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[Suggestion] Souvenir booth and sponsorship improvements
« on: September 01, 2011, 05:48:10 PM »
As it stands, we get decreasing returns from increasing sizes of souvenir booth, and this should change.
For me, it shakes down like this:
A small both earns 38.2 G/energy unit (764 G/20 energy)
A medium booth earns 33.45 G/energy unit (1,338 G/40 energy)
A large booth earns 29.875 G/energy unit (2,309 G/80 energy)

This makes no sense. In economics, increasing returns to scale is a widely-accepted principle. The bigger the firm, the more money it makes per unit of time. I think it should work in the opposite way, for example:
A small booth should earn 29.876 G/energy unit (~598 G)
A medium booth should earn 33.45 G/energy unit (1,338 G)
A large booth should earn 38.2 G/energy unit (3,056 G)

At the very least, this should be a linear relationship (between revenue and energy), where each size earns the same G per unit of energy spent, but I like increasing returns better.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 02:53:58 AM by jmcconn »
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Re: [Suggestion] Increasing returns from souvenir booth
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 07:29:09 PM »
It's simple. You award because of logging. I think this is related to future commercial in this game. More viewers more cash.
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Re: [Suggestion] Increasing returns from souvenir booth
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 10:53:10 PM »
It's simple. You award because of logging. I think this is related to future commercial in this game. More viewers more cash.

I don't understand..."logging" is something that is done in a forest. Do you mean "logging in"?  Is this an attempt to reward active players? That makes even less sense. Does it matter if I log in twice a day or 12 times? I think that anyone logging in at least once per day is a pretty active user.  Logins don't mean anything either. I got so sick of having to log back in that I got the great firefox add-on called "TAB MIX PLUS" that lets you automatically reload a page at whatever interval you want. Keep one reloading, and you're logged in until you disable the auto-reload.

By "Future commercial in this game", are you saying that it has something to do with plans to make money with commercials cluttering up the screen? Even if true, I don't see what relevance it has to my club activities.  The way I see it, the more (money, time, or energy) you invest in something, the more you should get back per unit invested. Not the other way around.


« Last Edit: September 02, 2011, 02:08:18 AM by jmcconn »
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Re: [Suggestion] Increasing returns from souvenir booth
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 06:10:23 AM »
The reason why larger booth yields less because developers try to make this game active and addictive for user.

There has to be incentive for players to be active so they made smaller booth to yield more.

You can look at online games, even a game on facebook. They all have this pattern of return on energy spent.

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Re: [Suggestion] Increasing returns from souvenir booth
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2011, 12:30:32 AM »
 
The reason why larger booth yields less because developers try to make this game active and addictive for user.

There has to be incentive for players to be active so they made smaller booth to yield more.

You can look at online games, even a game on facebook. They all have this pattern of return on energy spent.

Okay, so I get the rationale, but I also think there might be a better way to make the game active and addictive.  For instance, I think the whole sponsorship process could be revamped to do just that. Instead of the automatic sponsorship money we get (related solely to the club rating). It would be pretty exciting if, instead, each club had several key sponsorship categories (sportswear, beer, betting, radio, shirt (logo), and stadium (name), each of which would be filled by imaginary companies. Each week, teams would receive a number of sponsorship offers that may, or may not, improve their overall sponsor revenue. Each would also come with a limited time to accept, between a few hours or a few days depending on its value, or they disappear (or get offered to another club). Even the match ball earns sponsorship money for each home game. Other sponsors might pay cash for each goal scored, or more depending on the number of consecutive wins. Each ascending level would see offers of greater magnitude as well as new types of sponsors, such as sportswear at level B and stadium name at the top level. Either way, users would have to check in as often as possible if they want (additional) sponsor revenue. The potential amount of action here is through the roof!

Another idea would be to sell advertising space. This is a great idea that could even replace (or compliment) the souvenir booth routine. For 20 energy and 1 hr you could "sell small programme advert space" and get the smallest (but most efficient) amount of revenue. Or, you could "sell large programme advert space"  for 40 energy + 2 hrs and get the middle amount. Finally you could "sell advertising board space" on a pitchside ad board for 80 energy + 3 hrs, and get the highest (but least efficient) amount of G. Again, the amounts of G could easily and realistically related with team global ranking.  Better yet, both of these could be upgradeable, which would raise the amount of G from each option. For instance, the matchday programme could be a 1-page non-glossy, 2 page glossy, 8 page glossy cover, 16 page glossy cover w/glossy insert, or 24 page all glossy (from low to high). Likewise, the advert board could range from a plain wall where ads are hung to a high-tech digital display with graphics, etc.. Each upgrade could raise both the number of adverts that can be sold (per match) as well as the revenue earned from each sale.

Going off the deep end, there's also the possibility that teams could purchase (and possibly upgrade) a team website (within gokickoff). Then users could spend all the time in the world creating their websites, making player spotlights, etc, etc. Prizes could be awarded to best club website, as voted by managers in one's league. Talk about active and addictive!!! :-*
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Re: [Suggestion] Increasing returns from souvenir booth
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 05:32:22 PM »
Like Ruta and SoLid_frOg have wrote.

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Re: [Suggestion] Increasing returns from souvenir booth
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2011, 07:29:51 PM »
Yeah, well, I still think selling advertising space (see 2nd paragraph in my last post, if you haven't read it already) is both more realistic and would be equally addictive, if not more so (from upgradeable components). Furthermore, the basic mechanism of the souvenir booth, as it exists, would remain intact.

Here's a good article on "how football cllubs make their money".

http://soccerlens.com/football-advertising/11782/

Not a word in there about souvenir booths. ;D
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Re: [Suggestion] Increasing returns from souvenir booth
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 12:01:01 AM »
Yeah, well, I still think selling advertising space (see 2nd paragraph in my last post, if you haven't read it already) is both more realistic and would be equally addictive, if not more so (from upgradeable components). Furthermore, the basic mechanism of the souvenir booth, as it exists, would remain intact.

Here's a good article on "how football cllubs make their money".

http://soccerlens.com/football-advertising/11782/

Not a word in there about souvenir booths. ;D

Alright, that's a nice idea. Football Shirt Sponsor, Stadium banners, etc.

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Re: [Suggestion] Souvenir booth and sponsorship improvements
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 03:05:40 PM »
You could add the option of selling your soul to the corporate devil.

Er, I mean, renaming the stadium to a sponsorship name. (e.g. Emirates Stadium, Aviva Stadium.)  :-[

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 03:12:05 PM »
I'd be happy if i could only change my stadium's name  :)

Upgradable club activities is a great idea indeed!
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 05:21:33 PM »
Yes i would like to change my stadium's name also  :)
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Re: [Suggestion] Souvenir booth and sponsorship improvements
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 07:06:42 PM »
Need change my stadium name to Libertadores Academicos :).And also 92.000 G of sponsors and selling tickets.¿Too Much?
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Re: [Suggestion] Souvenir booth and sponsorship improvements
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 09:44:04 PM »
Yes i would like to change my stadium's name also  :)

So would I, but not to fill my virtual pockets with virtual gold.

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