Author Topic: training  (Read 6157 times)

Azerbaijan_Manager

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 133
    • View Profile
training
« on: June 29, 2012, 02:08:39 PM »

When the 'current ability' of a player reaches his 'limited ability', training has no effect in improvement

 what should I do to make differences   among them  ?   


 

chefo

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2012, 03:01:10 PM »
Well after they reach their maximum CA they still improve stats from matches all tho quite slow.

I for example have few players with CA higher than LA but u have to play them very often in order to achieve that..

Azerbaijan_Manager

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 133
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2012, 08:00:14 AM »
 you mean that player  should play a lot of games  ?    then his  LA will be higher than his CA   ?

Azerbaijan_Manager

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 133
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2012, 08:06:16 AM »

 his is my   player who came from my youth school  .   help me  about his training  .  I   train his   tackle , marking and pace  . but now I dont know  which skill I should train him  .   




   

Djolle

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 156
  • Moderator of Serbia.
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2012, 10:32:47 AM »
Heading,Positioning,Decisions.Teamwork and little Passing,Acceleration and Technique.  8)  ;)  :)

chefo

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 115
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 11:05:00 AM »
you mean that player  should play a lot of games  ?    then his  LA will be higher than his CA   ?

His CA will be higher than his LA.

Read this : http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=7.0

webinchi

  • All Star Team
  • ****
  • Posts: 345
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2012, 12:03:11 PM »
Read this : http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=7.0

Chefo... the admon just named a few escencial needed atributtes for the some players, your DR need of course tacking pace marking strength dribbing crossing


But the DR should also have good pass to iniciate any play and good crossing if you want to cross a center for your FCs, or your DR needs if is deffending: Decisions, Positioning,  Acceleration,  Aglilty, Strength, Balance,  Jumping,  Heading

If your DR is close to his LA, If I were you, I Should sell it, and buy another one, because you have very bad numbers in some atributtes very necesary to have a good development in any game, for example: Crossing, Dribbling, acceleration, decisions position, agility, balance, heading


Quote from the manual
"Opportunities to score

 Please note that we mention only the key attributes affecting the creation of opportunity to score. There are, however, other factors that have positive effect on these opportunities. Also keep in mind that not all factors are equally weighted for they depend on the actions.

 Surroundings have effect on player's action as well. Excellent attackers may have a hard time scoring against a packed in defense. Whereas in contrast, weak attackers may pass through the defense easily if he is outnumbered by the defenders.

 Key attributes affecting the creation of opportunity to score...

     pass ball on floor

         Player Action : Creativity, Off the ball, Passing, Technique, Teamwork
         Opponent Player : Decisions, Positioning, Tackling, Marking

     pass high ball

         Player Action : Creativity, Off the ball, Crossing, Technique, Teamwork
         Opponent Player : Decisions, Positioning, Tackling, Marking

     Drill Cross (By line)

         Player Action : Acceleration, Pace, Aglilty, Dribbing, Technique, Off the ball, Crossing, Passing, Strength, Balance
         Opponent Player : Positioning, Marking, Acceleration, Pace, Aglilty, Strength, Balance, Tackling, Decisions

     Float Cross (By line)

         Player Action : Acceleration, Pace, Aglilty, Dribbing, Technique, Off the ball, Crossing, Strength, Balance
         Opponent Player : Positioning, Marking, Acceleration, Pace, Aglilty, Strength, Balance, Tackling, Decisions

     Dribbling

         Player Action : Dribbing, Technique, Aglilty, Acceleration, Pace, Strength, Balance
         Opponent Player : Decisions, Marking, Acceleration, Tackling, Strength, Balance

     Finding an opportunity to score (with the ball)

         Player Action : Off the ball, Dribbing, Acceleration, Pace, Aglilty, Strength, Balance, Technique
         Opponent Player : Positioning, Marking, Strength, Balance, Tackling, Decisions

     Challenging the defenders for a heading

         Player Action : Jumping, Heading, Off the ball, Strength, Balance, Technique
         Opponent Player : Jumping, Marking, Strength, Balance, Heading, Positioning

     Beating the defenders for the ball from a drill cross.

