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General Category => ARCHIVE => Topic started by: admin on February 26, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
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Welcome to the season 5 of Gokickoff, which we introduce some new features as follows
1. Chance of injury from daily training
2. Some players are more prone to injury than others.
3. There are 3 achievement levels of daily training, which are "Bad", "Okay", and "Good". The more accomplishment, the more bonus a player gains.
If a player get(s) a good training result, he gets training bonus no matter his LA > 7 or CA >= LA. However, he gets less training bonus than a player whose CA < LA.
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More over, we have developed the Premium Account features, which enrich your game experience and makes your Gokickoff life more pleasurable and enjoyable.
Some examples of Premium Account features are ...
- In-depth Analyser which analyses your team and your opponents advising you to set up a successfull team
- Advanced statistics and match info
- Allowed to host a tournament.
- No banners
- Much more and more upcoming features in the future.
We let you get these features for 30 days (Free) !!! You may view furthur details of Gokickoff Premium Account here. (http://www.gokickoff.com/prem_detail.php)
Feel free to give suggestions to Gokickoff. We do appreciate your support.
Thank you for playing Gokickoff
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anything about loan players?
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i'm interesting in loan from bank but still premium account is expensive. i thought this price we should get 2D or 3D feature. what do you think?
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anything about loan players?
Did you read premium features?
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anything about loan players?
Did you read premium features?
good point
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:)
admin, is it possible now to adapt player for another position? This Adaption rate (1-20) is confusing me...
And yes, premium is too expensive, unfortunately. I would like to help Gokickoff, but it is too much. Maybe you should make something like "Donate" button?
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IMHO, I'm discouraged by the way premium feature turns out.
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We've reconsidered and decided to drop down the price to about half of the original price as follows.
3 month 14.99 euro
6 month 27.99 euro
12 month 39.99 euro
24 month 74.99 euro
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what training bonnus will get players from custom cups/leagues?
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how to start custom cup ? it is full and not starting
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Now the prize is more reasonable although I think Is a little high for a game however still enough new.. But we see how react various users when it comes time to pay ;)
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I hope u drop down the price even more cause the cheaper it is - the more people get it = more profit : ]
In hattrick at least supporter for 3 months is 10 euro xD
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premium ID too expensive a price ? ::) ::)
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how to start custom cup ? it is full and not starting
I think that Custom cup games is playing on Tuesday 8)
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i think same curency or even price for all countries arent good. it easer to earn 1 euro in europe than, lets say ,in africa or asia.
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Sorry but IMHO, more than 30 euros per year is definately too expensiv for such kind of game.
I am usually suscribing premium account ( and I am in Sokker and OSM ), but here I won't .
Anyway this is not only a price question, some game aspects are not satisfying.
And moreover, paying user have now really a big advantage in game, so I am considering to leave this game.
i think same curency or even price for all countries arent good. it easer to earn 1 euro in europe than, lets say ,in africa or asia.
I am not sure that game admins are interested by african currencies.
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I am not sure that game admins are interested by african currencies.
But south american, i'm sure they do....
1 year suscription = About 234 Argentinian pesos..... it's a bit expensive...... but i believe i'm going to purchase it, if i get an international credit card.
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i think same curency or even price for all countries arent good. it easer to earn 1 euro in europe than, lets say ,in africa or asia.
I apsolutely agree.
For someone in Bosnia 40 Euros is 1/5 of salary. It's expensive!!!
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how to start custom cup ? it is full and not starting
It will be automatically started about 4UTC of Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
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Sorry but IMHO, more than 30 euros per year is definately too expensiv for such kind of game.
I am usually suscribing premium account ( and I am in Sokker and OSM ), but here I won't .
Anyway this is not only a price question, some game aspects are not satisfying.
And moreover, paying user have now really a big advantage in game, so I am considering to leave this game.
i think same curency or even price for all countries arent good. it easer to earn 1 euro in europe than, lets say ,in africa or asia.
I am not sure that game admins are interested by african currencies.
Developing the premium account features are an ongoing process.
We may remove some features and add some features in the future.
For now, we have remove the loan money feature.
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Admin, what is energy recovery rate for premium users?
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Admin, what is energy recovery rate for premium users?
twice as normal, that seems to be 3 min per energy...
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And what about chairman feature?
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For now, we have remove the loan money feature.
Good call. 8)
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Dear owners,
Nice try but i aint buying a game where u can have multiple accounts when there is already a lot of cheating going on. Especially for this price.
?f this turns out to be a major disadvantage for the normal users in the future im outta here.
Still, thx for the all the fun untill now.
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Application fee :
(45% of the total amount of fees awarded to the winner)
(20% of the total amount of fees awarded to the runner up)
Admin, what happens with the 35% left?
The Gokickoff recycle that :)
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Dear owners,
Nice try but i aint buying a game where u can have multiple accounts when there is already a lot of cheating going on. Especially for this price.
?f this turns out to be a major disadvantage for the normal users in the future im outta here.
Still, thx for the all the fun untill now.
We are trying as hard as possible to clear all the cheaters.
Some cheaters are not banned but their budget have already been deducted.
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This seems so very very wrong.
You can pay real cash for more youths :-[
What on earth is that analysis page about? My MSc isn't enough to understand it, maybe I need a PhD?
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Also, if I go to the bother of searching the IP Addresses for the Managers in my Division, will you delete the foreign ones, if they are not Premium?
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OMG What you did with academy and youths ::)
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Dear owners,
Nice try but i aint buying a game where u can have multiple accounts when there is already a lot of cheating going on. Especially for this price.
?f this turns out to be a major disadvantage for the normal users in the future im outta here.
Still, thx for the all the fun untill now.
