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Title: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: DeGlen on October 17, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
I'm not really someone who quickly complains, but now I'm just tired of it.
I have my the best academy for quite a few seasons now, I don't know exactly which season I got it, but back then I must have been the 9th or 10th club with the best academy. Since that day, my BEST academy gave me 2 LA10's 3 LA9's, and I'm really happy that I got those players but then it frustrates me that there are clubs with also a the best academy who get 2 LA10's and 3 LA9's EVERY SEASON. Every season again, there are even some Thai or Chinese clubs with only a very good academy, who seem to get better players than I do.

You probably think now: "why is he complaining? He probably gets loads of LA8's, and that also not bad!"... Indeed, an LA8 ain't bad at all, but my academy gave me only 4 LA8's! You start to understand why I'm complaining and I'm frustrated? In at least 6 seasons with the best academy (or maybe 7) I got 2 LA10's, 3 LA9's en 4 LA8's... For those LA8's it is already hard to get into my team, because all those LA7's I've got earlier, when I didn't have the best academy, have much more experience, and because of that, are better.

And I don't want to be arrogant or something, but an LA7 is USELESS for me, an LA7 coming out of my academy today, will NEVER make it to my squad. I've been forced to buy good young players to train for the future, because my youth isn't good enough.

And this season is the worst. Allright, I got my 2nd LA10 EVER! SO YEAY PARTY!... But the 3 other players I already promoted this season... They make me write this, because it is just ridiculous. I got an LA5 en 2 LA6's, OUT OF A THE BEST ACADEMY! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? REALLY? A 5? AND A 6? EVEN 2 LA6's? I'VE SPENT A FUCKING 10 MILLION FOR THAT 'BEST' ACADEMY, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GIVE ME? C'MON GOKICKOFF, you can't be serious anymore!

So this season I can still call up 3 more youth players. In my academy I still have 10players in it, because yes, I'm naive enough to believe I can't ALWAYS get bad youth, so I buy a new one every time I promote or fire one. But well, from those 10 players, there are 4 of whom I can see the scout report yet. They are 7-8, 7-9, 6-8 and 7-8. I shall predict what will probably happen when I promote them. They will be LA 7, 7, 6 and 7. I've learned that from my experiences. But anyway, because of their positions, the only one of them that might be usefull to me is that LA 7-9, but only if he's a 9. Otherwise he's also useless for me.

So for now I claim that I am the club with the worst best academy. If you believe yours is even worse, let me know! :) It'll ease my pain.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: xerexy on October 17, 2014, 11:50:37 AM
Hi,

for now from academy :

when it was good level I recived 2/9/3 DML 16y and with The best 4/8/4 AML this season 17y all the rest is not usefoul or PR2 or max LA7 :)

enjoy :)
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: marctiello on October 17, 2014, 02:44:03 PM
Academy youth LA drop is clear since last seansons. There are lucky people who find more than one LA10 in the same sesons...and people that not...generally youth potential is low now...and it is good because if too many great player would be all over the game, it would be a little bit unrealistic. But i agree that with a 10 million G academy is pretty frustating your situation.  But it just bad or good luck :(
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Ruta on October 17, 2014, 04:45:47 PM
De Glen, I had the best academy in 1st 20 I think  . Since the beginning I got in LA : 1x 11, 4 x 10 ( 1 from VG aca ) But 3 of them are from change for 300 k g , so strict from primary poll I got only 3. I tell you that others which have great youth season by season make it by g or tokens. I think that I spent around 2,1 mln g each season for new youth.

so we are or pretty same level of luck, and its about medium I think. Others spent a lot g or tokens
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: DeGlen on October 17, 2014, 08:31:04 PM


so we are or pretty same level of luck, and its about medium I think. Others spent a lot g or tokens

