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Did I get swindled
« on: November 09, 2015, 11:54:35 AM »
Recently I acquired a player that should have had  LA8 and PR 3
Well I have this information from the person who sold this player. Before he was selling this player I got interested in "young" GK that could be used for NT. so as a NT manager I asked him about the PR and LA so he told me that this player had PR 3 an LA 8. Then after some time he tried to sell this player, and he was advertising this player to have PR 3 and LA 8 So i bought him and now the scouting report tells me that his PR is 2 and LA 6 but the prediction says that he might go up to 8

So did he lie or is this a game bug


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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2015, 12:50:56 PM »
You should provide people with the player's ID instead of only giving a screenshot.

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2015, 01:08:16 PM »
PR can decrease after 21 years, but his LA is fixed. The only thing that is fixed is his LA, CA can increase above his LA, and with time decrease under his LA. So if the manager told you that his(now yours) player is LA8 with PR3 he clearly lied to you, and you should warn us who is this manager, so we can approach his players with caution.

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 03:12:29 PM »
You should provide people with the player's ID instead of only giving a screenshot.

Sorry here you go

http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=8075445

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PR can decrease after 21 years, but his LA is fixed. The only thing that is fixed is his LA, CA can increase above his LA, and with time decrease under his LA. So if the manager told you that his(now yours) player is LA8 with PR3 he clearly lied to you, and you should warn us who is this manager, so we can approach his players with caution.

No he is 19 YO

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 03:24:03 PM »
You should provide people with the player's ID instead of only giving a screenshot.

Sorry here you go

http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=8075445

8075445

PR can decrease after 21 years, but his LA is fixed. The only thing that is fixed is his LA, CA can increase above his LA, and with time decrease under his LA. So if the manager told you that his(now yours) player is LA8 with PR3 he clearly lied to you, and you should warn us who is this manager, so we can approach his players with caution.

No he is 19 YO

Is there any chances that you misunderstood the seller, often when posting ads for players a lot of managers add the prediction for GKs, as almost always gk goes one ca above la, the price is too  low for him to be LA8 with PR3 gk, as gk are pretty expensive.

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 03:31:42 PM »
Well take a look at our conversation


I don't know looks like his LA was 8

same thing was written on his players page when he was selling this player

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 06:16:51 PM »
There is bit of a bug here. The predictor often over predicts the eventual CA of goalkeepers but I am afraid it is wrong, they will stop developing when CA = LA like all players.

I think you may have to give the benefit of the doubt to the selling manager and assume he didn't know but yes you have been mislead. :(

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2015, 07:04:38 PM »
there is no bug and no misunderstanding at fault for this situation. he clearly wrote LA8 and the print screen clearly shows LA6.

the seller is a liar. no doubt about it. end of story.

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015, 07:56:37 PM »
 ;) Clearly there is something wrong here. The LA says he is a 6 but the prediction of growth puts him at an 8. This is the first time I have seen a player display look like this. I would question admin about the player incase there is a bug.
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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2015, 08:07:34 PM »
;) Clearly there is something wrong here. The LA says he is a 6 but the prediction of growth puts him at an 8. This is the first time I have seen a player display look like this. I would question admin about the player incase there is a bug.

Yes, that's why I'm not making my assumption yet about dishonest seller.

I never seen prediction exceed the LA before, Well I will email admin hope he will come up with a better answer.

However if that is true and I been mislead then I might have a lot of problem in my NT, I might have players that have LA 4 and I been told that they have 9 and 10
 

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2015, 08:38:52 PM »
;) Clearly there is something wrong here. The LA says he is a 6 but the prediction of growth puts him at an 8. This is the first time I have seen a player display look like this. I would question admin about the player incase there is a bug.

Yes, that's why I'm not making my assumption yet about dishonest seller.

I never seen prediction exceed the LA before, Well I will email admin hope he will come up with a better answer.

However if that is true and I been mislead then I might have a lot of problem in my NT, I might have players that have LA 4 and I been told that they have 9 and 10


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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2015, 08:54:15 PM »
mihut

I am impressed and thank you for sharing it, it will help me a lot :)

Although there are few managers out there that I really trust: ???? is one of them he really is a saver

Is that a supporters feature ?
« Last Edit: November 09, 2015, 08:57:22 PM by Levan »

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2015, 08:54:55 PM »
So I had a goalkeeper 7/4. The predictor said he would make it to CA8. I was excited, I thought he would be something special but as soon as he hit LA7 the predictor changed to the normal " this player should see no more improvement" and sure enough is development improvements stopped.

I recall other people mentioning the same. It is a bug and it only applies to goalkeepers

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2015, 09:12:04 PM »
So I had a goalkeeper 7/4. The predictor said he would make it to CA8. I was excited, I thought he would be something special but as soon as he hit LA7 the predictor changed to the normal " this player should see no more improvement" and sure enough is development improvements stopped.

I recall other people mentioning the same. It is a bug and it only applies to goalkeepers

Cheers,
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Well I guess that is the case. I was so happy that Georgias NT can finally get a proper GK
Well at least there is a bright side here. Well at least other managers didn't buy him because of my lead ( I offered few managers this player). Would put me in a bad situation
 

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Re: Did I get swindled
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2015, 07:18:36 AM »
Well take a look at our conversation


I don't know looks like his LA was 8

same thing was written on his players page when he was selling this player

Like Mihut said, his LA is 6, the manager is exploiting this bug in his favour. This is also known as lying. He might reach CA7 if used very often but almost impossible he will reach CA8
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2015, 10:33:35 PM »
Well take a look at our conversation


I don't know looks like his LA was 8

same thing was written on his players page when he was selling this player

Like Mihut said, his LA is 6, the manager is exploiting this bug in his favour. This is also known as lying. He might reach CA7 if used very often but almost impossible he will reach CA8

Well it looks like I been lied to, that sux.



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