We are trying as hard as possible to clear all the cheaters.
Some cheaters are not banned but their budget have already been deducted.
I hope. In german Bundesliga there are two teams playing together against other strong teams in the league, using mots for beneficiate their teams, sometimes using same IPs, both are from poland, both use same tactics, one of them was german coach and used to take his other team's bad players to the national team for give them more training.
All these things are denounced in their team site several weeks ago, but no answer. It's better to repair those things before offer us the posibility of pay for get better features.
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This seems so very very wrong.
You can pay real cash for more youths :-[
What on earth is that analysis page about? My MSc isn't enough to understand it, maybe I need a PhD?
Each team can increase their quota up to only 15 players, which doesn't give it that much advantages.
We may simplify the analysis page later. I have already sent your suggestion to the team.
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Dear owners,
Nice try but i aint buying a game where u can have multiple accounts when there is already a lot of cheating going on. Especially for this price.
?f this turns out to be a major disadvantage for the normal users in the future im outta here.
Still, thx for the all the fun untill now.
We are trying as hard as possible to clear all the cheaters.
Some cheaters are not banned but their budget have already been deducted.
I hope. In german Bundesliga there are two teams playing together against other strong teams in the league, using mots for beneficiate their teams, sometimes using same IPs, both are from poland, both use same tactics, one of them was german coach and used to take his other team's bad players to the national team for give them more training.
All these things are denounced in their team site several weeks ago, but no answer. It's better to repair those things before offer us the posibility of pay for get better features.
Kindly report cheaters to gokickoff[at]gmail.com
Cheers.
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Admin, if you can accept my humble opinion..... you are giving too many info about other teams to premium account users..... even if i'm willing to become supporter, it's too much!
I can understand that you receive a great report from your team, that's great, fair and can save you some "excel work"..... but letting premium users know what tactic you use, what are your rival team's weaknesses and strong points is too much...... plus, the Game stats (http://www.gokickoff.com/prem_game_stat.php) allows you to see LA and PR fully accurated.... let them use the scout for free, it's almost the same, but at least they must calculate a rival's weak spot and they must spend some money to improve it.....
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+1
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Dear owners,
Nice try but i aint buying a game where u can have multiple accounts when there is already a lot of cheating going on. Especially for this price.
?f this turns out to be a major disadvantage for the normal users in the future im outta here.
Still, thx for the all the fun untill now.
We are trying as hard as possible to clear all the cheaters.
Some cheaters are not banned but their budget have already been deducted.
I hope. In german Bundesliga there are two teams playing together against other strong teams in the league, using mots for beneficiate their teams, sometimes using same IPs, both are from poland, both use same tactics, one of them was german coach and used to take his other team's bad players to the national team for give them more training.
All these things are denounced in their team site several weeks ago, but no answer. It's better to repair those things before offer us the posibility of pay for get better features.
Kindly report cheaters to gokickoff[at]gmail.com
Cheers.
Team Overview/Report Cheatars.
Does this option is it useful? I report so many cheaters accounts with this option ( same IP, same manager, same alias,......) and has not done anything. Not banned any teams. :o
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Can you make the DAO PAY (Pay by phone) way to buy premium and tokens , because Kosovo state dont have postal codes or somethink so we cant buy by credit card?!
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Paying for the game should be only beeing supporter of the game. And I am always paying for this , as soon as it doesnt give any real advantage in the game, just confort, and as soon as the fee is reasonable ( around 30e / year ).
RIght now, paying users have more energy, doesnt care about injury, have more youths etc.... Sorry but this is not acceptable at all , even if I can afford it beeing in a developped country.
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Admin, if you can accept my humble opinion..... you are giving too many info about other teams to premium account users..... even if i'm willing to become supporter, it's too much!
I can understand that you receive a great report from your team, that's great, fair and can save you some "excel work"..... but letting premium users know what tactic you use, what are your rival team's weaknesses and strong points is too much...... plus, the Game stats (http://www.gokickoff.com/prem_game_stat.php) allows you to see LA and PR fully accurated.... let them use the scout for free, it's almost the same, but at least they must calculate a rival's weak spot and they must spend some money to improve it.....
What are your rival team's weaknesses and strong points is too much ->
This only refers to the weaknesses from their previous matches not the current weakness.
Additionally, it shows the data in a broad range, which is not as accurate as your team.
In real football, we know the weaknesses of the opponents roughly.
http://www.gokickoff.com/prem_team_ana.php
http://www.gokickoff.com/prem_next_ana.php
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This seems so very very wrong.
You can pay real cash for more youths :-[
What on earth is that analysis page about? My MSc isn't enough to understand it, maybe I need a PhD?
Each team can increase their quota up to only 15 players, which doesn't give it that much advantages.
We may simplify the analysis page later. I have already sent your suggestion to the team.
We do believe it doesn't affect the balance of the game since paying tokens doesn't increase the chance to get a good player at all.
Besides, we limit the quota to 15, which in that number you may get only a few decent players.
Don't worry about this.
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Can you make the DAO PAY (Pay by phone) way to buy premium and tokens , because Kosovo state dont have postal codes or somethink so we cant buy by credit card?!
We will add this payment gateway in the future.
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In real football, we know the weaknesses of the opponents roughly.
Okay, you're probably right.... i'm still not sure.....
Admin, i have a doubt:
16. The energy of a premium user is regenerated faster. The energy bar of him is twice the size of those of normal users.
Normal users have 100 energy points and their energy recovers 1 point every 6 minutes..... premium users have 200 points, how faster does it recover?
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In real football, we know the weaknesses of the opponents roughly.
Okay, you're probably right.... i'm still not sure.....
