none 50,000-->50,000
Very Bad 75,000-->100,000
Bad 100,000-->150,000
Okay 150,000-->250,000
Good 200,000-->350,000
Very Good 300,000-->550,000
The Best 500,000-->800,000
...........................................
- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
- After the update we will use different heuristic to calculate the wage for the new contract.
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1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the team that place the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
2. A free agent is a player who is eligible to sign with any club. To get a free agent your team has to offer the highest wage for the player. (The player transfer value is 40 times the offered wage)
I am predicting that many team goes into debt after offering high wages to free agents.
Carlos, I think You'll can set a price what you want even after changes :) So if you want 1 000 kG for player you should set this price now and after changes .
+1I am predicting that many team goes into debt after offering high wages to free agents.
And i am predicting that those who havent improved their academies before 09/09/12 won't get decent money if they sell their players..... i was planning to sell my players close the end of season, with this change... i probably won't get 2M after selling 2 or 3 500K players, because people will offer higher wages, 40% is a gap too high IMHO..... those who made the improvements before, and are prepared to play season 6, already reached a huge gap with the rest. It would be really hard to catch them if we don't get other methods to increase our income.
Carlos, I think You'll can set a price what you want even after changes :) So if you want 1 000 kG for player you should set this price now and after changes .yes, but if now I could get a low price to have a bid war, after I can't risk that...
But I have to agree that prices will be lower in total.
Let me see if i get it right..... if i offer:
Wage: 2.000G
Transfer Fee: 590.000G
I can win an auction to somebody who offered:
Wage: 1.900G
Transfer Fee: 900.000G
I want to understand it right, to translate it properly in local forum.
Let me see if i get it right..... if i offer:
Wage: 2.000G
Transfer Fee: 590.000G
I can win an auction to somebody who offered:
Wage: 1.900G
Transfer Fee: 900.000G
I want to understand it right, to translate it properly in local forum.
me too...the rule is a little unclear to me
but it sounds like a nice improvement
:)
I could ask for 1.000.000G and receive 410.001G for a player, just because somebody offered 1G more in a player's wage?
for me is clear, no dubt, all is clear...Let me see if i get it right..... if i offer:
Wage: 2.000G
Transfer Fee: 590.000G
I can win an auction to somebody who offered:
Wage: 1.900G
Transfer Fee: 900.000G
I want to understand it right, to translate it properly in local forum.
me too...the rule is a little unclear to me
but it sounds like a nice improvement
:)
It is very unclear :( One side we have scouting system another side we have to calculate between wege and price. It will be very hard.
I think we need something like autocalcultor included in bidding page. If we scout the highest offer for a player we can put our offer into calcultor and see how high wage we need to set for wininig.
I could ask for 1.000.000G and receive 410.001G for a player, just because somebody offered 1G more in a player's wage?
Carlos if you ask for 1.000.000G no one can make lower bid, I think.
- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
So.... for now, we have a 25% deduction.... with new changes we'll have a potential 59% deduction for a long time owned player.... (39% gap with the highest bid+20% tax). What's the good news?no Carlos....if you ask 1.000.000 G you receive surely at least 1.000.000 G..
I love the penalty to a recently bought player, and i love the 5% extra to a promoted youth player. But i believe the potential reduction is way too high..... I could ask for 1.000.000G and receive 410.001G for a player, just because somebody offered 1G more in a player's wage? That's not funny at all.
So.... for now, we have a 25% deduction.... with new changes we'll have a potential 59% deduction for a long time owned player.... (39% gap with the highest bid+20% tax). What's the good news?no Carlos....if you ask 1.000.000 G you receive surely at least 1.000.000 G.
I love the penalty to a recently bought player, and i love the 5% extra to a promoted youth player. But i believe the potential reduction is way too high..... I could ask for 1.000.000G and receive 410.001G for a player, just because somebody offered 1G more in a player's wage? That's not funny at all.
Another thing......no...this is a simply thing...- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
I didn't want to menction or ask about it before.... but the last file i translated had some things like "wants to move to a bigger club" or "wants to play more matches"..... does that mean that we will lose players because elements like that?
