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It's time to control chat rooms
« on: March 22, 2012, 09:28:20 AM »
Admin, i woke up this morning, i wanted to see what my friends were talking about last night and this is what i found:




Even if i don't like spammers, i accept the fact they do they ads because it's allowed, but this is going too far..... people no longer respect 2 simple rules:

* No flooding
* Using local language in chat room is forbidden

Now, i believe it's time that people that people using chat room to "chat" have their rights respected too, it's not fair ask users to report a spammer, people don't even believe reporting is worth, it have been so many cheaters/spammers reported that lives free that people is tired of everything. Now, normal users have rights, you know? This "i forgive you" roulette must stop.
Argentinian managers begun to place ads in chat room, because they understood it's a lost war, they used only their chat room in peace, never were bothering in other countries with their "my best players for sale" messages, but things turned into this, flooding, and messages in any language, everyday, everynight, everytime......

Admin, it's time to think about something in this issue, and please do not come with the "report them to us" message, because honestly i don't believe you're going to ban somebody if you're forgiving cheaters all the time.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 09:38:36 AM »
Carlos , you are absolutely right. There is a  transfer ads thread http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?board=2.0 which is enough. IMHO spam in chat room should be punish. We should have a mod in chat room like in forum.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 09:47:39 AM »
I am asking for several seasons to do not allow foreigners post into national chats. It became very annoying to search between "best players, golden boys, very talented youths, champs." ads for countrymen msgs.

      Gabrielis  says : 
Stop spaming else we will report you
      
Misha  says : What the hell U R talking about???? What did I do??
      
Gabrielis  says : too much advertising your players.we can report since its already a spam
      
Misha  says :  xaxa, u r so funny. U r the only one that complain. So it\'s obvious that U have some problems, so resolve them by yourself, don\'t bother me pls! And I won\'t write anything more on your \"GOLDEN, SAINT\" chat!
   
   Gabrielis  says :  http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=3746.0 3 same msgs in 24h, i would call that spam
      
Misha  says :  ok, tnx for that...won\'t write anymore, don\'t worry!


sometimes i spam them that we will report and the reaction is almost same, they dont know its against the rules to spam
« Last Edit: March 22, 2012, 09:55:37 AM by gabrielis »

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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 11:37:20 AM »
We're gonna to develop a new feature which allows moderators to delete chat messages as well as to temporarily ban users.

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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 12:00:29 PM »
We're gonna to develop a new feature which allows moderators to delete chat messages as well as to temporarily ban users.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 01:02:39 PM »
sometimes i spam them that we will report and the reaction is almost same, they dont know its against the rules to spam

Sometimes it happens, i know that.... but that "Ozil" user, he has been here more than a year, he's very aware he's braking a rule...... he can post his player ad if he wants, but all i ask is some respect, is that hard to somebody use at least an understandable language and place only one ad?
BTW, he's braking a rule to improve his club's finances..... isn't that cheating?

We're gonna to develop a new feature which allows moderators to delete chat messages as well as to temporarily ban users.

Thank you, i'm glad to read this  8)
« Last Edit: March 22, 2012, 01:10:57 PM by CarlosT »
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 01:30:10 PM »
I know i sholudn't double posting, but this is really worth:

Gabrielis, what were you saying?



Admin, i'm not used to ask people to be banned, i never asked to somebody to be banned in open forum, but this time i'll make an exception:

ADMIN, THE USER ozil (19985) BROKE THE RULES TOO MANY TIMES, HE MOCKED ME AND MY PEOPLE TOO MANY TIMES, HE HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 12/01/2011 SO HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING, PLEASE GIVE HIM THE PUNISHMENT HE IS ASKING FOR.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 01:52:59 PM »
I am also a user Argentina. We are tired of getting up every morning and look at the chat and see it all flooded with spam  >:( This user has spam OZIL long time ago and still does. We want solutions right now, and honestly is one of the biggest problems I see in the game today  :(
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 06:34:46 AM »
support those ban.... i can find TL's in my standard via TL market search rather than those adv promoting crappy shit....

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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2013, 04:52:53 AM »
USA chat room is 99.9% ads all the time. I'll bet new managers think the chat is specifically for player ads there are so many, all the time. As a result, the chatroom is rarely used for what it is meant for...chat!