Admin, i have a doubt:
16. The energy of a premium user is regenerated faster. The energy bar of him is twice the size of those of normal users.
Normal users have 100 energy points and their energy recovers 1 point every 6 minutes..... premium users have 200 points, how faster does it recover?
1 point every 3 minutes.
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Tnx :)
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CarlosT is right
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Dear owners,
Nice try but i aint buying a game where u can have multiple accounts when there is already a lot of cheating going on. Especially for this price.
?f this turns out to be a major disadvantage for the normal users in the future im outta here.
Still, thx for the all the fun untill now.
We are trying as hard as possible to clear all the cheaters.
Some cheaters are not banned but their budget have already been deducted.
I hope. In german Bundesliga there are two teams playing together against other strong teams in the league, using mots for beneficiate their teams, sometimes using same IPs, both are from poland, both use same tactics, one of them was german coach and used to take his other team's bad players to the national team for give them more training.
All these things are denounced in their team site several weeks ago, but no answer. It's better to repair those things before offer us the posibility of pay for get better features.
Kindly report cheaters to gokickoff[at]gmail.com
Cheers.
Team Overview/Report Cheatars.
Does this option is it useful? I report so many cheaters accounts with this option ( same IP, same manager, same alias,......) and has not done anything. Not banned any teams. :o
It is working but you can send an email to us as well.
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Don't tell me you can play now. There are many problems!!
Many webpages have something wrong!
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Admin, we have been testing loan feature, it's very interesting..... a shame that only prepaid premium users will be able to use it...
But that's not my point.... i wanted to suggest 2 things:
Just testing, i placed a player in loan list, a friend made an offer to see what happens.... i have not been notified that i received an offer (a message would be nice) and my friend left me a message, there's not enough place to see a medium/large message. Could you please fix them?
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WOW...so many new features...it's overwhelming! Way to go admin...great work!
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Admin, we have been testing loan feature, it's very interesting..... a shame that only prepaid premium users will be able to use it...
But that's not my point.... i wanted to suggest 2 things:
Just testing, i placed a player in loan list, a friend made an offer to see what happens.... i have not been notified that i received an offer (a message would be nice) and my friend left me a message, there's not enough place to see a medium/large message. Could you please fix them?
CarlosT? Everything is all right for you to play? Why? We can't see some webpages... We even can not see our players... All Chinese gamers have this problem.
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WOW...so many new features...it's overwhelming! Way to go admin...great work!
WHY? All of you can play normally....
What's wrong with china?
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WOW...so many new features...it's overwhelming! Way to go admin...great work!
WHY? All of you can play normally....
What's wrong with china?
smth wrong with saving training but rest looks good
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Also, if I go to the bother of searching the IP Addresses for the Managers in my Division, will you delete the foreign ones, if they are not Premium?
And this bit?
(Paying to be "in" a different Country is pretty daft, imho.)
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WOW...so many new features...it's overwhelming! Way to go admin...great work!
WHY? All of you can play normally....
What's wrong with china?
smth wrong with saving training but rest looks good
OMG!! You mean there's something wrong with china...Maybe we can't play GKO any more...
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This seems so very very wrong.
You can pay real cash for more youths :-[
Each team can increase their quota up to only 15 players, which doesn't give it that much advantages.
You are joking Admin, aren't you? With features like this you killed fairness in this game. Now everything is possible for money. Someone can get 15 youngsters and buy them a credit coach. For 2 or 3 seasons is possible to build a super team. I'm sad cause I love this game, but I must think about quiting. Now no matter how I' ll try to be the best, someone else just can buy everything!!
PS. And those yougsters can get a trainig from custom cup, also!!
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i agree with ruta...
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good work admin
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You are joking Admin, aren't you? With features like this you killed fairness in this game. Now everything is possible for money. Someone can get 15 youngsters and buy them a credit coach. For 2 or 3 seasons is possible to build a super team. I'm sad cause I love this game, but I must think about quiting. Now no matter how I' ll try to be the best, someone else just can buy everything!!
PS. And those yougsters can get a trainig from custom cup, also!!
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+1
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The tokens should be deleted... Or in worst case you can only let Premium Account Packages with current options. And they'll receive tokens only if they buy the 12 months package and 24 months package. It will be much more fair for everyone.
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Good job, I will pay for a premium account as fast as possible, even thought it's a bit expensive.
Admin, what about a lifetime premium membership for a limited time only?
Think about it ;)
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ALL FEATURES...SIMPLY FANTASTIC! Congrats to the staff ;)
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+1 Ruta
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any game where paying real money you get advantages in this case, in form of more youths, can be accepted. very big mistake. with this situation many managers are unhappy and less of them will buy premium account, but that is your problem. it's a big disappointment, it could happen and it has happened. very sad.
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Good job, I will pay for a premium account as fast as possible, even thought it's a bit expensive.
Admin, what about a lifetime premium membership for a limited time only?
Think about it ;)
+1
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I agree with carlos and ruta too. premium account is supposed to support game like let save tactics, set some friendlies in advance and etc. What tactic i am using is my personal thing and now it can turn against myself. we have been waiting for a month, a month! there is no similar game where anyone should wait a month for a new season, and now we can buy players for a money. i do understand that you dont wanna work for ,thanks, but how can we buy premium account if we dont even know if this game wont shut down
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17. A premium user is allowed to join league in any country.
what means this point of premium account features?.
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Can GKs get injury on this season?
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17. A premium user is allowed to join league in any country.
what means this point of premium account features?.