I don't want to mean this...I mean simply that if you ask a 1M base auction, noone can offer less than 1M...So.... for now, we have a 25% deduction.... with new changes we'll have a potential 59% deduction for a long time owned player.... (39% gap with the highest bid+20% tax). What's the good news?no Carlos....if you ask 1.000.000 G you receive surely at least 1.000.000 G.
I love the penalty to a recently bought player, and i love the 5% extra to a promoted youth player. But i believe the potential reduction is way too high..... I could ask for 1.000.000G and receive 410.001G for a player, just because somebody offered 1G more in a player's wage? That's not funny at all.
No, at the very least will receive 850.000G if the player were promoted from my academy.
Poll. New transfer system :D:P :P :P :P
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the team that place the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
Another question would be.... what will our scout's duty? Will they calculate max wage and transfer fee?
none 50,000-->50,000
Very Bad 75,000-->100,000
Bad 100,000-->150,000
Okay 150,000-->250,000
Good 200,000-->350,000
Very Good 300,000-->550,000
The Best 500,000-->800,000
...........................................
- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
- After the update we will use different heuristic to calculate the wage for the new contract.
...........................................
Admin, changes in wage budget suggest that wages will be higher.... have you consider increasing incomes from hotel/bar/megastore?
are wages going to be higher or slower?higher...
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
2. A free agent is a player who is eligible to sign with any club. To get a free agent your team has to offer the highest wage for the player. (The player transfer value is 40 times the offered wage)
3. Transfer value when selling a free agent depends on the length that he stay with your team as follows :
- 10% of the transfer value for the first season.
- 30% of the transfer value for the second season.
- Use the rule from (1) to determine the transfer value for the third season and so on.
?Quote1. You will receive 35% of the transfer value when selling a newly bought player. The longer the length that the bought player stay with the team, the lower the
transfer fee. You will receive at most 80% of the transfer value if he stay in your team long enough.
On what depends player's wage we pay now?
On what depends player's wage we pay now?
ok ill ask. player wage depends on his value and performance i think. so it should be able to offer a decent wage when buying a player and then simply to renew his contract
- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
Admin, you just make transfer system too complicated, that not good for all managers, including existing and potential new managers. A certain number of managers will give up because of these.
Anyway, good luck!!!!
I hate the new system very much ?the change about wage and bid is just complicate but no use. And it will destroy the game because change is too big and the direction of the change is wrong.
The change of translation tax may be have some advantage. This change have a good direction but the change is too big and the punishment of translation is to much that almost no people can benefit.
Both these changes are blowing the translation and try to limit translation completely?this will strongly knock the interest of the active player and finally destroy the game.
keep existing bid systemPool has already been posted
+1
please admin add a voting
All the change sounds good except taking count wage into transfer system. It makes transfer system too complicated. We have to consider too much things before we make a bid.:-* :-\ 8) ;D
We also have to wait till last second to make sure we can buy a player we want since the highest wage is shown. If a manager doesn't want to wait till last second. I promise he can't buy any players successfully. Please respect the fact that major of managers don't want to wait till last second to make a bid. Major of managers don't like this change.
Counting WAGE in transfer system is a nightmare to major of managers and may be only few manager will happy with this. ADMIN, please remove wage from transfer system. It will definitely destroy this game. You should try simplify this things to make sure new managers can understand the game as soon as possible.
The player transfer system will be changed as follows (Launch date : 09/09/2012) :In my opinion, 35% is too little, you better move than 50%. ;) :D
Buying player will categorised into 2 categories 1. Auction system 2. Free agent
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
2. A free agent is a player who is eligible to sign with any club. To get a free agent your team has to offer the highest wage for the player. (The player transfer value is 40 times the offered wage)
.............................................................
Transfer fee will be changed as follows :
1. You will receive 35% of the transfer value when selling a newly bought player. The longer the length that the bought player stay with the team, the lower the
transfer fee. You will receive at most 80% of the transfer value if he stay in your team long enough.
2. You receive 5% bonus of the transfer value when selling a player, which is promoted from your academy.
Example : player1 promoted from A Club -> Transfer to B -> A receive 80%+5%=85% of the transfer value
3. Transfer value when selling a free agent depends on the length that he stay with your team as follows :
- 10% of the transfer value for the first season.
