Author Topic: [Gokickoff Update] Changes in the player transfer system (Launch date: 09/09/12)  (Read 43563 times)

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Admin, you just make transfer system too complicated, that not good for all managers, including existing and potential new managers. A certain number of managers will give up because of these.

Anyway, good luck!!!!

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GKO  is  not  GKO.

I  play GKO   in the end of season 4

but now in season 6 ,everything changed.

Admin,Can you tell me what GKO will not change?
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1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the team that place the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)

i think it should be 20%-30% instead.

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time to change   

A new system maybe good for any managers who occasionally do day-trade just like me.  haha,  It's good news for me.

anyway, I still need a lot of info from admin about the new system. 

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Some times i buy a wrong player,and sell him not for money...just because i buy a wrong player
so why not set the new transfer fee only for the more money for example i buy the player 200000G.and sell for 400000G.
first 400000-200000=200000.the first 200000G is get 75%
and the more 200000G set transfer fee get only 25% bis 75% by the time....and the longest time is 1 season(16 week?) as i think.
and if i sell less than 200000 than just get 75%...i think this is better

and i really dont like the wage+bid idea.every will set a high price and all manager will only change the wage 。。。。and also for the free.
i think the Transfer system is a advantage,but now it is fully new....
no one can be sure what will happened you change the bid of wage....i think maybe it will destroy the GKO Game.....
you really should think abou the wage in the bid....

i always wish GKO will better and better
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 06:02:29 AM by 海布里之子 »

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Another question would be.... what will our scout's duty? Will they calculate max wage and transfer fee?

Scout is use to estimate the max bid but the max wage will be shown.

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none  50,000-->50,000
Very Bad 75,000-->100,000
Bad 100,000-->150,000
Okay 150,000-->250,000
Good 200,000-->350,000
Very Good 300,000-->550,000
The Best 500,000-->800,000


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- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.

- After the update we will use different heuristic to calculate the wage for the new contract.

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Admin, changes in wage budget suggest that wages will be higher.... have you consider increasing incomes from hotel/bar/megastore?

Wage that the player need doesn't change much but we will make it higher since some managers may offer high wage in the auction system.

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Well here we can do some kind on contract. What if we all do a kind of promisse or pact, when we in all world and in local chat we all said we're not going to pay more than 3000g per salary, and we all we are going to do it. Like a Fifa stament, so salary will go down, and then only bid will count not salary, cause we all in local chats and global chats anf romuns will be united, will be like a family in all world, and we all going to save money and help each other. In this way we can help us, and don't spend all the money that is hard to get, so we can used to make our clubs bigger and have the  money to do more stuff not to pay a lot for wage in each week.... We can show the wolrd we can make it, beat the system.... what do you think?  8)
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I like it, but this is utopia :(
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this changes make GKO so complicate...e don t understand these changes and i m not new in this game,but what about the new managers...they will be completly lost....and i don t understand why admin make this changes at the sugestion of a 2 or 3 managers...are you sure that others managers agree with these changes...A POOL IS NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT THIS CHANGES....AND IF YOU CAN MAKE THE THINGS EASIER,PLEASE DON T COMPLICATE THEM...LET THEM HOW IT IS...these changes will go donwn gko and only thai managers will have to win from this
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I hate the new system very much ,the change about wage and bid is just complicate but no use. And it will destroy the game because change is too big and the direction of the change is wrong.
The change of translation tax may be have some advantage. This change have a good direction but the change is too big and the punishment of translation is to much that almost no people can benefit.
Both these changes are blowing the translation and try to limit translation completely,this will strongly knock the interest of the active player and finally destroy the game.
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I think you have to change the gap at point 1 from 40% to 5-10%, and give us the possibility to earn 100% of transfer money if a player play for us for a long time (3 season at least for buyed player, 5 for free agent)!!   :D

other things are good....

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Honestly, i won't be affected with the new system that much, i'm not a "compulsive buyer" manager (this week i made an exception lol) so i'm more concerned on how much i will receive from my players, the 40% gap is way too high... maybe with a 20% would be enough.
I explained the new system in argentinian chat room yesterday, some people liked it, most of them not... but everybody agrees that this is too complicated.
And another thing, a manager posted today "wage's inflaction is coming!!!!!" and he will probably be right about it.
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I think GKO will change transfer system but i will suggest;

1. The system must set the minimum value for player bidding and wage. (Player "A" transfer value as 1,000,000G : minimum = 80,000)
2. In bidding contract > the manager can set additional cause for player (wage, transfer fee for player, next transfer cause -- the value for tear up current contract)
3. Player's mental Status > Happy to stay this club, want to move the bigger club, want to renew contract, etc.


** I feel good if GKO will change nearly to the realistic.

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This sounds good  8)

 gokickoff will be more realistic  :D

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Big problem cause high wages are coming, so teams will be develop much slower, another question is how it wll be new wage calculation engine? are wages going to be higher or slower?
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are wages going to be higher or slower?
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2 questions .

1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)

1. What is the minimum wage start in new auction system ?

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Free agent --transfer(1)--> club A  --transfer(2)--> club B --transfer(3)--> club C

transfer(1) is
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2. A free agent is a player who is eligible to sign with any club. To get a free agent your team has to offer the highest wage for the player. (The player transfer value is 40 times the offered wage)

transfer(2) is
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3.  Transfer value when selling a free agent depends on the length that he stay with your team as follows :
- 10% of the transfer value for the first season.
- 30% of the transfer value for the second season.
- Use the rule from (1) to determine the transfer value for the third season and so on.

2. Is transfer(3)
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1. You will receive 35% of the transfer value when selling a newly bought player. The longer the length that the bought player stay with the team, the lower the
transfer fee. You will receive at most 80% of the transfer value if he stay in your team long enough.
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« Last Edit: July 16, 2012, 03:03:00 PM by Mr.Es »

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Instead of 40% gap why not just award player to the team with the highest bid value based on total value of the bid (i.e. transfer fee + [weekly wage x 18 wks/season x no. years in contract offered]). This seems like it would be better with new transfer limitations

for example:
Bid 1: 500,000 transfer fee, 3,000 G weekly wage x 5 seasons
Bid 2: 300,001 transfer fee, 3,001 G weekly wage x 2 seasons

With proposed system, bid 2 would win...for me this is silly because the total value of bid 2 amounts to as little as 53% of bid 1 depending on length of contract:
500,000 + 3,000 x 18wks x 5 seasons = 770,000 total bid worth
300,001 + 3,001 x 18wks x 2 seasons = 408,036 total bid worth


With my proposal, the following transfer/wage offers would be needed (assumes 5 year contract) to beat bid 1 (above):
transfer fee              weekly wage               total value
300,000                          5,300                    777,000
400,000                          4,200                    778,000
450,000                          3,600                    774,000
Basically, with a transfer fee set at 40% lower than highest, weekly wages would need to be between ~75% (5 year contract) and 188% (2-year contract) higher!
This seem far more reasonable imho...

To compliment this, the length of time in which the transfer tax drops from 65% to 20% should be based on the length of the contract signed. I think 10-15% of the contract length is reasonable. If we assume 18 weeks (126 days) per season, this time period would be 25-38 days for a 2-season contract and 63-95 days for a 5-season contract. This would curtail players making insanely high wage bids to win the player, since they'll be stuck with the  player (and his wages) for considerably longer with longer contracts that factor in the bid's total value.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2012, 03:01:08 AM by Brian Clough »
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makes sense to me brian .... i like that idea better  8)

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good analisys, mr. Brian  8)