Since I'm premium I got some free tokens and I've used 18 of them. The first 6 I used to buy new youth I don't remember. Last season I got one of my LA9's with 6 tokens, and this season my 6 tokens gave me a LA5... So I'm getting doubts by the fact that tokens give better youth...
Today I bought a new youth with 300k, and because it was a player on a position where I really need someone for the future, I immediately promoted him. He's a 6.. And youthplayers I've bought for 300k in the previous seasons weren't great either...
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: raketa on October 17, 2014, 08:53:57 PM
I have best academy 6 years. For all time I have just 4 LA8 player ( 2 this year ) 5 season x 7 player = 35 player from best academy. And just 2 La 8 with pr 3 that is really really bad. This season I have 2 La 8 but I wait report and pay 900 000 for new player. This season I will wait report for 4 player.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: marctiello on October 18, 2014, 12:38:10 AM
De Glen, i think that tokens or G is the same thing, i mean if you call 3 extra players every week, finally it is more probable that you can take out an high LA player...i think that Ruta is saying that, not that tokens give better youth .
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Sopelana on October 18, 2014, 02:10:24 AM


so we are or pretty same level of luck, and its about medium I think. Others spent a lot g or tokens

Since I'm premium I got some free tokens and I've used 18 of them. The first 6 I used to buy new youth I don't remember. Last season I got one of my LA9's with 6 tokens, and this season my 6 tokens gave me a LA5... So I'm getting doubts by the fact that tokens give better youth...
Today I bought a new youth with 300k, and because it was a player on a position where I really need someone for the future, I immediately promoted him. He's a 6.. And youthplayers I've bought for 300k in the previous seasons weren't great either...

Tokens give you the option of more youths, I mean, you pay for reports, and you must not wait for them, so that means 3 new youth every week (if you wait for reports, is not 3 every week).

More youths = more chances of geting better players, is simple, probability question (maths never fails)

In my opinion, like you said, tokens doesn't mean better player, neither premium, like some users think.

Be patient, I hope you can write next time telling us you were lucky with youths!!!.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Drahcir on October 18, 2014, 06:35:04 AM
I've also had LA 5-6 players from my "best" academy, it sucks! What I'm wondering is why are these players even in the academy... I know this is not the fact, but one would think that players get into the academy because they have some kind of skill or potential. Then why is there LA 6 players in the best academies? If I could choose now I wouldn't accept anyone into the academy below LA8, even if that means no one comes in a whole season.

On the other hand, one of my best players and my captain is a LA6
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=4036482 ;)
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: princessq on October 18, 2014, 08:02:28 AM
Sadly I play this game from season 4. It's totally 9 seasons and almost 3 year in real world. I am not premium for some earlier seasons and maybe not active enough. I promote all my youth only from the give player, no extra youth for G/T.

You guess what? except the first season,  i got 5 season G academy and 3 season VG, what my youth talent from all these output is 1 8/2 and 2 7/4. and even worse these player was promote  after i buy the premium. bad luck? or maybe some curse?

I haven't got enough money for BEST ACADEMY and better facilities yet...

By the way, my first LA9 was bought from you, De Glen. This AML http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=7337151
So hard to train him....
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: DeGlen on October 18, 2014, 09:15:58 AM

By the way, my first LA9 was bought from you, De Glen. This AML http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=7337151
So hard to train him....


Haha, yea, he's 1 of my 3 LA9's :p.. I got him from academy on the age of 19, with CA3 LA9 PR3... I didn't even want to try :p So I sold him..
My other LA9's and 10's are all PR3 as well, so it takes ages for them to reach full potential... Luckily they were a bit younger than Leo Kock.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: panjcof on January 19, 2015, 04:00:59 PM
New season same problems!  :o
I really regret my 10 million G for the best academy! I could have bought many good players for that money!
This season i got GK 4/4/4,GK 2/6/3, DC 3/7/3, MR 3/7/3, MC 3/6/3, MC 3/7/3 and FC 3/7/3 and when you have 30k per week of maintainance costs academy ain't worth that money.  ???
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Andy on January 19, 2015, 05:48:03 PM
Oh Mate, that is rough luck :(

Do you think you should reconsider how you use yor academy? You must have promoted these players blind unless you spent a sackful of tokens on early reports. You get 8 youths in your academy, so have you got a LA14 sitting unused in your academy?

For me, I promoted one youth blind (I couldn't resist it) and then I immediately recruited another 3 for 900,000 to take me to the max of 10 youths. I now have to wait until week 4 to get my first report and start deciding who to promote. Probably I will spend at leat another 300,000.

