**Tips and Tricks** Training your players

[Sopelana]

from the rules:

"Specific skill training" allow you to focus on certain skills.This type of training guarantee an increase in the selected skill but the outcome of this training will be only 75% of the outcome of normal training. However, if your training ground is at level 4 (Good) you won't have this penalty. The same thing applies for fitness or speed training with fitness center of level 4 (Good).

question: is this section valid only for level 4 - good, or for level 4 and above (level 5 and 6)?

Is valid from level 4, I mean, level 4-5-6.

[tomnagel]

Club facilities are normally not fully advanced and hence it affects improvement of players. http://forum.gokickoff.com/Smileys/onion/smiley.gif

[DonDom]

2 questions about training:

1. The coach does not influence the training effect of a player when playimg a game, right?
2. If a players CA is equal his LA or even higher, the coach has no more influence on daily training (it's zero anyway), right? So there's no need to give him a coach, right?

thanks in advance for your answer :-)

[Kr10s]

1. The coach does not influence the training effect of a player when playimg a game, right?

He doesn't, it's based on player's Progress Rate only.

2. If a players CA is equal his LA or even higher, the coach has no more influence on daily training (it's zero anyway), right? So there's no need to give him a coach, right?

Exactly 

[DonDom]

fantastic, thanks for your quick reply! :-)

[gabrielis]

How big training bonus player with LA=CA and PR 4 should get from league match?

[gabrielis]

How big training bonus player with LA=CA and PR 4 should get from league match?

[Ruta]

When he has full in potencial only 0,02-0,03 . sometimes he get more because LA=CA in scout view don't mean that players is full. LA =1 is from 1,00 to 1,99 .

[florinsteaua]

why player with PR 5 take for the league match only 0.32...it should be 0.40 ??

[Ruta]

I guess, you choose a specific trainnig for him. So he get only 75% of match trainning

[Littmann]

why player with PR 5 take for the league match only 0.32...it should be 0.40 ??

My players with PR 5 and PR 6 gain 0.32.
I really don't know what is wrong.They are on specific Training but I have Good Training ground so they should not have any Training penalty.

[Ruta]

I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.

[Littmann]

I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.

Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

[gabrielis]

I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.

Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

check training page ingame

[Ruta]

I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.

Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

It was on this forum, I don't remeber in which topic . It is true, believe me. Try to set not specific training and you see that player gets  match training like this:

-League,WCL => 8 times the number of progress rate star.
-Cup => 6 times the number of progress rate star.
-Friendly match => 4 times the number of progress rate star.
-Nation team => 10 times the number of progress rate star.
-Nation u21 team => 8 times the number of progress rate star.

[Kr10s]

I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.

Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

Here you have it:

Hi,

It's normal. Bonus from match is deducted at the rate of 20% if you choose specific training.
It does not depend on the level of the training facilities. Training facilities help only for daily training.

[Littmann]

I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.

Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

Here you have it:

Hi,

It's normal. Bonus from match is deducted at the rate of 20% if you choose specific training.
It does not depend on the level of the training facilities. Training facilities help only for daily training.

OK,thanks.I didn't find it in Game Manual. But it is RETARDED rule!

[endlessmeans]

What affects a player's training more....the training room, or a good coach? Since I have enough money to improve only one...

[Littmann]

What affects a player's training more....the training room, or a good coach? Since I have enough money to improve only one...

It's difficult to say,because of formula
The progress rate of the player + (progress rate of the player x (The level of the training facility/6)) + (progress rate of the player x (The skill of the coach/20))
I didn't buy 700 000 G Coach,sou I don't know which skill levels they have,but you can calculate from this formula what is the best option for you.

[Kr10s]

At least to me, formulas aside, training facilities are a better choice....

They affect all your squad: it doesn't matter if you have 5 or 50 players to train, 1 coach can train at full strenght only 5 players, if you give him more, he will not do his work right.
Maintenance fees are far less expensive: Only one 700k coach takes about 15k weekly, so if you hire 2, you must consider your expenses will increase about 30k each week, training ground in good level takes 12k each week.
They can be upgraded without paying any compensation (if you have 5 coaches, you have to fire one, and must pay for that).

Honestly, having the money and formulas aside, i think training facilities are the better choice.

[Ruta]

I have to add that coaches have some age and I think they are going to retire someday. Facilities are bulid once forever

[gabrielis]

some time ago i have bought 700k coach.he has 15 working with y. and i dont mind my youth improving 1.5 times faster as they used to do (from daily training)

[endlessmeans]

Name :     Timoteo Asis (702529)
Team :     CD Dark Oscuro FC
Age :     41 years old
Nationality :     Mexico
Wage :     14,223 G/ week
Attributes
Coaching
Attacking    18
Defending    7
Goalkeepers    7
Shooting    9
Setpiece    17
Ball Control    9
   
Tactical    18
Aerial    7
Fitness    16
Mental    13
Working with Youngsters    6
     
700k coach. Age 41. Retires 65+?

Hopefully in 21 seasons I will have sold a couple of players for a couple million....Facilities train everyone....coaches only 5 players at full potential. But only 7 youth pulls per seasons, and say...3 6+ star potential players...Hmmm....dilemmas....

[florinsteaua]

i see your couch have 18 on atacking...can you tell us how much improve daily players training by him and that have progress rate 4 or 5...it will help us...thanks

[Ruta]

Name :     Timoteo Asis (702529)

Attributes
Coaching

Working with Youngsters    6

It is very weak coach for training youth
Drawing coach is always lottery Building facilities is unfailing