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Levan

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Developing player realistic expectation
« on: June 13, 2015, 01:33:59 PM »
I made a big mistake by acquiring a player that has progress rate of 2 but i did it because his LA is 9

So he looks something like this 2/9/2 17 years old

on a match day he is getting +0.12 and from everyday training he is getting +0.10

So what am I looking at here I think at the end of the day 6 or 7 but what do you think ??

my question is what do you think on what level he will be at the age of 22 because I think limited ability of 9 is unreachable.

Thank you for your time
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 02:33:46 PM by Levan »
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2015, 02:09:45 PM »
Sorry, but i don't get your question...   :-\

Just a quick advice, switch from specific to general training guring matchdays. Your player is getting 0.12 in league matches because you are using specific training, he should be getting 0.16 each match.
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2015, 02:25:41 PM »
Quote from: Kr10s on June 13, 2015, 02:09:45 PM
Sorry, but i don't get your question...   :-\

Just a quick advice, switch from specific to general training guring matchdays. Your player is getting 0.12 in league matches because you are using specific training, he should be getting 0.16 each match.

Thank you for your very informative reply I did not know about 0.12  - 0.16 difference.

If i did not explained my question properly I apologize my question is this What should I realistically expect from him  because I am sure limited ability of 9 is unreachable, so what do you think on what ability level he will end up at the age of 22 ??
« Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 02:27:22 PM by Levan »
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2015, 03:42:17 PM »
CA9 is reachable. I have a player who was 2/8/2 and age 15 when he arrived with my team. Now he is 7/8/2 age 19 and should be CA8 later this season.

The answer to your question depends on how much the player is played. If possible, you'll want to play him in every match you have, competitive and friendly. If you do that, I think your player will be CA7-8 at age 21 and reach CA9 1-2 seasons later.
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2015, 04:12:03 PM »
Quote from: Brian Clough on June 13, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
CA9 is reachable. I have a player who was 2/8/2 and age 15 when he arrived with my team. Now he is 7/8/2 age 19 and should be CA8 later this season.

The answer to your question depends on how much the player is played. If possible, you'll want to play him in every match you have, competitive and friendly. If you do that, I think your player will be CA7-8 at age 21 and reach CA9 1-2 seasons later.
 ;)

So you think it is a reachable goal ?? that is fantastic, I am planning on playing him in every match

But you might have better facilities
my felicities is

Training Facilities :
   Very Good

Fitness center :
   Very Good

and this is my trainer level:


Do you think it is reachable with my level of team ?
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2015, 04:18:07 PM »
Quote from: lordaust on June 14, 2015, 03:33:35 PM
In WeAreUnited I had Klaus Nysæther. He has played 131 games for me (4 full seasons), trained every day with my best coach (not as good as yours tho) (until last season), with a very good training ground. He is now dum-de-dum-de-dum: 4/7/1!

Realistically I would actually throw all the PR < 3 down the toilet unless you get alot of help. Leiv Haga (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=7870556) has a LA of 10 with pr 2. He is getting there because of u-21 matches, but im sure it will take 3 more seasons after CA 7 and training stop hits.

So my advice, unless aged 15-16 its not easy and demand alot of attention.

Well, maybe.

I have another player Des Edison whom I received at age 17 who was 2/8/2 or maybe 3/8/2 (I can't remember his CA when he came to the team). He has only played 33 games in 4 seasons yet he is currently 7/8/2 age 20. I have similar level coach and training facility quality as Levan.
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2015, 05:05:18 PM »
Leiv Haga is 7/10/3 now, not pr2.

I too wouldn't use any  PR2 players, they take too long. Perhaps if I needs LA 7-8 players...
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2015, 06:32:54 PM »
Quote from: lordaust on June 14, 2015, 03:33:35 PM
In WeAreUnited I had Klaus Nysæther. He has played 131 games for me (4 full seasons), trained every day with my best coach (not as good as yours tho) (until last season), with a very good training ground. He is now dum-de-dum-de-dum: 4/7/1!

Realistically I would actually throw all the PR < 3 down the toilet unless you get alot of help. Leiv Haga (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=7870556) has a LA of 10 with pr 2. He is getting there because of u-21 matches, but im sure it will take 3 more seasons after CA 7 and training stop hits.

So my advice, unless aged 15-16 its not easy and demand alot of attention.

Well this is something that I thought about, from my experience PR less than 3 is no go but I risked it and then thought I made a mistake.

I contacted have send a PM to Russian u-21 coach about the possibility of adding him to u-21 squad but either he got offended by my Russian or he does not knows how to open PMs because he has not replied.
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Re: Developing player realistic expectation
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2015, 09:14:55 AM »
 ;) The problem with training PR2 players is they grow so slowly. If you commit to playing the player, they will reach their potential but how long will that take and when they do reach their potential, will that still be competitive. That is the question I think you must balance here. The player, if played, will make his LA but do you want to wait that long?
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