- 30% of the transfer value for the second season.
- Use the rule from (1) to determine the transfer value for the third season and so on.
Remarks :
- Rule (1) will be applied for all players that stay with your team before 09/09/2012.
This mean that you receive 80%-85% by selling any player (promoted from academy or bought from transfer market)
that is in your squad before 09/09/2012.
- Wage budget of the player room will be increased as follows
none 50,000-->50,000
Very Bad 75,000-->100,000
Bad 100,000-->150,000
Okay 150,000-->250,000
Good 200,000-->350,000
Very Good 300,000-->550,000
The Best 500,000-->800,000
...........................................
- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
- After the update we will use different heuristic to calculate the wage for the new contract.
...........................................
----Estimate value
- introduced the concept of CA(current ability) and LA(limited ability)
- Caculated from CA, age, experience, and progress rate
Would it be wise to renew contracts for players with less than 3 years left now?
Should we renew contracts for players that are unhappy now?
Would it be wise to renew contracts for players with less than 3 years left now?
Probably, wages might be higher and you will NOT be able to renew them until they've got only one year left or your player becomes unhappy. I mean, you will not be able to renew their contract if your player don't request it.Should we renew contracts for players that are unhappy now?
Thanks ;)
Yes, you should.
Another question would be.... what will our scout's duty? Will they calculate max wage and transfer fee?
Scout is use to estimate the max bid but the max wage will be shown.
i do not understand this ( (Free Player Fee = Wage x 40 ) . why we cant make an offer but just a wage ( at free players ) ???
what kind of engineer is who has developed this new transfert system?, perhaps an etilic monkey?. oh my god!!!New transfer system is very good.I just want to complain about biding. WE MUST SEE MAXIMUM PRIZE. Look...
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
Now I'm regretting letting some of my better players go because it will be hard to make up money in the short term.
I have made 1 933 721 from sales since 22/07. It took me AGES to get that kind of money before.nothing special I made 2,2 mln in this season , in season 5 it was 7,5 mln!!! Good youth and good trained players makes profits :) Agree that well developed teams have easy way to make money, now. And inflation is still high. Two seasons ago I can strenghten my team for 1 mln G, now if I want do that it will cost me 2,5-3 mln.
ADMIN I have some question??
about 40% of maxbid
maxbid is maxbid to 0 or max-min
if i sell player min price is 10K
A bid 20K(maximun) wage 2k
B bid 10K(50% of max bid) wage 2.2K
C bid 14K(40% of max-min) bid wage 2.1k
who will get this player???? ::)
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
- You can only renew a player's contract if he request for a new contract or the remaining contract of him is only 1 year and he is still happy with your team.
Well i renew the contracts to 2-3 players(they had 2-3 seasons left on contract) after the update....I guess nothing is changed about that?
ADMIN I have some question??
about 40% of maxbid
maxbid is maxbid to 0 or max-min
if i sell player min price is 10K
A bid 20K(maximun) wage 2k
B bid 10K(50% of max bid) wage 2.2K
C bid 14K(40% of max-min) bid wage 2.1k
who will get this player???? ::)
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
If i sell player miin price
So B will get this player :)....and If C bid 14K (40% of max bid) & bid wage 2.3K ---> of course C will be winner ;)
ADMIN I have some question??
about 40% of maxbid
maxbid is maxbid to 0 or max-min
if i sell player min price is 10K
A bid 20K(maximun) wage 2k
B bid 10K(50% of max bid) wage 2.2K
C bid 14K(40% of max-min) bid wage 2.1k
who will get this player???? ::)
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
If i sell player miin price
So B will get this player :)....and If C bid 14K (40% of max bid) & bid wage 2.3K ---> of course C will be winner ;)
If B get;when i sell player min price at 1 M ;I think no one will bid more than 1 M right?