It meams that even You are from Spain You can choose a Germany for playing
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Im very dissapointed about Premium features. It gives ALOT of unfair advantage against non paying users. Im spending hundreds euros for web browser games (yes >,<) and I have to say price is ok for me, but features for PRO users make me feel bad if I use them... Its so unfair,
- 8 more youth pulls. Cmon, you say its not that much advantage? You say its same chance to get high potential player? Heh for me its twice more, just for tokens - real money.
- tokens - this is just fail, I can buy myself 120 tokens and boom I have 3 superb trainers, just for less than 59.99E. Its like I just buy 3 x 700k coaches which saves me 2,1mil. I don't think its fair.
- Analyse tool - cool and long awaited, but it went not so good, the informations it give to us is just easy win, check the sum and pick the right tactic and player. I was waiting for something like, how many passes player made (long ball, short pass etc), how the goals were scored. Something that Assistaint traineer gives to manager and then he figure out what to do. Now its too simple.
Analysing next opponent - just fail for me, too easy.
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Im very dissapointed about Premium features. It gives ALOT of unfair advantage against non paying users. Im spending hundreds euros for web browser games (yes >,<) and I have to say price is ok for me, but features for PRO users make me feel bad if I use them... Its so unfair,
- 8 more youth pulls. Cmon, you say its not that much advantage? You say its same chance to get high potential player? Heh for me its twice more, just for tokens - real money.
- tokens - this is just fail, I can buy myself 120 tokens and boom I have 3 superb trainers, just for less than 59.99E. Its like I just buy 3 x 700k coaches which saves me 2,1mil. I don't think its fair.
- Analyse tool - cool and long awaited, but it went not so good, the informations it give to us is just easy win, check the sum and pick the right tactic and player. I was waiting for something like, how many passes player made (long ball, short pass etc), how the goals were scored. Something that Assistaint traineer gives to manager and then he figure out what to do. Now its too simple.
Analysing next opponent - just fail for me, too easy.
+1
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Can GKs get injury on this season?
Yes, during training sessions.......
And that's one of the things that had me worried when we didn't have any info last season, if i would know that this season i might need 2 keepers, i would have kept the other..... now i must improve a new young GK or fin another one in transfer market.
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I agree with sapero
yeah,I agree with that, the coach problem is not the key, 15 younth ? Oh my god ,are you kidding me? NO No NO ,It shocked me!!!!!!!the balance has been broken seriously, as my idea, Token system must be canceled ! or not so many people will queit the ganme, at least half!
by the way < we still can't play the game now in china!
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Admin.... have you removed Mini-Game?
If so, is there any way to get credits (excepting the refferering new users or exchange for tokens)?
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I may be wrong, but I believe the Mini-game only appears a few days before the first league match. I'd expect it around 2 March....
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For me:
The main mistake is that other players can see my tactics.
It always was a mistery to try to understand the way the others players make their tactics.
15 players promoted for the academy is too much, I think that one or two more than the others is the correct amount. Because if ia have a good academy, ya can promote good players, right? then I can sell them in a high price, so i can get a lot of additional G to upgrade things or buy expensive players. Is the same tha if you can buy G with tokens, I think its not fair.
I apreciate if somebody can teach me how to use de Team Report, because i don't understand it.
The rest of the things upgraded in this seasson are ok for me, it's more fit for active users
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I agree with sapero
yeah,I agree with that, the coach problem is not the key, 15 younth ? Oh my god ,are you kidding me? NO No NO ,It shocked me!!!!!!!the balance has been broken seriously, as my idea, Token system must be canceled ! or not so many people will queit the ganme, at least half!
by the way < we still can't play the game now in china!
For me:
The main mistake is that other players can see my tactics.
It always was a mistery to try to understand the way the others players make their tactics.
15 players promoted for the academy is too much, I think that one or two more than the others is the correct amount. Because if ia have a good academy, ya can promote good players, right? then I can sell them in a high price, so i can get a lot of additional G to upgrade things or buy expensive players. Is the same tha if you can buy G with tokens, I think its not fair.
I apreciate if somebody can teach me how to use de Team Report, because i don't understand it.
The rest of the things upgraded in this seasson are ok for me, it's more fit for active users
I think the token feature has pros and cons it's self. ;)
More you hire credit coach, more salary you have to paid weekly (and it's quite a lot) . ::)
Every quota in academy has risk. I think that 8 youth quotas can generate just 1-3 potential players.
You don't paid for a good potential youth but you paid for a chance to get him.
And don't forget that every risky chance cost you 8 tokens.
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Admin.... have you removed Mini-Game?
If so, is there any way to get credits (excepting the refferering new users or exchange for tokens)?
We didn't remove the mini-game.
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thats it?its all admin can say?
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What about re-aligning the clock. 8)
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Admin, is there more changes about training? In my club few players got much lower training increase from todays training report, training form is "okay" and they are still U21, so I don't know why training increase is lower than yesterday. Is adaption to the club affecting on training now ?
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I really like the live match sound effects and instant updates 8)
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I really like the live match sound effects and instant updates 8)
Thanks
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I really like the live match sound effects and instant updates 8)
me too. 8)
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Also, if I go to the bother of searching the IP Addresses for the Managers in my Division, will you delete the foreign ones, if they are not Premium?
And this bit?
(Paying to be "in" a different Country is pretty daft, imho.)
This has been ignored twice, so I assume that you will not delete them if I email you the list, so you will not be enforcing this "feature"?
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can you save training?i select skill, coatch and after pressing ,save, it says nothing changed
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Hi everyone I was wondering why I don't have the free month of premium account?
Thank you for your answer!
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Hi everyone I was wondering why I don't have the free month of premium account?
Thank you for your answer!
when you have joined this game?perhaps you have it
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I joined 1 month ago and I got my league today.
Well all premium account have the star, and i don't have it.
