig thai cup is more compliated than winning german, argentinian, polish, serbian or any other cup, maintain that pace a whole season is really hard.

[Ologga]

Playing cup matches against bot teams is not always good: when you play in bot team's stadium you collect around 24, i get around 35 aech friendly match played home.
If the system add more teams to cup system, people won't be satisfied unless bot teams goes away always, else you would be getting extra practice, but less money, consider that too 

And i agree with thai managers, winnig thai cup is more compliated than winning german, argentinian, polish, serbian or any other cup, maintain that pace a whole season is really hard.

I wish German Cup would be hardest than Thai Cup, a country with a population of 82,000,000 and hardly 200 users, I didn't expect this of such big country. I wanted the hardest competitivity and I have founded a boring situation.  It seems that GKO only have interest in thai users.

[Kaiserz357]

Playing cup matches against bot teams is not always good: when you play in bot team's stadium you collect around 24, i get around 35 aech friendly match played home.
If the system add more teams to cup system, people won't be satisfied unless bot teams goes away always, else you would be getting extra practice, but less money, consider that too 

And i agree with thai managers, winnig thai cup is more compliated than winning german, argentinian, polish, serbian or any other cup, maintain that pace a whole season is really hard.

I wish German Cup would be hardest than Thai Cup, a country with a population of 82,000,000 and hardly 200 users, I didn't expect this of such big country. I wanted the hardest competitivity and I have founded a boring situation.  It seems that GKO only have interest in thai users.

You don't really want the fair completition. You just hate Thai isn't it?   

[Kr10s]

I wanted the hardest competitivity and I have founded a boring situation.  It seems that GKO only have interest in thai users.

In the way a look at it, some countries like the game, others found it boring. I mean, Germany is a country with a huge love for the game, with a solid economy and it didn't worked there.
I don't know each asiatic reality, but some countries with a decent reputation in the game (such as South Korea or Japan) are weak countries here, and China or Thailand are the strongest countries here.  When you compare them, Thailand has around 70 million people, and Japan is aroud 10 million, how can the game go so well in Thailand, and so badly in Japan? I don't find a reason...

Or maybe there is a reason: their people liked it, and they spreaded the word!

At least that's what happened in Argentina: I'm sure that if the GKO staff would like to have a very active coutry in south america, it wouldn't be Argentina.... my country has around 40 million people, and our economy is poor... when you compare it with other south american countries: Brazil (200 million people), Chile (20 million) or Colombia (47 million) have a stronger economy than us! The biggest south american community should be Brazil, but it's not like that!
Did something made the difference? Probably our user database, the people spreaded the word in other online games, we help eachother in chat room.... our community is interesting, i'm sure it should be stronger, but we don't stop growing and that's a good thing 

[Ologga]

Playing cup matches against bot teams is not always good: when you play in bot team's stadium you collect around 24, i get around 35 aech friendly match played home.
If the system add more teams to cup system, people won't be satisfied unless bot teams goes away always, else you would be getting extra practice, but less money, consider that too 

And i agree with thai managers, winnig thai cup is more compliated than winning german, argentinian, polish, serbian or any other cup, maintain that pace a whole season is really hard.

I wish German Cup would be hardest than Thai Cup, a country with a population of 82,000,000 and hardly 200 users, I didn't expect this of such big country. I wanted the hardest competitivity and I have founded a boring situation.  It seems that GKO only have interest in thai users.

You don't really want the fair completition. You just hate Thai isn't it?

Please, stop talking absurds and NEVER DEFAME ME SAYING THINGS THAT I DON'T SAY!!

I neve have been in Thailand, I don't know nothing of that country so I can't hate it. For me Thailand is like doesnt exit, no positive or negative feelings with Thailand. Do you understand or did you only want to kid me?.

[Ologga]

I wanted the hardest competitivity and I have founded a boring situation.  It seems that GKO only have interest in thai users.

In the way a look at it, some countries like the game, others found it boring. I mean, Germany is a country with a huge love for the game, with a solid economy and it didn't worked there.
I don't know each asiatic reality, but some countries with a decent reputation in the game (such as South Korea or Japan) are weak countries here, and China or Thailand are the strongest countries here.  When you compare them, Thailand has around 70 million people, and Japan is aroud 10 million, how can the game go so well in Thailand, and so badly in Japan? I don't find a reason...

Or maybe there is a reason: their people liked it, and they spreaded the word!