If C get; it can auction for 40 % of maximun bit - min price ; as 1.1M 2K , 1.04M 2.1K i think it better ::)
ADMIN I have some question??
about 40% of maxbid
maxbid is maxbid to 0 or max-min
if i sell player min price is 10K
A bid 20K(maximun) wage 2k
B bid 10K(50% of max bid) wage 2.2K
C bid 14K(40% of max-min) bid wage 2.1k
who will get this player???? ::)
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
So B will get this player :)....and If C bid 14K (40% of max bid) & bid wage 2.3K ---> of course C will be winner ;)
1. A player will remain in the transfer market for 3 days. Team that offer the highest wage for the player, in the mean time, place the bid not less than 40% of the highest bid will get the player. (2 offers : wage + bid)
So B will get this player :)....and If C bid 14K (40% of max bid) & bid wage 2.3K ---> of course C will be winner ;)
With my understanding of the system and assuming each of the three bids are made, C would win the player since B's bid (10k) is less than 40% of the max bid (20k) and has the larger salary bid.
- Wage budget of the player room will be increased as follows
none 50,000-->50,000
Very Bad 75,000-->100,000
Bad 100,000-->150,000
Okay 150,000-->250,000
Good 200,000-->350,000
Very Good 300,000-->550,000
The Best 500,000-->800,000
just for fun :) http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=5351340
GK wage 100,000G lol
maybe the admin could do a big vote in which he would ask if the managers prefer this transfer system or the old one?Old one is bigger bullshit. My Propose is Hattrick system and I think its the most fair transfer system in whole world.
Old one is bigger bullshit. My Propose is Hattrick system and I think its the most fair transfer system in whole world.
1. Every manager set Minimum Prize for his Player
2. Current Maximum Bid and the team that placed bid is visible
3. Next Bid must be higher minimum for some percent (2%,3%,4%,5%) than previous one
4. To stop "last second bid" Transfer Time-out extends for another 3 minutes if bid is placed < 3 minutes to Time-out (Time-out is 12:34:00, bid is placed at 12:33:12,than new time-out time is 12:36:12),until all give-up from bidding
5. Wage can be calculated from formula that include player rating,Experience,Age,CA,LA.
With this system we can get real auction,which is better than old one when player is placed for 500 000,then come guy place Bid to 3 000 000 to distract other players,wait until the end of auction and then set prize to 500 000 and buy player. It's stupid. One time placed bid could just change with higher one,not lower one. So admin must join to this polemic at the end,not just reading this and doing nothing.
maybe the admin could do a big vote in which he would ask if the managers prefer this transfer system or the old one?Old one is bigger bullshit. My Propose is Hattrick system and I think its the most fair transfer system in whole world.
1. Every manager set Minimum Prize for his Player
2. Current Maximum Bid and the team that placed bid is visible
3. Next Bid must be higher minimum for some percent (2%,3%,4%,5%) than previous one
4. To stop "last second bid" Transfer Time-out extends for another 3 minutes if bid is placed < 3 minutes to Time-out (Time-out is 12:34:00, bid is placed at 12:33:12,than new time-out time is 12:36:12),until all give-up from bidding
5. Wage can be calculated from formula that include player rating,Experience,Age,CA,LA.
With this system we can get real auction,which is better than old one when player is placed for 500 000,then come guy place Bid to 3 000 000 to distract other players,wait until the end of auction and then set prize to 500 000 and buy player. It's stupid. One time placed bid could just change with higher one,not lower one. So admin must join to this polemic at the end,not just reading this and doing nothing.
maybe the admin could do a big vote in which he would ask if the managers prefer this transfer system or the old one?Old one is bigger bullshit. My Propose is Hattrick system and I think its the most fair transfer system in whole world.
1. Every manager set Minimum Prize for his Player
2. Current Maximum Bid and the team that placed bid is visible
3. Next Bid must be higher minimum for some percent (2%,3%,4%,5%) than previous one
4. To stop "last second bid" Transfer Time-out extends for another 3 minutes if bid is placed < 3 minutes to Time-out (Time-out is 12:34:00, bid is placed at 12:33:12,than new time-out time is 12:36:12),until all give-up from bidding
5. Wage can be calculated from formula that include player rating,Experience,Age,CA,LA.
With this system we can get real auction,which is better than old one when player is placed for 500 000,then come guy place Bid to 3 000 000 to distract other players,wait until the end of auction and then set prize to 500 000 and buy player. It's stupid. One time placed bid could just change with higher one,not lower one. So admin must join to this polemic at the end,not just reading this and doing nothing.
maybe the admin could do a big vote in which he would ask if the managers prefer this transfer system or the old one?Old one is bigger bullshit. My Propose is Hattrick system and I think its the most fair transfer system in whole world.
