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Title: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on July 26, 2019, 10:45:12 AM
please ADMIN arrange or fix this problem...………….THE BEST academy is not the best anymore

THE ACADEMY is not producing any more good youths,....when i say good youths from LA10 upwards
long ago now i forget when exactly,.....7 ....8 seasons ago i had at least one LA10 or een 2 youths LA10.......and no LA6 downwards.....the least were LA7............

now i have scrappy players.the best one that i got this season was only LA9..........and the majority where la5 and la6 from 10 youths.........this is not good becasue first of all to build THE BEST academy .....we made a lot of sacrifiecs.....not buying good players instead manaers like me went to make THE BEST acadmey oin order to have the best YOUTHS...........................


and it is not my case ...(individual case) all m friends whi are THE BEST academy also had scrappy poayers,...one of my friends had the best one only LA7 from the youths, in general they were only LA6/5


if you ADMIN don't fix this p[roblem......many managers are going to quit this game.



Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on July 26, 2019, 10:48:38 AM
furthermore I know other managers who are VERY GOOD as academy,...and they had players better than the majority of THE BEST ………….some even had LA10..this is an injustice,,,,,,,,,,

FIX THIS PROBLEM
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on August 04, 2019, 02:41:13 PM
please ADMIN....I WANT AN ANSWER for my question ?
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: JM3 on August 12, 2019, 01:15:30 PM
I'm curious about this one as well. As I remembered before. Very Good academy had 9's, 10's even 11's before as well.
But that was an exception. Moreover they often came with a low PR rate. Now I also noticed that they get more higher LA + a high PR as well.

Personally I don't have any complaints. I received a 10 this season and 2 last season. But I do wonder if anything changed in the script.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: Kaiserz357 on August 12, 2019, 01:30:29 PM
This part just a simple business. If game give good player for all the best academy no one buy token to gain more player. More angry more token isn't it?  :P 
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: JM3 on August 12, 2019, 01:55:48 PM
The token I got from my premium account I used to get extra player(s). But I did not get talents. It was a 6 or something :P.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on August 12, 2019, 06:41:07 PM
the last la10 that I got was about 5 seasons ago,....last season I had only la9,  ...but apart from this in the past (unitll season20) the least LA that I got was la7 or la8...…..but in these last 5 seasons the least was la5 la6......for example this season the majority were la6...two players la7 and only one la8,...this is absolutely rubbish since , I invested a lot to have THE BEST academy.  ….at least with all the investement that I made I am asking to have at least 2 LA9 in a season, if I am not awarded with an LA10.               


even my friends in MALTA with THE BEST academy,,,,in these last seasons they had rubbish.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: admin on August 13, 2019, 04:06:40 AM
We will check.

 :(
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on August 13, 2019, 09:02:02 AM
my point is this, dear ADMIN
around 7 seasons ago the acadmy was acceptable,.....with THE BEST  i had the lowest youth LA7 or at least only one as LA6.....and i had always at least 2 or 3 quality player LA9 , and if i was lucky i got a least one LA10 in a season,................


now everything turned,....the lowest youth i had this season was LA4/ LA5.................and the best was LA8 and only one player, the majority were scrappy youths

in these last 4 seasons the best youth was only LA9, apart from this i know other managers from Malta who had worst than me as youth players

further more now to make it worst i sked friends who are VERY GOOD and i came to know that they  had average of youth better than me.................
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: Rincewind on August 14, 2019, 07:30:03 AM
My blind guess is that each academy level has its pool of players with limited numbers for higher LA-players. Lets say the best academy has 50 LA10+, 150 LA10, 300 LA9 players, etc; very good academies has 75 LA10, 150 LA players, etc (numbers are just for example). And since nowadays majority of the academies are The Best, the high LA players are spreaded among more teams and the chance of getting one is lower than few seasons ago. In contrary, there are less new managers and less very good academies, so despite the number of higher LA players in the very good pool is smaller, they are spreaded among fewer teams and the chance of getting one is bigger.

Just a thought

I join the sample with only a few LA9 (not sure i had LA10 in the last two seasons) for the last couple of seasons and I paid a lot of G for additional players each season (may be around 20 players in total every season). Best academy.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on August 14, 2019, 08:36:38 AM
I think that you are right,.....so this issue must be solved if things are as you are saying.

it is irrelevant if there are now many THE BEST academies,...….the pool of LA10 players for THE BEST acadamies must be greater , and increased, if now there are many and many THE BEST academies,...something must be done immediately...…….and not only just checking...……………...because it is not fair that teams with VERY GOOD  academies (since there are few now compared with THE BEST) are getting better youths than the majority (the majority since only few teams with THE BEST are getting LA10 and LA10+) of THE BEST academies (since there are a lot now)……………..
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: mihut on August 14, 2019, 09:35:34 AM
There are many, many banned teams with Best academy. The cheaters upgraded them on purpose, to dilute the pool.

The solution: all banned teams should be deleted before season reset.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: red lion on August 14, 2019, 12:40:16 PM
i agree with mihut, all banned teams with the best and very good academy,should be removed from the game at the end of this season , even managers that are  national coaches of banned teams, should be removed too, i agree also with stefancachia,  the majority owners  of  the best academy , are pulling out shit players , from season 17 till today i only pulled out 2 la9 players , and about 5 la8 players out of 64 players  offered from the academy  plus about another 20 youths of the 6 tokens,    in 9 consecutive seasons, i'm so frustrated with this situation , that i'm considering to leave this game once and for all
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on August 14, 2019, 08:53:31 PM
even if the banned teams are removed which have The BEST academy,...…..it is not the solution and will not cure the issue, since the number of THE BEST academy is relatively very big.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on September 09, 2019, 07:26:38 PM
dear ADMIN ….any news about this issue please arrange and fix the problem before the NEW SEASON, if you fix the problem after its not fair for those who investes in THE BEST academy
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: red lion on September 12, 2019, 11:35:13 AM
dear administration ,  i have an academy the best , can you please tell me for what this academy is called the best?or i paid for the best and i got  the worst academy? how can you explain to me ,how in 9 consecutive  seasons with the "best "academy i never pulled out an LA10  youth, and in these 9 seasons i only got 2 la9 and about 6 la8  youths  out of 63 youths provided , which means, i 've got 55 shit youth players, may be the size of my country matters? or its pure  discrimination ? next season it will be my last, if i don't see any improvement .
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on September 15, 2019, 06:47:45 PM
please we are waiting for an answer from the ADMIN
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 08, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
any NEWS from ADMIN regarding this issue ?   now the season is over,...….we need at least some sort of feedback.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY the best academies , don't ignore our plea
Post by: red lion on October 08, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
Dear administration , please don't ignore our urgent request,about the BEST academies,so  start from the new season (26) , give us what we paid for , real good players  otherwise, no good players from academy the best = no premium dear administration .
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 20, 2019, 10:22:16 AM
SEASON 26 where is the ADMIN ??????? I pulled out 6 youngsters today and the result was 2 LA7 ….2 LA6....2 LA5 …………..this means that ADMIN does not care about our COMPLAINTS...…………….

and by the way it is not a complaint,..SINCE academy THE BEST one must pretend BETTER PLAYERS ..at least LA9



i already spoke at the end of last season....................



Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: mihut on October 20, 2019, 12:52:41 PM
The best I got were 2 LA 8, but they were 18 and 19 years old. I also got LA 5 & 6, from the best academy. This is a bad joke! We can barely sell CA7/LA8 players for a few hundred thousands, but we get LA 5, 6, 7, most of the time?!
Not to mention that we pay 3 seasons worth of player wages, coaches wages and academy maintenance fees, to get those players to CA7! We lose money, based on what we get!

I suggested a simple fix: to delete the banned teams. Admin did nothing. I'm convinced that the situation would have been a bit better and the users would not have been frustrated, right now.

As a first step, I ask Admin to come here and give us a road map on things to come. What is he working on right now, what are his priorities, what should we expect to see fixed, by the end of this season, by the end of next season and so on.

I already asked Admin to shorten the length of the season. We have a week off at the beginning and 2 weeks off at the end of the season. They can easily go away. Also, an extra friendly on sundays would be helpful for some training and a bit of money.

Of course, the academy problem needs to be fixed.

I'd like to think that the Admin is a good guy, doing his best and the only problem comes from a lack of communication. This is why it would be great if he would come here and talk to us.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 20, 2019, 03:59:57 PM
the only thing that the admin wrote about this topic...….was only that they will check,...…………...but they gave us NO ANSWER ….no type of reply
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: admin on October 24, 2019, 02:35:22 AM
We have checked but we found nothing wrong with the academy script yet.
Delete banned users is a good idea. Let me talk with the team.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: Fradel Rovajar on October 24, 2019, 07:27:36 AM
Delete banned users is a good idea.
Yup, I agree with this idea 8)
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 24, 2019, 07:49:42 AM
there is something wrong fur sure...…………….
ADMIN you need to work on this issue....................
6 seasons ago THE BEST academy we had at least 2 or 3 players LA9 in a season if luck was not on your side,...i remember once i had 2 youths LA10 in one season
………..
but now in the last 4 seasons the best player I had was only one LA9...……………..

for example this season I had only LA7 as the best...…………



the worst thing is that my friend is VERY GOOD and had better youths than me...…..he had at least LA8...…



you need to fix this pro blem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,because some clubs witch have no chance to win honours …...at least they play this game to develop youths to good players




Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: admin on October 24, 2019, 09:14:51 AM
I asked the game designer. He told me that ban users with best academy has no effect on academy.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: Golex on October 24, 2019, 10:00:38 AM
I asked the game designer. He told me that ban users with best academy has no effect on academy.
:-[  :-[  :-[
Dear Admin, you either don't understand the problem or don't want to understand!! It's not a problem in the deleted or baned users or teams and their academies, the problem is if my team has the best academy and I only get this season 1 player LA9, the rest of (watch now) LA5  :P , most LA6 and LA7  :-X , and one LA8  ::) . The biggest problem is when I buy for money or tokens a new young player and get a player with LA5, LA6 or LA7. The problem is, there is no reason that if I pay (extra) for a new player, then that player is just as weak. YOU MUST TO CHANGE THAT !!
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 24, 2019, 10:32:14 AM
the problem is that there are now since we are now in season 26 lot of teams with THE BEST academy.