         Player Action : Off the ball, Acceleration, Pace, Aglilty, Strength, Balance, Technique
         Opponent Player : Marking, Positioning, Tackling, Strength, Balance, Acceleration

         Counter Attack (Short) :

         Player who launch a counter attack : Passing, Creativity
         First Attacker : Passing, Off the ball, Acceleration, Pace
         Second Attacker : Passing, Off the ball, Acceleration, Pace
         Defender : Positioning, Tackling, Marking, Acceleration, Pace

     Counter Attack (Long) :

         Player who launch a counter attack : Crossing, Creativity
         Payer who run for the ball : Passing, Acceleration, Pace
         Defender : Positioning, Tackling, Marking, Acceleration, Pace"
« Last Edit: June 30, 2012, 12:05:43 PM by webinchi »
Season 6 - C9 Champion
Season 7 - B3 Champion
Season 8 - Top 9th Place
Season 9 - Top 8th Place
Season 10 - Top 6th Place
Season 11 - Top 3th Place
Season 12 - Top 4th Place
Season 13 - Top 10th Place
Season 14 - Top 7th Place
Necaxa: http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=134117

Brian Clough

  • Moderator
  • Legendary Team
  • *****
  • Posts: 1315
  • GKO Moderator
    • View Profile
    • Coolsport.tv - free live streaming football and other sports with great English chat...join us!
Re: training
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2012, 02:40:16 PM »
What you should train for this player depends on your tactical preferences. If you prefer using zone marking, you will want to focus on positioning and pace. If you prefer man marking, he needs training in decisions and balance. Furthermore, if you prefer "press more" closing down tactics, the player needs speed and stamina training, while if you prefer "stand-off" tactic he needs training in positioning and balance.
 ::)
Also consider the desired counter-tactics you want. Right now, the player can counter "stick to position" attacking fairly well, but he is poor with countering a "more roaming" attack. To improve this, he will need training in positioning, teamwork, and/or speed

Finally, you should also keep in mind that this player is very defenseive-minded with a nice aggression score but a very low determination, so no matter how good his attacking skills are, he won't be involved in very many attacking plays, though this can be improved somewhat through team tactics. This is important because, unlike other skills, one cannot train "determination" as a specific skill.
 ;)


Never sacrifice passion for glory!

Azerbaijan_Manager

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 133
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2012, 02:57:48 PM »
Heading,Positioning,Decisions.Teamwork and little Passing,Acceleration and Technique.  8)  ;)  :)

  but he is DR   . he does not need  heading imo  :P 

Azerbaijan_Manager

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 133
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2012, 03:03:19 PM »

    I see  different  recommends  and now I am confuced  .    Should  I train his  tackle , marking and pace untill  20  ?


  or he need  crossing and dribbling  and strange  ?

Djolle

  • National Team
  • ***
  • Posts: 156
  • Moderator of Serbia.
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2012, 03:34:53 PM »
Heading,Positioning,Decisions.Teamwork and little Passing,Acceleration and Technique.  8)  ;)  :)

  but he is DR   . he does not need  heading imo  :P

It is desirable that all defensive players are playing well head.  ;)

But then the situation changes, it takes more acceleration and techniques.  8)
« Last Edit: June 30, 2012, 03:40:05 PM by ShadoW »