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Wait a moment u will get the premium.
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Thank you again admin!
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Admin, is there more changes about training? In my club few players got much lower training increase from todays training report, training form is "okay" and they are still U21, so I don't know why training increase is lower than yesterday. Is adaption to the club affecting on training now ?
Admin, can you please ask programmers about this, because I am not only one with this issue. Maybe it is bug or they changed something about training....Some players got only half training increase. For example, if a player gets 0.10 training increase every day, today he got 0.05.
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What exactly mean Golden Star in nick name ? And which users can have it ?
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What exactly mean Golden Star in nick name ? And which users can have it ?
you are online that mean
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What exactly mean Golden Star in nick name ? And which users can have it ?
you are online that mean
Thanks for answer. ;) :) 8) ;D :P
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IMHO star is for Premium Account :)
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IMHO star is for Premium Account :)
Which players are premium users ?
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Premium users are users who buy premium :D
But now, all players has free premium for a month...
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What exactly mean Golden Star in nick name ? And which users can have it ?
the star really mean that you are a premium user
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the guestbook would be better to place it in the league, instead of the team
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"From the service that you have bought you are now a premium user which is valid til 2012-09-26."
I appreciate that, and I also appreciate some part of the game, and a lot of them in fact.
But I am sorry but even if I respect the business plan, even if not original, I can't play a game where the real money give a significant advantage. I can afford it without any difficulty, but I just do not find it interesting, I would like to compete with equal chance with other players.
Plus the fact that I find the season too long, especially playing against bot, so I decided to stop play GKO, even if I like my team, and even if I spent some hours to translate the game.
Good luck Dev with your project, sincerely hope you will succeed and make some money with the game ( every work deserve retributions , that's why I am paying in similar games, when it doesnt give my any special advantage ).
Good bye GKO community.
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I agree with You, but calm down :). In Poland (we have pretty active community) I don't know anybody who is going to buy this stupid tokens. Everbody thinks like You , money killing competition. So , just stay and wait. I hope Dev will understand that this way is wrong :)
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"From the service that you have bought you are now a premium user which is valid til 2012-09-26."
I appreciate that, and I also appreciate some part of the game, and a lot of them in fact.
But I am sorry but even if I respect the business plan, even if not original, I can't play a game where the real money give a significant advantage. I can afford it without any difficulty, but I just do not find it interesting, I would like to compete with equal chance with other players.
Plus the fact that I find the season too long, especially playing against bot, so I decided to stop play GKO, even if I like my team, and even if I spent some hours to translate the game.
Good luck Dev with your project, sincerely hope you will succeed and make some money with the game ( every work deserve retributions , that's why I am paying in similar games, when it doesnt give my any special advantage ).
Good bye GKO community.
I agree with You, but calm down :). In Poland (we have pretty active community) I don't now anybody who is going to buy this stupid tokens. Everbody thinks like You , money kiling competition. So , just stay and wait. I hope Dev will understand that this way is wrong :)
+1 The same think in ROMANIA to
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"From the service that you have bought you are now a premium user which is valid til 2012-09-26."
I appreciate that, and I also appreciate some part of the game, and a lot of them in fact.
But I am sorry but even if I respect the business plan, even if not original, I can't play a game where the real money give a significant advantage. I can afford it without any difficulty, but I just do not find it interesting, I would like to compete with equal chance with other players.
Plus the fact that I find the season too long, especially playing against bot, so I decided to stop play GKO, even if I like my team, and even if I spent some hours to translate the game.
Good luck Dev with your project, sincerely hope you will succeed and make some money with the game ( every work deserve retributions , that's why I am paying in similar games, when it doesnt give my any special advantage ).
Good bye GKO community.
I agree with You, but calm down :). In Poland (we have pretty active community) I don't now anybody who is going to buy this stupid tokens. Everbody thinks like You , money kiling competition. So , just stay and wait. I hope Dev will understand that this way is wrong :)
+1 The same think in ROMANIA to
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the same from the most of managers I think
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the premium account is very expensive,if it was cheaper more and more managers will buy premium account,but is very expensive.
for me it's very expensive and people of Romania,because in this time i don't work,is hard because of crisis and is difficult to catch a job.
even if i worked it's expensive for me,because in one month gain 145 Euro this is salary in Romania minimum.
and because is very expensive doesn't buy one,if is little cheaper 1 or 2 or 2.50 euro for one month,than more managers buy this premium and more money gain GOKICKOFF
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And Tokens i don't like this.
Premium is good but very expensive
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Also, if I go to the bother of searching the IP Addresses for the Managers in my Division, will you delete the foreign ones, if they are not Premium?
And this bit?
(Paying to be "in" a different Country is pretty daft, imho.)
This has been ignored twice, so I assume that you will not delete them if I email you the list, so you will not be enforcing this "feature"?
Can I have an answer to this, please.
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Premium users are users who buy premium :D
But now, all players has free premium for a month...
...except new users who started after the new season started, who don't get the free 30 day premium trial
the premium account is very expensive,if it was cheaper more and more managers will buy premium account,but is very expensive.
for me it's very expensive and people of Romania,because in this time i don't work,is hard because of crisis and is difficult to catch a job.
even if i worked it's expensive for me,because in one month gain 145 Euro this is salary in Romania minimum.
and because is very expensive doesn't buy one,if is little cheaper 1 or 2 or 2.50 euro for one month,than more managers buy this premium and more money gain GOKICKOFF
This is a serious issue because of gross disparity in average/minimum wages among countries of the world. A worker earning minimum wage in the UK or Australia makes over �15,000 annually while the same amount of work earns only �3,734 in Romania or �2,293 in Thailand.
One solution would be to charge a sliding scale based on the average GDP per capita worldwide (around US$11,000 = �8,250). Nations like Brazil or South Africa (whose GDP are very close to the world average) would pay a baseline price (around half of current price) and the price a manager would have to pay would be the ratio of their nation's GDP per capita and the world average. If implemented, it would look like this for some selected nations:
Nation GDP per capita* proposed annual price for premium membership**
World Avg. �8,250 �20.00
Thailand �6,750 �16.36
UK �26,980 �65.40
USA �36,110 �87.54
Russia �12,515 �30.34
Romania �12,385 �30.00
Ivory Coast �1,178 �4.28
* Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita)
**calculated as ratio of nation GDP per capita and world average x �20 (per year)
This would at least ensure that most of us have an equal chance to purchase a premium membership. It would also mean more people would purchase memberships which should translate into more money for GKO staff. For example, 100 Thai premium accounts @ �16.36 each per year is a lot more money than 10 premium accounts @ �40 per year. 100 x �16.36 = �1,636 while 10 x �40 = �400.
Of course, for this to work there would have to be a way to verify the location of users. But then there is no longer an incentive to lie since premium users are allowed to manage teams in any country. It might very well make many managers who are already managing in foreign countries "come out of hiding" so to speak, register as premium users, and legitimize their status fully. Otherwise, I feel that only a small minority of GKO users will have premium accounts, and the GKO staff will be missing out on a lot of potential revenue.
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Admin, with new features, there's a higher chance that our players become injured, because they can be injured after a training session, so i decided that i might be interesting upgrade my physio, when i came back to reality...... 600.000G a physio level 2??????
According what you said, recovery reates changes, depending on our physio's level:
Level 1 -> 100%
Level 2 -> 125%
Level 3 ->150%
Level 4 ->175%
Level 5 -> 200%
Okay then.... i already complained about those expenses.... this is what you said to me....
It will be worthwhile when your club expensive superstar players are injured.
In this case it is very difficult to find a player as a replacement.
Admin, i have last World Cup top goalscorer, i believe he might fit in that "superstar player" description...... to reduce a 30 day injury just 5 days, i should i spend 600.000G before? 1.600.000G to have him injured 20 days? To be honest, i can find an amazing player spending less than 1.000.000G, it's a bit unbalanced....
I know that i can recover a player spending 20 credits (in fact, i'm saving them fearing the worst someday) or buying tokens, exchanging them to credits later.... but it's far too unbalanced..... injury risk has increased, and those who can pay can take even more advantage with it... please, at least reduce upgrading physio's expenses!!!!!
EDIT:
I finished writing this message, when people started to complain with players injured in chat room.....
* LOS GURISES F.C. (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=23337) 2 players injured: Witya Sakakorn (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=1774255) (11 days) and Desi Maradona (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=513701) (9 days)
* Estudiantes de Olavarr�a (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=111776) 2 players injured: Rold�n Victor (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=2510995) (6 days) and Pl�cido Puga (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=4421813) (10 days)
* Bananas Jrs. (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=176333) Severiano Delgado (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=5019260) (13 days)
* chespis (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=27036) 2 players injured Rufino Tos (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=595281) (7 days) and Baudelio Cruz (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=595269) (10 days)
* salliyuck (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=134424) Heraclio Vega (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=3078014) (11 days)
Of course, i weren't free of it..... Tom�s Varela (http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=2915122) (13 days)
And those were only active chat room players!!!!!!! What should we do? Run to buy tokens? New training system is far too unbalanced!!!!!!!
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after trainee all the people I know, have at least two players injured
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I have one, but that's not the point..... the point is everybody started to receive injured players!!!!!!
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day 1 and 2 player injury in training..
wow new system is unbalance..
so sad my young player with injury Quite Hard has Injury for 11 day..
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we can't maintain a line of game because we need to change the players on each injured, and they are fluently
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I have my friend list full (10 teams), 6 of them have injured players....
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Good point there CarlosT.
After increasing youth pull by real money and buying very good coaches now it comes to psychio that you can just buy a lot tokens and save ingame money not buying expensive staff. Same with scouts, that sooner or later will become very important.
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Also, if I go to the bother of searching the IP Addresses for the Managers in my Division, will you delete the foreign ones, if they are not Premium?
And this bit?
(Paying to be "in" a different Country is pretty daft, imho.)
This has been ignored twice, so I assume that you will not delete them if I email you the list, so you will not be enforcing this "feature"?
Can I have an answer to this, please.
Our policy about foreigner player is still the same as before. :)
If you found that case, please report to us.
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Our purpose of injury from daily training system is to put some dynamic to the game.
This could make GKO more realistic and more challenging.
Anyway we've found that the result is unbalanced so we decided to decrease the chance for 3 times and decrease the injury period for 2 times. :(
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Our purpose of injury from daily training system is to put some dynamic to the game.
This could make GKO more realistic and more challenging.
Anyway we've found that the result is unbalanced so we decided to decrease the chance for 3 times and decrease the injury period for 2 times. :(
WELL DONE!!
BUT How about training effect?
All of Chinese managers complained about the training system this morning!
We think that PR, coach and level of training ground are unmeaning
For example, a player with PR5 and 120credit coach train him(Good training ground) only have 0.10, he should have had more than 0.20
But a player with PR2 and no coach have 0.09,he should have had 0.05
There are many examples!
The most important is that they all get OKAY Training Form !!!!
WHY??
PLZ do something! Thanks for your work
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Our purpose of injury from daily training system is to put some dynamic to the game.
This could make GKO more realistic and more challenging.
Anyway we've found that the result is unbalanced so we decided to decrease the chance for 3 times and decrease the injury period for 2 times. :(
WELL DONE!!