1. Every manager set Minimum Prize for his Player
2. Current Maximum Bid and the team that placed bid is visible
3. Next Bid must be higher minimum for some percent (2%,3%,4%,5%) than previous one
4. To stop "last second bid" Transfer Time-out extends for another 3 minutes if bid is placed < 3 minutes to Time-out (Time-out is 12:34:00, bid is placed at 12:33:12,than new time-out time is 12:36:12),until all give-up from bidding
5. Wage can be calculated from formula that include player rating,Experience,Age,CA,LA.
With this system we can get real auction,which is better than old one when player is placed for 500 000,then come guy place Bid to 3 000 000 to distract other players,wait until the end of auction and then set prize to 500 000 and buy player. It's stupid. One time placed bid could just change with higher one,not lower one. So admin must join to this polemic at the end,not just reading this and doing nothing.
1. Every manager set Minimum Prize for his Player
2. Current Maximum Bid and the team that placed bid is visible
3. Next Bid must be higher minimum for some percent (2%,3%,4%,5%) than previous one
4. To stop "last second bid" Transfer Time-out extends for another 3 minutes if bid is placed < 3 minutes to Time-out (Time-out is 12:34:00, bid is placed at 12:33:12,than new time-out time is 12:36:12),until all give-up from bidding
5. Wage can be calculated from formula that include player rating,Experience,Age,CA,LA.
With this system we can get real auction,which is better than old one when player is placed for 500 000,then come guy place Bid to 3 000 000 to distract other players,wait until the end of auction and then set prize to 500 000 and buy player. It's stupid. One time placed bid could just change with higher one,not lower one. So admin must join to this polemic at the end,not just reading this and doing nothing.
That would stop people from bidding 3mil and then changing it to 500k at the last minute while at the same time stop the problem of auctions going on and on with people bidding at the last minute.
That would stop people from bidding 3mil and then changing it to 500k at the last minute while at the same time stop the problem of auctions going on and on with people bidding at the last minute.
Or you can let people only increase a bid, and not reduce it. Simple, efficient and serious.
Anyway, this new system is going to kill many teams... i just sold a 4/4/2 player (valued 340k), the buyer paid 240k but his wage is 4.444G, that is ridiculous! Is that hard to realize that the market is beign destroyed?
2. A free agent is a player who is eligible to sign with any club. To get a free agent your team has to offer the highest wage for the player. (The player transfer value is 40 times the offered wage)
is the information here updated? :-\ Admin?
megalol. Now you can check your player level. Just put him at transferlist and choose search by level.
One change makes people happy.
Sorry for being rude, but I think this transfer system is bullshit... :o
This system is highly hard for servers and need users to be on -line when aucion is ending. I see that in HT is assistant manager - you can set a highest price you want to pay for a player.Ruta,I sometimes woke up at 3 AM, 4 AM,if I really want player,but there is now this Assistant thing which is great. :)
I like it :)
like the idea so much 8)This system is highly hard for servers and need users to be on -line when aucion is ending. I see that in HT is assistant manager - you can set a highest price you want to pay for a player.Ruta,I sometimes woke up at 3 AM, 4 AM,if I really want player,but there is now this Assistant thing which is great. :)
I like it :)
NEXT:
1. When you buy new player when you resell it you got about 85+ % which is rising as player is longer in your team.
2. Parent club get one defined percent (small amount 1% for example) of transfer every time that player is trensfered ( big satisfaction for building academies, and easier to give up of good players in your team - on market will be more better players).
3. Previous club get one defined percent of transfer (small amount 2-3% for example) ONLY ON NEXT TRANSFER. Example. Player X transfered from club A to B. After some time player X is transfered from B to C,then team A get 2-3% from that sum as previous club.
This is functioning perfectly on Hattrick. No one is dissatisfied. It's fair enough. ;)
Proposal to increase the initial percentage when selling players just promoted from the academy: