Author Topic: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS  (Read 5108 times)

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SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« on: October 31, 2013, 11:36:05 AM »
Is there any possibility for people STOP DOING SPAM in this forum and in each country's chat room for sell your players, don't you have the transfert list for that, please leave the forum and chat rooms for real discussions and don't give them bad use.

Admin should ban these teams too but that is like 'dream with something impossible'.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 11:41:24 AM by loran »

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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 12:05:19 PM »
Is it possibile a ban from chat for the ones who spam with that kind of advertisements?
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 12:49:24 PM »
Is it possibile a ban from chat for the ones who spam with that kind of advertisements?

This is crazy shameful, not only you break the rules of the forum with forbidden spam that besides you want to ban that who denounce the situacion, you are just a regrettable user and person.

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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 01:20:00 PM »
You didn't understand. I am italian, maybe I didn't explained in a correct form.

I am saying that the ones that are constantly using chat for making advertising for their "great sales" should be banned from the chat.

Defintely or temporary isn't truly important but banned.

I guess it should be unfair the ban from game or the money deduction, a simply ban from the chat could be enough.
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2013, 01:23:27 PM »
You didn't understand. I am italian, maybe I didn't explained in a correct form.

I am saying that the ones that are constantly using chat for making advertising for their "great sales" should be banned from the chat.

Defintely or temporary isn't truly important but banned.

I guess it should be unfair the ban from game or the money deduction, a simply ban from the chat could be enough.

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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2013, 02:08:23 PM »
i also hate spaming in chat room, but as long as a user's spam doesn't turn into flooding (repetitive messages more than once) i am afraid that is legal and you can't demand any action at all.
Spamming in forum is okay as long as those messages are placed in the right subforum (Player transfer ads).

That said, if peopke doesn't brake the rules, why should they be banned?

It would be great if people would care other user's right to use chat room only for chatting, if people would always hotlink their players in their messages, we would avoid those problems just filtering out, but people doesn't seem to care if they disturb others, so they hotlink to forun or just place their player's ID without a hotlink at all, as a result spam messages can't be avoided... a user suggested to filter out foreign manager's messages sometime ago, i am starting to think it's not a bad idea.....
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2013, 03:12:58 PM »
 ;) Many managers do use the hot link when posting in the forum and these adds can be filtered. I still believe some managers will intentionally not use the hot links because it is their intention that their adds not be filtered, even if their players are over priced or just of poor quality. It is annoying to managers in many countries and I have personally know of complaints from those in Brazil, USA, Bermuda, Italy and a host of other countries who barely have a chat for talking due to the flooding of player adds.
 :) The chat has other uses than advertising players. Unfortunately, not everyone chooses to act with a measure of decency and don't care about anyone other than themselves. Not much can be done about it, but it is still a problem I will admit.
 :-\ You could try what we did in Bermuda.  In Bermuda, we demand that those leaving adds use tags and also price players reasonably.  We leave these messages in the chat for spammers.  It has some effect but nothing is perfect.  Perhaps this will help in your country.
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2013, 04:53:42 PM »
What's about set one selling room in chat box? Because when I would like to find a sell player. I can see only one room not many country chat room.

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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2013, 05:15:14 PM »
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2013, 05:55:42 PM »
What's about set one selling room in chat box? Because when I would like to find a sell player. I can see only one room not many country chat room.

It's a great idea. It was suggested long time ago (when admin seemed to care our toughts and used to pay some attention here). He said that it was a good idea, but he needed to ask developers about it, he was concerned about possible performance issues.
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 06:49:22 PM »
Well there is -global-  :)
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2013, 04:45:10 AM »
I think if indeed chat feed should not be used to selling players, just delete several icons in the chat feed that makes it easy for managers to peddle the players and then give reminders "please do not use chat feed for selling players, If you want to sell your players, please use forum Transfer Ads Player" :)

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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2013, 07:20:16 PM »


Isn't it a bit excessive?  :-\
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2013, 01:35:15 AM »

Isn't it a bit excessive?  :-\

Yes, but what's even more excessive is that I just got an e-mail of "GOOD PLAYER 4 SELL" because the fool decide to click "Announce Topic" under Additional Options when he made his thread in the 'Transfer Ads' board.

I've been bothered by the constant ramming of player ads down my throat, but this is the first time it's made me yell "Fuck off!"  >:(
« Last Edit: November 02, 2013, 01:37:26 AM by Roostophe »

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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2014, 06:38:23 PM »
Player advers are overwhelming all but the most active nations' chat rooms. These adverts are ruining the chat for many of us. Sadly it is just a handful of managers who repeatedly bombard us with their advertising, rudely omitting at least one player tag in the post so they could be filtered out.

NOW IS THE TIME FOR CHAT MODERATION

Posts containing the following should not be allowed:
1) player ads without at least one player tag in national chat rooms*
2) inflammatory or bigoted remarks
3) spam
4) links to obscene or objectionable content
5) obscene or objectionable manager names
*These might be acceptable in global chat room ONLY

I think moderators would not be banning anyone from chat, but simply deleting posts that violate these rules. Once a manager reaches some threshold of deleted posts in a given time period (for example, 5 posts in one chat room or 20 posts in all chatrooms during a 10 day period), the manager would automatically be banned from one or all chat rooms for some time, say a month for the first time, 3 months for the 2nd infraction, a year for the 3rd, and a permanent chat ban after that. I sincerely hope this feature can be added in time for season 11.
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Re: SPAM, SPAM AND MORE SPAM FOR SELL PLAYERS
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2014, 03:41:05 AM »

Is it possibile a ban from chat for the ones who spam with that kind of advertisements?


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