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Transfers of Free Players
« on: June 21, 2013, 09:21:54 AM »
How about an idea that than you have bought a free player you can get rid of him for the same amount of money you bought him. the rule will still be 80% from a transfer. As a result you are loosing only 20%. This option can be helpful for people who bought a player with a huge salary and want to change the situation.

This can be added as a rule for next 2-3 years and after you are getting chance to sell this player as usually putting the amount you want and getting 80-90 %

This also help to reduce the overall prices on a market.
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2013, 01:43:09 PM »
No way, we already had enough "free players for sale". If you want a free player, make sure you will use him to play matches, not for resale purspose....
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2013, 01:52:50 PM »
Totally agree with Carlos.
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2013, 03:43:10 PM »
No way, we already had enough "free players for sale". If you want a free player, make sure you will use him to play matches, not for resale purspose....

actually my suggestion is not profitable to one who is selling free player. It will just give chances people, who spent a lot on free players, to make their weekly salaries smaller by selling player for the same amount of money they bought him... and the same rule of 80% will take place so the owner is loosing 20%
But gets rid of a big free player salary

Very profitable business Carlos... Looks like you have read the name of the topic and nothing else  8)
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 03:50:04 PM »
If you want to get rid of him, you can always set him free again, just pay his weekly wage twice, as any other player. Do you want to sell him? Perfect, get the 20% in the first season, as any other free player.

I am sorry, but free players only generates issues so far, people need to learn to think before offering high money for them. If you have a problem with a free player, your options are simple: pay to release him or try to sell him and get a very low amount of money from him. It's not that complicated.

I read your full comment, i understand your problem, but your suggestion will generate other side effect (reselling), so i am against it. If somebody offered 50k as weekly wage, he must live with that burden or get rid of him releasing him again, nobody placed a gun on their heads to hire those free players, it was their mistake and they have the tools to solve that issue. I might accept your suggestion if it would be imposible to release a free player, but people can release a player, so it's your/their problem, fix it.
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2013, 04:08:39 PM »
I will say it again all tho it wont rly matter : All the changes regarding the transfer market screwed the game (mostly wage changes), I lost few players already cause people would rather pay 1 M G signing fee rather than actually giving those money to the club and not putting a huge wage! Its really hard to build a decent team nowadays compared to 2 seasons ago, hardly makes any sense to me.

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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 04:24:42 PM »
I read your full comment, i understand your problem, but your suggestion will generate other side effect (reselling), so i am against it. If somebody offered 50k as weekly wage, he must live with that burden or get rid of him releasing him again, nobody placed a gun on their heads to hire those free players, it was their mistake and they have the tools to solve that issue. I might accept your suggestion if it would be imposible to release a free player, but people can release a player, so it's your/their problem, fix it.

It is not my problem i am not buying players if i am not sure i will have money for such decision... I just feel that it is fine to give people second chance as well as a chance to players who really need this player to get it even after 3 days of crazy auction

What kind of reselling problem if I said that free player can only be sold for the same amount of money player bought him from an auction and in the he will get only 80% of money for that player so he is still in 20 percent loss????
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 04:26:43 PM »
I will say it again all tho it wont rly matter : All the changes regarding the transfer market screwed the game (mostly wage changes), I lost few players already cause people would rather pay 1 M G signing fee rather than actually giving those money to the club and not putting a huge wage! Its really hard to build a decent team nowadays compared to 2 seasons ago, hardly makes any sense to me.
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2013, 05:25:22 PM »
@Night_Fun(RigaGoldWings)

My point is that every move we do in transfer market must have its consequences.... do you believe we can win money everytime we place a player in transfer market? Sometimes, people lose money too, why whould it be different when we talk about free players?

You are proposing that, if you offer 10k as weekly wage (and paid 400k as transfer fee) you still have the chance to sell him at 400k, getting 80% for him, am i wrong? My point is no. Nobody pushes people to enter in that ridiculous wage war, if somebody hired a player and then it becomes unuseful, i'm sorry but as i said before, nobody pushed him to hire that player in the first place.
Free players were a stupid cheap/low cost bonanza, people used to hire them at 80k, filling chat rooms with that stupid "free player" message and asking 10x that initial investment, now they can't. The current scheme allows managers to fight for a free player only if they think they are worth to improve thir squad's quality, so if you offered a ridiculous high wage and you did wrong, you have the tools to get rid of him. If you set him free, you will need to pay his wage twice, but that burden won't be there anymore.

The only change i would support about free players is that players min wage should reset everytime we place them in transfer market: i have seen a player (est value around 800k) set in transfer market, his asking price were 100g, but his weekly wage were 50k!!!!!
In other words, that used paid 2M G for a player just because he were a free agent and keeping that player in his squad became a huge burden, he had no choice but to wait for somebody else willing to pay 50k as weekly wage again. I can tell you for sure, that user will think twice before trying to get a free player at such a high wage, other users will have more chances to fight a player against him.

To make things easier for him, i would accept if player's weekly wage would be reset at normal value (it should be around 12k) but keeping that 20%. He might be able to get a little more than those 100G and the player might still have chances to find a squad that gives real use to him. But i don't think it would be right if the seller would have the chance to place him at 2M again and he would receive 1.6M for him, that wouldn't be fair to every single manager that wanted that free player in the first place... that's my point.

I will say it again all tho it wont rly matter : All the changes regarding the transfer market screwed the game (mostly wage changes), I lost few players already cause people would rather pay 1 M G signing fee rather than actually giving those money to the club and not putting a huge wage! Its really hard to build a decent team nowadays compared to 2 seasons ago, hardly makes any sense to me.


That's true, wages were the first big error, but not the only problem: all of us knew that inflaction was coming, why the hell we had the chance to receive up to 15 youth players last season and now we can get up to 13? Players number must be reduced, the offer in transfer market is too high to be competitive!
Another problem was to show player level in player search: there are many great players out there, but since player's experience increases player level greatly, people ignores a low exp well trained player because its level is too low, in the meantime an average/high experience CA6 player can be sold at more than 2M just because his level, people ignores many things: their individual skills or if that player fits for their squad's tactics, they only cares about levels! it's ridiculous.....
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2013, 06:25:39 PM »
Thank you Carlos now I can clearly understand your position, but still personally for me there should be an option to get at least 50% of money invested just to give a person a second chance )))) But it is subjective and I can see that other managers disagree with me so we can close the topic and forget about my idea
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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2013, 10:50:15 AM »
I think a player with more than 10 club interested in should be set as free player although he is not in NT

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Re: Transfers of Free Players
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2013, 01:24:20 PM »
Everytime a free player is brought an amount of money is lost from the game.

Free players are something bad for the game.


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