GregoryUnubs

  • Legendary Team
  • *****
  • Posts: 150645
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2023, 11:19:52 AM »
audiobookkeeper.rucottagenet.rueyesvision.rueyesvisions.comfactoringfee.rufilmzones.rugadwall.rugaffertape.rugageboard.rugagrule.rugallduct.rugalvanometric.rugangforeman.rugangwayplatform.rugarbagechute.rugardeningleave.rugascautery.rugashbucket.rugasreturn.rugatedsweep.rugaugemodel.rugaussianfilter.rugearpitchdiameter.ru
geartreating.rugeneralizedanalysis.rugeneralprovisions.rugeophysicalprobe.rugeriatricnurse.rugetintoaflap.rugetthebounce.ruhabeascorpus.ruhabituate.ruhackedbolt.ruhackworker.ruhadronicannihilation.ruhaemagglutinin.ruhailsquall.ruhairysphere.ruhalforderfringe.ruhalfsiblings.ruhallofresidence.ruhaltstate.ruhandcoding.ruhandportedhead.ruhandradar.ruhandsfreetelephone.ru
hangonpart.ruhaphazardwinding.ruhardalloyteeth.ruhardasiron.ruhardenedconcrete.ruharmonicinteraction.ruhartlaubgoose.ruhatchholddown.ruhaveafinetime.ruhazardousatmosphere.ruheadregulator.ruheartofgold.ruheatageingresistance.ruheatinggas.ruheavydutymetalcutting.rujacketedwall.rujapanesecedar.rujibtypecrane.rujobabandonment.rujobstress.rujogformation.rujointcapsule.rujointsealingmaterial.ru
journallubricator.rujuicecatcher.rujunctionofchannels.rujusticiablehomicide.rujuxtapositiontwin.rukaposidisease.rukeepagoodoffing.rukeepsmthinhand.rukentishglory.rukerbweight.rukerrrotation.rukeymanassurance.rukeyserum.rukickplate.rukillthefattedcalf.rukilowattsecond.rukingweakfish.rukinozones.rukleinbottle.rukneejoint.ruknifesethouse.ruknockonatom.ruknowledgestate.ru
kondoferromagnet.rulabeledgraph.rulaborracket.rulabourearnings.rulabourleasing.rulaburnumtree.rulacingcourse.rulacrimalpoint.rulactogenicfactor.rulacunarycoefficient.ruladletreatediron.rulaggingload.rulaissezaller.rulambdatransition.rulaminatedmaterial.rulammasshoot.rulamphouse.rulancecorporal.rulancingdie.rulandingdoor.rulandmarksensor.rulandreform.rulanduseratio.ru
languagelaboratory.rulargeheart.rulasercalibration.rulaserlens.rulaserpulse.rulaterevent.rulatrinesergeant.rulayabout.ruleadcoating.ruleadingfirm.rulearningcurve.ruleaveword.rumachinesensible.rumagneticequator.rumagnetotelluricfield.rumailinghouse.rumajorconcern.rumammasdarling.rumanagerialstaff.rumanipulatinghand.rumanualchoke.rumedinfobooks.rump3lists.ru
nameresolution.runaphtheneseries.runarrowmouthed.runationalcensus.runaturalfunctor.runavelseed.runeatplaster.runecroticcaries.runegativefibration.runeighbouringrights.ruobjectmodule.ruobservationballoon.ruobstructivepatent.ruoceanmining.ruoctupolephonon.ruofflinesystem.ruoffsetholder.ruolibanumresinoid.ruonesticket.rupackedspheres.rupagingterminal.rupalatinebones.rupalmberry.ru
papercoating.ruparaconvexgroup.ruparasolmonoplane.ruparkingbrake.rupartfamily.rupartialmajorant.ruquadrupleworm.ruqualitybooster.ruquasimoney.ruquenchedspark.ruquodrecuperet.rurabbetledge.ruradialchaser.ruradiationestimator.rurailwaybridge.rurandomcoloration.rurapidgrowth.rurattlesnakemaster.rureachthroughregion.rureadingmagnifier.rurearchain.rurecessioncone.rurecordedassignment.ru
rectifiersubstation.ruredemptionvalue.rureducingflange.rureferenceantigen.ruregeneratedprotein.rureinvestmentplan.rusafedrilling.rusagprofile.rusalestypelease.rusamplinginterval.rusatellitehydrology.ruscarcecommodity.ruscrapermat.ruscrewingunit.ruseawaterpump.rusecondaryblock.rusecularclergy.ruseismicefficiency.ruselectivediffuser.rusemiasphalticflux.rusemifinishmachining.ruspicetrade.ruspysale.ru
stungun.rutacticaldiameter.rutailstockcenter.rutamecurve.rutapecorrection.rutappingchuck.rutaskreasoning.rutechnicalgrade.rutelangiectaticlipoma.rutelescopicdamper.rutemperateclimate.rutemperedmeasure.rutenementbuilding.rutuchkasultramaficrock.ruultraviolettesting.ru


GregoryUnubs

  • Legendary Team
  • *****
  • Posts: 150645
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2023, 04:05:50 PM »
audiobookkeeper.rucottagenet.rueyesvision.rueyesvisions.comfactoringfee.rufilmzones.rugadwall.rugaffertape.rugageboard.rugagrule.rugallduct.rugalvanometric.rugangforeman.rugangwayplatform.rugarbagechute.rugardeningleave.rugascautery.rugashbucket.rugasreturn.rugatedsweep.rugaugemodel.rugaussianfilter.rugearpitchdiameter.ru
geartreating.rugeneralizedanalysis.rugeneralprovisions.rugeophysicalprobe.rugeriatricnurse.rugetintoaflap.rugetthebounce.ruhabeascorpus.ruhabituate.ruhackedbolt.ruhackworker.ruhadronicannihilation.ruhaemagglutinin.ruhailsquall.ruhairysphere.ruhalforderfringe.ruhalfsiblings.ruhallofresidence.ruhaltstate.ruhandcoding.ruhandportedhead.ruhandradar.ruhandsfreetelephone.ru
hangonpart.ruhaphazardwinding.ruhardalloyteeth.ruhardasiron.ruhardenedconcrete.ruharmonicinteraction.ruhartlaubgoose.ruhatchholddown.ruhaveafinetime.ruhazardousatmosphere.ruheadregulator.ruheartofgold.ruheatageingresistance.ruheatinggas.ruheavydutymetalcutting.rujacketedwall.rujapanesecedar.rujibtypecrane.rujobabandonment.rujobstress.rujogformation.rujointcapsule.rujointsealingmaterial.ru
journallubricator.rujuicecatcher.rujunctionofchannels.rujusticiablehomicide.rujuxtapositiontwin.rukaposidisease.rukeepagoodoffing.rukeepsmthinhand.rukentishglory.rukerbweight.rukerrrotation.rukeymanassurance.rukeyserum.rukickplate.rukillthefattedcalf.rukilowattsecond.rukingweakfish.rukinozones.rukleinbottle.rukneejoint.ruknifesethouse.ruknockonatom.ruknowledgestate.ru
kondoferromagnet.rulabeledgraph.rulaborracket.rulabourearnings.rulabourleasing.rulaburnumtree.rulacingcourse.rulacrimalpoint.rulactogenicfactor.rulacunarycoefficient.ruladletreatediron.rulaggingload.rulaissezaller.rulambdatransition.rulaminatedmaterial.rulammasshoot.rulamphouse.rulancecorporal.rulancingdie.rulandingdoor.rulandmarksensor.rulandreform.rulanduseratio.ru
languagelaboratory.rulargeheart.rulasercalibration.rulaserlens.rulaserpulse.rulaterevent.rulatrinesergeant.rulayabout.ruleadcoating.ruleadingfirm.rulearningcurve.ruleaveword.rumachinesensible.rumagneticequator.rumagnetotelluricfield.rumailinghouse.rumajorconcern.rumammasdarling.rumanagerialstaff.rumanipulatinghand.rumanualchoke.rumedinfobooks.rump3lists.ru
nameresolution.runaphtheneseries.runarrowmouthed.runationalcensus.runaturalfunctor.runavelseed.runeatplaster.runecroticcaries.runegativefibration.runeighbouringrights.ruobjectmodule.ruobservationballoon.ruobstructivepatent.ruoceanmining.ruoctupolephonon.ruofflinesystem.ruoffsetholder.ruolibanumresinoid.ruonesticket.rupackedspheres.rupagingterminal.rupalatinebones.rupalmberry.ru
papercoating.ruparaconvexgroup.ruparasolmonoplane.ruparkingbrake.rupartfamily.rupartialmajorant.ruquadrupleworm.ruqualitybooster.ruquasimoney.ruquenchedspark.ruquodrecuperet.rurabbetledge.ruradialchaser.ruradiationestimator.rurailwaybridge.rurandomcoloration.rurapidgrowth.rurattlesnakemaster.rureachthroughregion.rureadingmagnifier.rurearchain.rurecessioncone.rurecordedassignment.ru
rectifiersubstation.ruredemptionvalue.rureducingflange.rureferenceantigen.ruregeneratedprotein.rureinvestmentplan.rusafedrilling.rusagprofile.rusalestypelease.rusamplinginterval.rusatellitehydrology.ruscarcecommodity.ruscrapermat.ruscrewingunit.ruseawaterpump.rusecondaryblock.rusecularclergy.ruseismicefficiency.ruselectivediffuser.rusemiasphalticflux.rusemifinishmachining.ruspicetrade.ruspysale.ru
stungun.rutacticaldiameter.rutailstockcenter.rutamecurve.rutapecorrection.rutappingchuck.rutaskreasoning.rutechnicalgrade.rutelangiectaticlipoma.rutelescopicdamper.rutemperateclimate.rutemperedmeasure.rutenementbuilding.rutuchkasultramaficrock.ruultraviolettesting.ru


GregoryUnubs

  • Legendary Team
  • *****
  • Posts: 150645
    • View Profile
Re: training
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2024, 06:19:52 AM »
http://audiobookkeeper.ruhttp://cottagenet.ruhttp://eyesvision.ruhttp://eyesvisions.comhttp://factoringfee.ruhttp://filmzones.ruhttp://gadwall.ruhttp://gaffertape.ruhttp://gageboard.ruhttp://gagrule.ruhttp://gallduct.ruhttp://galvanometric.ruhttp://gangforeman.ruhttp://gangwayplatform.ruhttp://garbagechute.ruhttp://gardeningleave.ruhttp://gascautery.ruhttp://gashbucket.ruhttp://gasreturn.ruhttp://gatedsweep.ruhttp://gaugemodel.ruhttp://gaussianfilter.ruhttp://gearpitchdiameter.ru
http://geartreating.ruhttp://generalizedanalysis.ruhttp://generalprovisions.ruhttp://geophysicalprobe.ruhttp://geriatricnurse.ruhttp://getintoaflap.ruhttp://getthebounce.ruhttp://habeascorpus.ruhttp://habituate.ruhttp://hackedbolt.ruhttp://hackworker.ruhttp://hadronicannihilation.ruhttp://haemagglutinin.ruhttp://hailsquall.ruhttp://hairysphere.ruhttp://halforderfringe.ruhttp://halfsiblings.ruhttp://hallofresidence.ruhttp://haltstate.ruhttp://handcoding.ruhttp://handportedhead.ruhttp://handradar.ruhttp://handsfreetelephone.ru
http://hangonpart.ruhttp://haphazardwinding.ruhttp://hardalloyteeth.ruhttp://hardasiron.ruhttp://hardenedconcrete.ruhttp://harmonicinteraction.ruhttp://hartlaubgoose.ruhttp://hatchholddown.ruhttp://haveafinetime.ruhttp://hazardousatmosphere.ruhttp://headregulator.ruhttp://heartofgold.ruhttp://heatageingresistance.ruhttp://heatinggas.ruhttp://heavydutymetalcutting.ruhttp://jacketedwall.ruhttp://japanesecedar.ruhttp://jibtypecrane.ruhttp://jobabandonment.ruhttp://jobstress.ruhttp://jogformation.ruhttp://jointcapsule.ruhttp://jointsealingmaterial.ru
http://journallubricator.ruhttp://juicecatcher.ruhttp://junctionofchannels.ruhttp://justiciablehomicide.ruhttp://juxtapositiontwin.ruhttp://kaposidisease.ruhttp://keepagoodoffing.ruhttp://keepsmthinhand.ruhttp://kentishglory.ruhttp://kerbweight.ruhttp://kerrrotation.ruhttp://keymanassurance.ruhttp://keyserum.ruhttp://kickplate.ruhttp://killthefattedcalf.ruhttp://kilowattsecond.ruhttp://kingweakfish.ruhttp://kinozones.ruhttp://kleinbottle.ruhttp://kneejoint.ruhttp://knifesethouse.ruhttp://knockonatom.ruhttp://knowledgestate.ru
http://kondoferromagnet.ruhttp://labeledgraph.ruhttp://laborracket.ruhttp://labourearnings.ruhttp://labourleasing.ruhttp://laburnumtree.ruhttp://lacingcourse.ruhttp://lacrimalpoint.ruhttp://lactogenicfactor.ruhttp://lacunarycoefficient.ruhttp://ladletreatediron.ruhttp://laggingload.ruhttp://laissezaller.ruhttp://lambdatransition.ruhttp://laminatedmaterial.ruhttp://lammasshoot.ruhttp://lamphouse.ruhttp://lancecorporal.ruhttp://lancingdie.ruhttp://landingdoor.ruhttp://landmarksensor.ruhttp://landreform.ruhttp://landuseratio.ru
http://languagelaboratory.ruhttp://largeheart.ruhttp://lasercalibration.ruhttp://laserlens.ruhttp://laserpulse.ruhttp://laterevent.ruhttp://latrinesergeant.ruhttp://layabout.ruhttp://leadcoating.ruhttp://leadingfirm.ruhttp://learningcurve.ruhttp://leaveword.ruhttp://machinesensible.ruhttp://magneticequator.ruhttp://magnetotelluricfield.ruhttp://mailinghouse.ruhttp://majorconcern.ruhttp://mammasdarling.ruhttp://managerialstaff.ruhttp://manipulatinghand.ruhttp://manualchoke.ruhttp://medinfobooks.ruhttp://mp3lists.ru
http://nameresolution.ruhttp://naphtheneseries.ruhttp://narrowmouthed.ruhttp://nationalcensus.ruhttp://naturalfunctor.ruhttp://navelseed.ruhttp://neatplaster.ruhttp://necroticcaries.ruhttp://negativefibration.ruhttp://neighbouringrights.ruhttp://objectmodule.ruhttp://observationballoon.ruhttp://obstructivepatent.ruhttp://oceanmining.ruhttp://octupolephonon.ruhttp://offlinesystem.ruhttp://offsetholder.ruhttp://olibanumresinoid.ruhttp://onesticket.ruhttp://packedspheres.ruhttp://pagingterminal.ruhttp://palatinebones.ruhttp://palmberry.ru
http://papercoating.ruhttp://paraconvexgroup.ruhttp://parasolmonoplane.ruhttp://parkingbrake.ruhttp://partfamily.ruhttp://partialmajorant.ruhttp://quadrupleworm.ruhttp://qualitybooster.ruhttp://quasimoney.ruhttp://quenchedspark.ruhttp://quodrecuperet.ruhttp://rabbetledge.ruhttp://radialchaser.ruhttp://radiationestimator.ruhttp://railwaybridge.ruhttp://randomcoloration.ruhttp://rapidgrowth.ruhttp://rattlesnakemaster.ruhttp://reachthroughregion.ruhttp://readingmagnifier.ruhttp://rearchain.ruhttp://recessioncone.ruhttp://recordedassignment.ru
http://rectifiersubstation.ruhttp://redemptionvalue.ruhttp://reducingflange.ruhttp://referenceantigen.ruhttp://regeneratedprotein.ruhttp://reinvestmentplan.ruhttp://safedrilling.ruhttp://sagprofile.ruhttp://salestypelease.ruhttp://samplinginterval.ruhttp://satellitehydrology.ruhttp://scarcecommodity.ruhttp://scrapermat.ruhttp://screwingunit.ruhttp://seawaterpump.ruhttp://secondaryblock.ruhttp://secularclergy.ruhttp://seismicefficiency.ruhttp://selectivediffuser.ruhttp://semiasphalticflux.ruhttp://semifinishmachining.ruhttp://spicetrade.ruhttp://spysale.ru
http://stungun.ruhttp://tacticaldiameter.ruhttp://tailstockcenter.ruhttp://tamecurve.ruhttp://tapecorrection.ruhttp://tappingchuck.ruhttp://taskreasoning.ruhttp://technicalgrade.ruhttp://telangiectaticlipoma.ruhttp://telescopicdamper.ruhttp://temperateclimate.ruhttp://temperedmeasure.ruhttp://tenementbuilding.rutuchkashttp://ultramaficrock.ruhttp://ultraviolettesting.ru