BUT How about training effect?
All of Chinese managers complained about the training system this morning!
We think that PR, coach and level of training ground are unmeaning
For example, a player with PR5 and 120credit coach train him(Good training ground) only have 0.10, he should have had more than 0.20
But a player with PR2 and no coach have 0.09,he should have had 0.05
There are many examples!
The most important is that they all get OKAY Training Form !!!!
WHY??
PLZ do something! Thanks for your work
There is a bug in training form display.
We are fixing it. Thank you for your report. 8)
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Our purpose of injury from daily training system is to put some dynamic to the game.
This could make GKO more realistic and more challenging.
Anyway we've found that the result is unbalanced so we decided to decrease the chance for 3 times and decrease the injury period for 2 times. :(
WELL DONE!!
BUT How about training effect?
All of Chinese managers complained about the training system this morning!
We think that PR, coach and level of training ground are unmeaning
For example, a player with PR5 and 120credit coach train him(Good training ground) only have 0.10, he should have had more than 0.20
But a player with PR2 and no coach have 0.09,he should have had 0.05
There are many examples!
The most important is that they all get OKAY Training Form !!!!
WHY??
PLZ do something! Thanks for your work
There is a bug in training form display.
We are fixing it. Thank you for your report. 8)
the same think i found at my players,yesterday was a training good,now is half,why? fixed admin
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I REALLY like the way Free Players have been listed on the transfer market this season. Instead of many many players with the same deadline, they roll along...it is perfect!
8)
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Find some new features nice!
Now that you have more chances getting injured players (i had many last season) upgrading the physio to level 2 is really expensive (600.000G).
About the premium advantages its really unfair!i believe that if you promote double players from a user who isn't premium you have double chances getting good palyers and sell easier more players which means extra money!
Also for the premium i disagree that a user can have more than one team or if it is possible not to be allowed to play in the same nation as they can have in any nation a team!also a question about that:when the premium ends and he doesnt pay for a premium account the second team is also managed by the user
Also it would be nice at the home page where we see the transfer market to have a roller so you can see more than the 15 players which they are closer to the deadline!!
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is there anything we, as managers, can do to influence the training form or it's all random? i mean, does it matter if a player plays more or less, does it matter if the training ground is upgraded more, does it matter what kind of coach a player receives training from?
should i mention the fact that making it random totally ruined my day? i like knowing how much training my players are supposed to get, but now not only i have no idea what's gonna happen, but my only 5* progress rate player gets less training than most youth players! that is ridiculous! you guys decreased the overall training speed by implementing this silly feature and made the game less enjoyable for us...
training isnt random. you cant set to train certain skill. and pace of training depends on players pr and his age, coatch skill, training ground. how hight is skill you want to train, if player plays matches.
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Bad training form depends on random or is set at the beginning?
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is there anything we, as managers, can do to influence the training form or it's all random? i mean, does it matter if a player plays more or less, does it matter if the training ground is upgraded more, does it matter what kind of coach a player receives training from?
should i mention the fact that making it random totally ruined my day? i like knowing how much training my players are supposed to get, but now not only i have no idea what's gonna happen, but my only 5* progress rate player gets less training than most youth players! that is ridiculous! you guys decreased the overall training speed by implementing this silly feature and made the game less enjoyable for us...
training isnt random. you cant set to train certain skill. and pace of training depends on players pr and his age, coatch skill, training ground. how hight is skill you want to train, if player plays matches.
I have to say you don't catch him... he want to tell admin : The Training Form is just Random
OMG :o
And the randomness make PR, coach and level of training ground unmeaning
We have got so many examples!! Like this ��
a player with PR5 and 120credit coach train him(Good training ground) only have 0.10, he should have had more than 0.20
But a player with PR2 and no coach have 0.09,he should have had 0.05
I think it must be happend many times in almost every club!!
YES, training form is not bad. But why can't we do something to make it batter? I think it shouldn't be just random.
Maybe we can hire good coach or level up our training ground to get more OKAY or GOOD Form.
PLZ do something, admin.
Thanks for your work.
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5Th Season Is More Wonderful , with premium profile and other items
GKO Is the BEST ? :D
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OK,I have to go on talking about the training from here, RIGHT?
:D :D
Training Form changes training effect a lot!
So if you have good luck, your PR2 player would be as same as players with PR5
Also, some people complained about 120credit coach (a little cheap for some rich managers). I think you shouldn't be worried about it now.
Because 120credit coach can do nothing but getting a huge salary from your club...
And we don't need to make a lot money on our training ground...because Training Form will make your investment unmeaning....
Don't buy any CA1-2 young players, although you get a LA9 PR5 player, he may get only 0.04 every day.... he will never reach CA9
:( :( :( :(
PLZ reduse the influence of Training Form or give us some way to get more OKAY and GOOG. 8) 8)
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the analysis miss the position FL and FR
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8) :o 8)
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the analysis miss the position FL and FR
Add this improve admin?
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is there anything we, as managers, can do to influence the training form or it's all random? i mean, does it matter if a player plays more or less, does it matter if the training ground is upgraded more, does it matter what kind of coach a player receives training from?
should i mention the fact that making it random totally ruined my day? i like knowing how much training my players are supposed to get, but now not only i have no idea what's gonna happen, but my only 5* progress rate player gets less training than most youth players! that is ridiculous! you guys decreased the overall training speed by implementing this silly feature and made the game less enjoyable for us...
training isnt random. you cant set to train certain skill. and pace of training depends on players pr and his age, coatch skill, training ground. how hight is skill you want to train, if player plays matches.