I think that there is a number of (LA10 or more) youths to be divided by the number of THE BEST academies...……...now since the number of best academies increased ,...……...you will have a small answer which I think it is less than 1 player per THE BEST acadmy.





the best thing is increasing the POOL of LA10 and higher for the best academies to be distributed...……


THIS IS THE SOLUTION...….please ADMIN tell the game designer to increase this pool of youths
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: mihut on October 24, 2019, 10:33:03 AM
It seems it's all random.

From Admin:
 "It doesn’t effect anything. The system just random but based on the quality of the academy.

No distribution system."

So, any banned teams should not impact the quality of academy players; the increased number of best academies should not impact the quality of academy players; the source ( money or tokens) should not impact the quality of academy players ( but it does provide more chances of getting a good player).

I also find it odd that I was getting better players some 12-15 seasons ago, but if Admin said there is nothing wrong with the script and nothing was changed, then we should believe him and just adjust to lower LA players. After all, we should all be in the same situation
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: mihut on October 24, 2019, 10:34:54 AM
the problem is that there are now since we are now in season 26 lot of teams with THE BEST academy.

I think that there is a number of (LA10 or more) youths to be divided by the number of THE BEST academies...……...now since the number of best academies increased ,...……...you will have a small answer which I think it is less than 1 player per THE BEST acadmy.





the best thing is increasing the POOL of LA10 and higher for the best academies to be distributed...……


THIS IS THE SOLUTION...….please ADMIN tell the game designer to increase this pool of youths

It seems there is no pool, just random
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 24, 2019, 10:41:38 AM
I think a pool exist...……

for example THE BEST ACADEMY from LA5 tO LA13
VERY GOOD from LA4 tO LA9
GOOD from LA3 to LA7



now i think also that there is a LIMIT of number of LA9 youths LA10 youths etc.......in the pool of the THE BEST acadmies...........

if one thhinks one can ncocnlude that the problem arrised when THE BEST acadmies increased drastically,.....in the begining when there were few THE BEST acadmies there was no problem..........since THIS POOL was DIVIDED by few teams...........as a result that every team had la10 or better youths,.....................

so one can adjust the problem by INCREASING the number of quality players LA9 , LA10 and better in the POOL which isgoing to be distributed among TE BEST ACADAMY..................


Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: mihut on October 24, 2019, 10:57:00 AM
Most certainly, there is that low and high limit for each academy level (5 to 13 for best). However, Admin said there is no limit of how many LA 9, LA 10, etc. are available for each academy level. It's random.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 24, 2019, 11:54:30 AM
they need to do something,...……..the ADMIN'S answer was that there is nothing wrong,...…...but this is not a solution...………..

I cannot accept that I have THE BEST academy and I got this season as best youth an LA7...….and my friend has VERY GOOD academy and got better players than me...……


something wrong there is
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: Rincewind on October 24, 2019, 12:01:02 PM
We have checked but we found nothing wrong with the academy script yet.
Delete banned users is a good idea. Let me talk with the team.

The script could work perfectly fine, but in the same time to be inappropriate for large number of the best academies in the game!

Let me put the question in other way.

Is the number of LA10+ players fixed for each level of academy (like a pool of players), despite the number of academies per each level?
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: mihut on October 24, 2019, 01:44:22 PM
We have checked but we found nothing wrong with the academy script yet.
Delete banned users is a good idea. Let me talk with the team.

The script could work perfectly fine, but in the same time to be inappropriate for large number of the best academies in the game!

Let me put the question in other way.

Is the number of LA10+ players fixed for each level of academy (like a pool of players), despite the number of academies per each level?

I asked the same question and I got this answer:
"The system just random but based on the quality of the academy.

No distribution system."
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: admin on October 26, 2019, 01:38:17 AM
No distribution system exist.

Let me talk with the game designer.  Is improving random system possible.
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on October 26, 2019, 10:57:48 AM
thanks ADMIN for your reply,...……..

there must be a way forward for this problem...…….please take this issue seriously,...…..cause if NO many managers will quit this game, or stop to pay premium.

thanks
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: mihut on February 29, 2020, 08:01:07 PM
No distribution system exist.

Let me talk with the game designer.  Is improving random system possible.

It seems like you forgot to do anything about this issue. It's my third consecutive season without a youth pull higher than LA 8
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: stefancachia on February 29, 2020, 08:06:24 PM
even I,....only LA8 as the best


they did not address this issue seriously,....so ma ny managers are going to quiet
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: Brian Clough on March 01, 2020, 03:21:59 AM
I smell a flawed PRNG
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: juaneman on March 04, 2020, 03:54:26 PM

I have all the facilities in the best, and I received a LA 13 , I don't know if it's because I have all the best.  ;)
Title: Re: YOUTH ACADEMY
Post by: Tackey Anderssen on April 26, 2020, 02:29:07 AM
cheers up.