At least that's what happened in Argentina: I'm sure that if the GKO staff would like to have a very active coutry in south america, it wouldn't be Argentina.... my country has around 40 million people, and our economy is poor... when you compare it with other south american countries: Brazil (200 million people), Chile (20 million) or Colombia (47 million) have a stronger economy than us! The biggest south american community should be Brazil, but it's not like that!
Did something made the difference? Probably our user database, the people spreaded the word in other online games, we help eachother in chat room.... our community is interesting, i'm sure it should be stronger, but we don't stop growing and that's a good thing 

I don't know what thing with GKO's bosses, they had everything for make it the best game and first with the unfair premium accounts and now, 2 years after the game start, seeing that they don't make anything for get more users, the game goes to anywhere. this is a project that is in the beginning and need thousands of new users for get consolidation.

The only reason that I find for explain all you say is that they have only invest in pub in determinate countries, and the question is why?. who knows.

[SoLid_frOg]

I love carlost's attitude there. 

[marius.82]

yup ARGENTINA  RULES    !!! the rest of us have many things to learn from Argentinian gko comunity !!!

[Nhillier]

I would have to say the same thing. Well, I think this is all part of the game.

[chefo]

Another problem with the cup is home and away matches, for example why some people got to play 4 out of 6 matches on their home stadiums and get 2-3 times more attendance => more money while so far I've played all my games as an away team versus mostly 7000-8000 stadiums?

They should rotate imo, once home - once away so its fair for everyone..

[Kr10s]

They should rotate imo, once home - once away so its fair for everyone..

IMHO, both teams's stadium should be compared and matches should be played in the biggest one, in cup matches there's no home advantage after all, if i have a 20.000 seats stadium and my opponent has 7.000, BOTH TEAMS are losing money playing on his staium, with that move all teams should max their cup income.

[The Korean Football Club]

Perhaps GKO should limit all cup tournaments at 8-10 rounds and introduce cup qualification rounds for low level teams in large nations (like Thailand) that only give training bonuses equivalent to friendlies.... It could be set up with a similar structure to WCL qualification, after all...

In fact, all nations with more than 2 levels should probably have qualification rounds for teams in lower levels so every team gets a chance. While Thailand has more than twice as many cup rounds as (most?) other nations, many low level teams in medium-sized nations don't even get to enter their national cup. This could solve both issues at once!
 

Good idea!

[asjm]

No extra increase of the skills and money in the early cup rounds in some countries with more players until they catch up the cup rounds in those countries with less players. And many other tradeoff solutions I believe.

However, easier said than done in the game maybe, so I dont expect a change in the near future.

PS Thailand got shot in the knee again...  

[MathewsPateras]

No extra increase of the skills and money in the early cup rounds in some countries with more players until they catch up the cup rounds in those countries with less players. And many other tradeoff solutions

+1

No training bonus in cup tournamets, WCC matches, custom cups, friendly games, NT games. Only in league!! A fair game for all.
And in the cup, play the macht in the more stadium capacity.

However, the Adnim never read this. And never attend our proposals.....

[Kr10s]

No extra increase of the skills and money in the early cup rounds in some countries with more players until they catch up the cup rounds in those countries with less players. And many other tradeoff solutions

+1

No training bonus in cup tournamets, WCC matches, custom cups, friendly games, NT games. Only in league!! A fair game for all.

Yes, also remove injuries, cards and stamina lost in each competition, then the enviroment would be absolutely fair, and absolutely ridiculous as well 

[Sopelana]

No extra increase of the skills and money in the early cup rounds in some countries with more players until they catch up the cup rounds in those countries with less players. And many other tradeoff solutions

+1

No training bonus in cup tournamets, WCC matches, custom cups, friendly games, NT games. Only in league!! A fair game for all.

Yes, also remove injuries, cards and stamina lost in each competition, then the enviroment would be absolutely fair, and absolutely ridiculous as well 

Ridiculous and not so fair, because teams in uncompetive leagues could play with Young and train them while teams with hard leagues (that train on other macthes) must to play with players that are done and dont get training (only residual). 

But I'm agree that all teams should play on tuesday and not onlyu premiums manager. Maybe only Premium could create those leagues/cups. In this way, there will be no difference on training between teams.

[Drifter]

You can buy the right to play extra cups and get that extra training by becoming a premium member.  The only thing standing between extra cup matches and all users is a commitment to support this game financially.  If you don't wish to help pay for what goes into making this game happen, why complain because those who do help with the financial side of this game get perks.  Wake up and realize that paying has its privileges .