Maybe you are thinking you don't want to throw another 1m on an academy that doesnt produce the players you want but on the other hand you do need to give yourself a chance...............

There are no gaurentees with the Academy but it has to be said you have had the rottonest of luck so far, I hope other things in S13 go your way - maybe you can win a string of unexpected penelties and ghost your way to the final of WCC :P

Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: marctiello on January 19, 2015, 06:25:35 PM
I think that developers lower academy level effectiveness  in order to "invite" people to buy tokens and pull out extra youths. But for sure i am too malicious  :)
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: chuncho_ on January 19, 2015, 06:46:36 PM
maybe

can be, I think that having more teams with the best academy players who appear equally divided into these teams

if before had 100 teams best 100 He looked very good players
Now there are 500 teams in best He also cover the same 100 players good

unless very lucky, would tend to lower the possibility of finding good players
I have much luck in recent seasons, now not much
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Mubashar on January 20, 2015, 04:51:18 AM
I have a GOOD Academy.

I had 7 players this season. 4 of them were released on free (2/4/2) for 7,600 G. Remaining 3 (LA 5 or 6) are on sale for 100 G each.  ::)

Even degrading academy needs 100 kG.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: BuddAbass on January 20, 2015, 05:07:08 AM
I have v.good academy This season i got AML3/7/4 GK2/7/2 DMR3/6/5  and when you have 15k per week of maintainance costs academy ain't worth that money.

AML17 3/7/4 =250k
GK18 2/7/2 =10k
DMR15 3/6/5 = 60k =320k-85% =272000

maintainance  15000*4(week)*5(m/SS) =300000 :o   :'(    :'(
If you release player on free  You must pay compensation around 10000g (4youths)  ???


Aca V.good I investment 4m+1.5m+1m+250k+50k=6.8M ,Hope get some better youths .  :D




Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: panjcof on January 20, 2015, 10:04:37 AM
Andy mate,thx for you support but i guess it's just a bad luck. I pulled out all players blind like every season (for me personally tokens are expensive) and the only left player in the academy was 19yrs old so i sacked him immediatily :) Also,my finances are 1m debt so i couldn't afford buying new players. As you can see i didn't have any other option,cause waiting couple of weeks is bad for the players cause they are losing quality training. I  agree with the others-more academies less quality players. So the only thing we could expect is getting more worse players I am affraid. ;-(
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: djacko on January 20, 2015, 11:57:05 AM
last year was the first season after i upgradet my academy at THE BEST ....and guess what ...i got a miserable  2 8 3 ....and the rest of them were la 7 la 6 and even la 5 ....this year i was hoping for a better ....but guess what.... again a single 8 ....well at least better than the last season , it was 4 8 5 ....and a bunch of la 7 ...la 6 ...an la 5 ofc ....i am loosing hope that i will get anyting better than a la 8 .....oh and for the record ....i got 3 10 3 the time that i had VG academy ...cheers
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Brian Clough on January 20, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
just upgraded to the best academy last season, so far have pulled 3 players, 3/8/3, 3/7/5, and 3/7/6  ::)

I wonder if LA10+ even come from academies anymore? Or only from youth camps now...?
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Ruta on January 20, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
just upgraded to the best academy last season, so far have pulled 3 players, 3/8/3, 3/7/5, and 3/7/6  ::)

I wonder if LA10+ even come from academies anymore? Or only from youth camps now...?

yes, they come. But now it is rather exception only.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Mubashar on January 20, 2015, 05:19:01 PM
I wish there is a BUG which can increase LA/PR of players
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: elcura on January 20, 2015, 06:42:56 PM
Problem is in engine of academy there should be % rate of high la players going from highest class academy, instead we have 20-30 high la's 5 season ago where there was 40 best's and same now where its xxx number of them
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: uLtRaSpYnAlL on January 20, 2015, 08:36:12 PM
I made the best academy at the end of season 9 ,only the last season i spend 20 mln to promote 3 youths every friday,if you want to search good youths you must spend lot of money G" or you can buy 2-3 players every season :)
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Kr10s on January 20, 2015, 10:36:53 PM
The best academy grants you only one thing: you player's PR will be 3 as minimum, there isn't any other thing for sure.
In general, i think that Andy and chuncho_ explained it properly. When there was only few TB academies, the chances to get high LA players was higher than now, the reason is probably what elcura posted, quality rates are probably outdated...