This is what our chat looks like, even with posts using player codes filtered out:



This is what the forums are for! Meanwhile USA has a player ad subforum in its national forum that is absolutely empty!

It is time to prohibit player ads (without player codes in them) from national chatrooms! Please! ???
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2013, 06:00:33 AM »
 >:( I understand your frustration. I visited the US chat recently and couldn't help but comment on all the adds that were there. People seem to deliberately be using everything other than player tags just so that they can not be filtered. This is in poor form and is an unsavoury practice. Nobody is saying don't advertise, but please please please use tags so that other players can filter the adds as well as read the chat left there by managers who have the primary right to that forum.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2013, 06:08:55 AM »
First of all, i must say that i hate spam in chat room, that's the main reason i never bother other countries with my player ads, but i understand that GKO rules allow spamming, as long as it doesn't become into flooding so i had no choice but to live with it. However as Brian pointed, people is creating messages without using the player code, so those messages can't be filtered and their messages are displayed, that is a lack of respect to others IMO: People is using their right to spam, but avoiding the player filter, people abuses.

I discussed about it sometime ago with argentinian managers, we used to avoid using spam in chat rooms, but with time (and zero control), users started to spam, then they started to spam avoiding the player code, their reason is simple: i can't sell my players, market is too hard, other users will keep spamming with that method, no matter how i behave, so i lose selling chances.

That said, i think that moderators should have an active role in chat room: Just give moderators tools to control chat rooms, they should exist for a reason, not just to move/remove topics in forum. Let moderators act: they should be able to warn spammers with GKO rules and ban them from chat room/contact GM with proofs if the spammer continues braking them, so GM can decide what to do. People will keep braking rules/avoiding filtering until somebody do something about it!

Just don't give me wrong: I don't think spammers should be inmediately banned from the game, restrict their access to foreign chat rooms should be enough the first time they brake rules after warning, if the spammer repeat their behavior, a more serious punish should happen.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2013, 06:33:09 AM »
I find all reasons what argentinain managers so I put mine ads in chat room. I'm not happy with that but  I need to do this. As I said in other topic we need more filters in LA ability search. Time goes on and there is many people who are looking for better players. Filter LA=5+ gives just too weak plyers for almost all teams. And please don't tell me about scouts cause premium managers can see 100 best players at each country. IMHO scouts are for see others players skills not LA.

Diffrent thing is to keep some ethic when we do somethings. When I put my ads I always have rare players and I don't repeat my ads if he is still visible in chat. I always try to meke my price reasonable, also

I hate this users who put their crappy playes for weaks at so high price.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2013, 06:59:17 AM »
I think even better filter on TL will not solved the problem on some visible level.Maybe all kind of ads should be restricted by some money punishment but...to help managers with promote players from TL programers should create special chat room...
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2013, 12:01:42 PM »
Wow no Zsoka there, how could that be!
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 04:16:09 PM »
 ;) Let me just say I appreciate the adds sometimes. Reading the adds has often put me in contact with some useful players sometimes at ridiculously low prices. This is especially useful even to premium members when shopping for players in countries like Thailand where the number of players from the country is so ridiculously large and the average level of the top 100 players in that country excludes all but LA8 players. Managers who honestly post their players abilities and keep prices reasonable are very helpful.
The problem with adds is there are some managers who seek to sell terrible players at unreasonable prices, advertise them repeatedly and indiscriminately. Players in adds should at least be players that can be useful. There is no point advertising a LA3 player. Fire that player or work with him yourself.
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2013, 06:16:28 PM »
Another solution would be a "ignore user" button for chat rooms, spammers would be free to post all the messages they want, and those who doesn't want to see their ads would only need to add that user into their ignore list.

Simple, fast and spam-free chat, with or without the player link code, people would be filtering spammers instead of linked players.
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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2013, 06:57:36 PM »
Best solution in my opinion will be to  allow only 3 channels for chat, Global, Channel for player adds and country channel for chat, in that way country channels will be spam free and must be punishments for global chat spamming,  there could be few chat moderators for Global and player adds  channel and for communicating with players from other countries we have PM. In my opinion this would be best solution
« Last Edit: September 08, 2013, 07:00:14 PM by tucko89 »

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Re: It's time to control chat rooms
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2024, 04:32:11 AM »
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