In the way i look at it, if i can get 1 really good player from academy each season i am satisfied, but i rarely get quality picking 7 from starting 8 players, i ALWAYS invest at least 1.2M on extra youth and try to pull older players first, i don't mind having a player stuck in academy for a whole season if i can get him next season.... how many 17 years old, X/9/3 players can you buy spending only 1.2M? The answer is simple, only a few, if you dig into market really deeply, else, you can't.
In the other hand, improving my youth numbers i can also improve the chances to get decent undesired players..... if i can get 2 X/8/3 spending a million i will surely recover that money selling them, if i wouldn't invest i would probably get LA6 or LA7 players, and you can't get much from them. In other words, TB academy is not "the investment", its my "investment focus", if you use it right you will surely cover maintenance fees, some profit from players and maybe some really good players, you need to have some luck too.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: LieCheatNsteal on January 21, 2015, 02:51:48 AM
btw does any of u guys felt the longer the "Remaining time to show report" the "AVERAGE" quality the peeps will get better?
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: leonhart on January 21, 2015, 03:57:16 AM
In other words, TB academy is not "the investment", its my "investment focus", if you use it right you will surely cover maintenance fees, some profit from players and maybe some really good players, you need to have some luck too.

really agree with u  :)
and another important point, dont promote too much players without getting their report first. So its between u spent money to get instant report, or wait until the report finish. well, this is only my hypothesis after all, since I never get good enough players when I try to promote players early (the best was x/6/5 some years ago with G academy). after I chose to wait report, I got some LA 6-7 with G academy, and even got 2 LA 8 2 season ago and 3-5 LA 7 in a season with VG academy. I'll wait (too) for this season report for my TB academy, just hope my 10M investment will produce some great players
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: marctiello on January 21, 2015, 10:52:00 PM
Mmmm... My friend from Portguese league, last season pulled out 3 LA10 players. Of course he was pulling into Academy each week three players...so part it is just lucky and part it is statistics (and G's)...
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Kr10s on January 23, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
I have the feeling that academy youth are younger, could it be true? Today i added another 2 extra youth to my academy, and again, they are younger than 17 years old!
Since the season started, i had 13 youth players in total (8 basic, 5 extra), only 3 of them were 17 years old, the others are younger, so after pulling 5 players, i still can pull another 2... I have 8 players in academy now and i after pulling the remaining 2 i will have 6 players with report at hand, ready to be promoted next season.
I always invest some money in extra youth, but having so many 15/16 years old youth never happened to me before, how about you guys?
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Andy on January 23, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
Well my original 8 were: 3 x 18 yr olds, 4x 17 yr olds and 1 x 16 yr old
my extras so far are 1 x 17 yr old and 2 x 16 yr olds

I dont know if this different to last year or not.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: shomyguca on January 23, 2015, 11:43:38 AM
I have the feeling that academy youth are younger, could it be true? Today i added another 2 extra youth to my academy, and again, they are younger than 17 years old!
Since the season started, i had 13 youth players in total (8 basic, 5 extra), only 3 of them were 17 years old, the others are younger, so after pulling 5 players, i still can pull another 2... I have 8 players in academy now and i after pulling the remaining 2 i will have 6 players with report at hand, ready to be promoted next season.
I always invest some money in extra youth, but having so many 15/16 years old youth never happened to me before, how about you guys?

I have completely opposite feeling. My youths:

promoted:
M L/AM RL, 17

still waiting reports:
M C,16
GK, 17
GK, 18
M R, 19
D C, 18
M C, 18
D R,DM R, 17
D C, 17
D C, 19
AM R, 19
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: chuncho_ on January 23, 2015, 11:53:09 AM
is true also I've noticed, and I've seen in transfers before was common to see players 18-19 years, now I think there is hardly 19 years, and were more than 15-16 years, who were formerly very few
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Drahcir on January 23, 2015, 11:56:23 AM
I Don't know, but here are my prospects:

15 mc/amc - pulled
16 mc - pulled

16 aml
17 dl/dml
18 gk
17 dr/dmr
17 mc
17 mr
17 dmc
17 gk
15 mc
16 dmc/mc


Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Red on January 23, 2015, 02:35:21 PM
I have also more young boys than before but it is my first season with best academy...
But the way, I have a question: Is scout level give us better report of youth players in academy ? Is there any way to get better report.I mean more precise.  :-\
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Kr10s on January 23, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
Nope, reports are inacurate, no matter how good your scout is.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: marctiello on January 23, 2015, 08:11:06 PM
Wow Lordaust!!!! My Best level academy gave this season at least 5 LA6-7 players... :o i fired them all....
i got also 2 3/9/3 ---> to the transfer market and selling them for just 1M

the kast player is a 15y GK LA5-6 ....

Bad luck this season, hope next season it will be better!
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Harper on January 23, 2015, 08:32:10 PM
Well, i have best academy for few seasons, never had any 10 LA. In current season best player i got is x/7/5;].
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: panjcof on January 23, 2015, 09:55:42 PM
Lordaust you are the luckiest guy in GKO world. My best players were LA7 with the best academy
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Duongspy on March 15, 2015, 12:31:47 PM
Can you believe your eyes ?  ::) This youth players from the Best Academy  >:(

(http://up-anh.ssc.vn/images/25best_academy.png)

Each season, I have to spend about 6 million or more to search new players  :o
I only get some players (3-4/9/3)  :'(
So I should invest in my academy or youth camp  :-\
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Roostophe on March 15, 2015, 02:02:04 PM
I've had similar players of LA 5, 6 or 7 from my 'Best' academy since I upgraded. I've also had far too many DC's and MC's.

Fortunately, I got very lucky this season and got a couple of pearls. So good, in fact, I've already had someone messaging me asking if one player was for sale - JUST HOURS AFTER I PROMOTED HIM FROM MY ACADEMY.  ???
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Brian Clough on March 16, 2015, 05:20:42 PM
Each season, I have to spend about 6 million or more to search new players  :o
I only get some players (3-4/9/3)  :'(
So I should invest in my academy or youth camp  :-\


Well, for 6 million/season I'd guess you can get 4 LA8-10 players, or 2 LA9-13 players per season from youth camps, depending on whether you put the money into one or two youth camps. This is in addition to whatever your academy yields.

For me, these options will yield about the same number of LA9+ players (on average) per season. However, if obtaining LA11+ players is your priority, the youth camp option is clearly the better choice since I don't believe these come from academies.





Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Andy on March 16, 2015, 06:51:56 PM
However, if obtaining LA11+ players is your priority, the youth camp option is clearly the better choice since I don't believe these come from academies.


Hi Brian, just to let you know: you are not correct in this statement. for example, there are 5 English players with LA>10 (2x LA12 and 3 x LA11) and all 5 came from Academies.

Cheers :)

Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Ruta on March 16, 2015, 07:47:18 PM


Well, for 6 million/season I'd guess you can get 4 LA8-10 players, or 2 LA9-13 players per season from youth camps, depending on whether you put the money into one or two youth camps. This is in addition to whatever your academy yields.

For me, these options will yield about the same number of LA9+ players (on average) per season. However, if obtaining LA11+ players is your priority, the youth camp option is clearly the better choice since I don't believe these come from academies.
I don't agree if YC are better. I don't know any player from it who reached CA 10!
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Diartt on March 16, 2015, 08:31:38 PM

 I don't agree if YC are better. I don't know any player from it who reached CA 10!
yes there are lots of players who have reached ca 10 from YC . example- Adair Merricks (7105045) 10/10/4 , Enrique Puig (6722189) near ca 11 , etc ., but my opinion is that YC are more surely that you'll get player la 10 or more , but it has only ca 1  and that is very hard work to train him for 4 or 5 seasons , it takes long time to reach his La  , so academy is way better  if you have luck .
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Ruta on March 16, 2015, 09:04:33 PM
thanks Diart :). So we have a few Ca 10 from YC :) But as I see, they were farmed on loans and got a lot help from U21 and NT games. It is hard now to get help from NT for 1/10/4 cause all human teams have a lot better youth for training. More LA 10 at the most condition aren't enough to strengthen NT so 1/10/4 LA for u21 can't be useful either (cause of slow and long training).
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Sopelana on March 16, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
thanks Diart :). So we have a few Ca 10 from YC :) But as I see, they were farmed on loans and got a lot help from U21 and NT games. It is hard now to get help from NT for 1/10/4 cause all human teams have a lot better youth for training. More LA 10 at the most condition aren't enough to strengthen NT so 1/10/4 LA for u21 can't be useful either (cause of slow and long training).

Here you have one without the help of NT. Remenber that some positions are not used in bot NT:


http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=7165407


He is 8/10/4, but I will raise him to CA10.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Ruta on March 16, 2015, 10:19:36 PM
thanks Diart :). So we have a few Ca 10 from YC :) But as I see, they were farmed on loans and got a lot help from U21 and NT games. It is hard now to get help from NT for 1/10/4 cause all human teams have a lot better youth for training. More LA 10 at the most condition aren't enough to strengthen NT so 1/10/4 LA for u21 can't be useful either (cause of slow and long training).

Here you have one without the help of NT. Remenber that some positions are not used in bot NT:


http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=7165407


He is 8/10/4, but I will raise him to CA10.
still I can't see much sense in it :P So much pain for so little gain:( Ca 9 at age 23 costs about 4 mln. Is it worth?



Lokk at him
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=5733955
at 7,5 seasons I did LA8 to CA 10 http://i.imgur.com/aZQRLHS.png So more important is how fast you can use player without penalty for your team :)

Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Sopelana on March 16, 2015, 11:28:16 PM
I was training this last two seasons, so I was trying. I sold many LA10 from YC, and LA9,he stay with me because of position DMC. When I begun to buy nobody wanted to sell LA10, they were so strange in market. Now all people have LA10, so in market you can buy them.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Nidzo91 on March 27, 2015, 06:56:50 PM
It would be nice if Team Scouts upgrades would reduce report time in academy.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: yaba on April 05, 2015, 10:38:09 AM
I have v.good academy I spent 15k per week of maintainance costs academy ain't worth that money.
maintainance  15000*4(week)*5(m/SS) =300,000
Now best player i got in v good academy 7/4 ,Can sell around 200k
Please updated to keep the game balanced.  :'(
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: spamrulez on April 05, 2015, 03:59:44 PM
I am truly happy about my The Best level accademy.

The most part of my team is from my accademy and I earned more than I spent.

In this season I earned enough for improving my bar and my hotel from very good to the best and I took some interesting players too for my team.
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: Brian Clough on April 05, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
I have v.good academy I spent 15k per week of maintainance costs academy ain't worth that money.
maintainance  15000*4(week)*5(m/SS) =300,000
Now best player i got in v good academy 7/4 ,Can sell around 200k
Please updated to keep the game balanced.  :'(

With all due respect, your analysis is a bit off. To determine the cost of something, you must account for its cost relative to the next best alternative. For you, the next best (cheaper) alternative is downgrading to a good academy. Thus, the cost of maintaining your very good academy is the difference between maintenance costs of a very good and a good academy, or 7k per week.
Hence:

Very good academy: 15000*4(week)*5(m/SS) = 300,000
Good academy: 15000*4(week)*5(m/SS) = 160,000                           
Thus, the very good academy costs 140,000, or 87.5%, more per season.

I'd say a 7/x will sell for around 150% more than a 6/x and a 7/4 will sell for around 100% more than a 7/2
Since 150% and 100% are higher than 87.5% difference in maintenance costs, you are clearly getting a better deal with your upgrade.
 ;)
Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
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Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: GregoryUnubs on July 03, 2023, 08:12:58 PM
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Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: GregoryUnubs on September 11, 2023, 10:38:12 PM
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Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: GregoryUnubs on October 03, 2023, 11:55:56 PM
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Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: GregoryUnubs on December 03, 2023, 11:02:24 PM
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Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: GregoryUnubs on January 03, 2024, 08:50:10 PM
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Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: GregoryUnubs on February 09, 2024, 03:08:24 PM
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Title: Re: I have the worst best academy... That sucks.
Post by: GregoryUnubs on March 03, 2024, 12:27:08 AM
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