1st of all: you need to learn some english; only then, you can go to:
2nd of all: you need to read my post again; veeeery carefully, so you can understand what i wrote;
3rd of all: in the first part of my post i was referring to the training form. it seems to be completely random and i need Admin to confirm or deny this statement. if he denies it, it would do us all a favor by advising us on what course of action we need to take in order to soften this blow we received. in the second part of my post i talked about the training amount (not type) every player receives daily, which now is influenced way too much by the training form. this training form makes the PR and the expensive coaches matter less that it should. i would understand if a player that used to receive 0.15 training last season would receive between 0.13 and 0.17, but seeing my 5 PR player coached by a 120 credit coach and a good training ground receiving 0.08 passing today i feel like Admin is mocking me.
I'm really glad if your 120c coach can't train no more than 0,08 your PR5 players because you have bought that coach with real money. I'm sorry my opinion but is my feeling.
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The credit coach is the same as before nothing more or less.
However, PR of the player still plays a very important role.
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Awesome.
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the analysis miss the position FL and FR
Game engine apply position penalty to FC that play FL and FR in team analysis.
Is this a mistake, admin ? :-\
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I'm really glad if your 120c coach can't train no more than 0,08 your PR5 players because you have bought that coach with real money. I'm sorry my opinion but is my feeling.
Its verry funny how you always complain, giving nothing to the game. Last time u complain about cheaters in GER Top Level, when you are Spanish user playing unfair in GER league. So please stop the crap and think what you're saying.
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I'm really glad if your 120c coach can't train no more than 0,08 your PR5 players because you have bought that coach with real money. I'm sorry my opinion but is my feeling.
Its verry funny how you always complain, giving nothing to the game. Last time u complain about cheaters in GER Top Level, when you are Spanish user playing unfair in GER league. Stop the crap and think what you're saying.
I don't make free complain, last time I complained about cheaters in German Top League, and those cheaters are banned, do you know about that?, mmmm, yes! I think yes, and you and me know why ; ).
I have given a lot of ideas to the game, yo can check all my posts, gamemasters can take them or not, the ideas are for them to improve the game.
And as everybody know here in this forum, I am spanish user, playing in Germany, I don't break any rule (if you check my past posts, yo will know why), I continue playing without any problem so you musn't complain about that, I'm not banned. You are not the person who I have to explain my situation, the persons who must know it are reported, they know my situation, don't worry.
And for finnish stop your corporatism, almost all users don't like that real money take part in the game, I think the same that the most of the users.
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almost all users don't like that real money take part in the game, I think the same that the most of the users.
I agree with you
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almost all users don't like that real money take part in the game, I think the same that the most of the users.
I agree with you
QFT
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almost all users don't like that real money take part in the game, I think the same that the most of the users.
I agree with you
QFT
Everyone except "Ayn Rand" Mihutu (http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1833) lol
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What's going on? :)
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almost all users don't like that real money take part in the game, I think the same that the most of the users.
I agree with you too but, you dont even try to understand that game is designed to at least pay itself. There are people who WORK on this game, and money from banners/google ads are silly. I will not buy premium or tokens, bcz i dont need advantage but i dont stop anyone to buy it like you want. This game is free, with premium bonuses(i agree that +7 youths is dumb idea, max +3 for tokens) but do not expect that admin will pay for game maintenance from his own pocket.
I was working on games via www and i know how much money it cost, you need to remember there is many things you dont see, but admin is paying for them, like:
Host (http://www.softlayer.com/dedicated/ gko is on 1 of this hosts, check out prices per month)
Domain (about 50$ per year, promotional 120$ 3 years)
GameDesigners
Graphics
Advertising
and few other.
And about you playing in GER league i was raporting you long time ago, same as 3 others GER Top Level teams who played in WCL (1 using PL ip, who kick Dynamit Warsaw[PL Team] from next round, you with ESP IP and some thai IP manager) None of you get banned, i saw 3 days ago when you post about Sportes that they get banned, but same story was in PL league when Nation Moderator henry was banned for trading players to 2nd account and 2 days later he was unbanned... I agree its between you and admin, but its more unfair then token's and premium account features. (when you stole some German manager place in German top level because you are too late to play in top level spain).
I didn't mean to cause you any offence by this, i dont think you are cheater but you are not fair eaither.
One of the absurd premium features are:
"12. A premium user may play multiple accounts but every accounts that he plays have to be premium accounts.
17. A premium user is allowed to join league in any country. "
and they + tokening youths should be deleted.
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almost all users don't like that real money take part in the game, I think the same that the most of the users.
I agree with you too but, you dont even try to understand that game is designed to at least pay itself. There are people who WORK on this game, and money from banners/google ads are silly. I will not buy premium or tokens, bcz i dont need advantage but i dont stop anyone to buy it like you want. This game is free, with premium bonuses(i agree that +7 youths is dumb idea, max +3 for tokens) but do not expect that admin will pay for game maintenance from his own pocket.
I was working on games via www and i know how much money it cost, you need to remember there is many things you dont see, but admin is paying for them, like:
Host (http://www.softlayer.com/dedicated/ gko is on 1 of this hosts, check out prices per month)
Domain (about 50$ per year, promotional 120$ 3 years)
GameDesigners
Graphics
Advertising
and few other.
And about you playing in GER league i was raporting you long time ago, same as 3 others GER Top Level teams who played in WCL (1 using PL ip, who kick Dynamit Warsaw[PL Team] from next round, you with ESP IP and some thai IP manager) None of you get banned, i saw 3 days ago when you post about Sportes that they get banned, but same story was in PL league when Nation Moderator henry was banned for trading players to 2nd account and 2 days later he was unbanned... I agree its between you and admin, but its more unfair then token's and premium account features. (when you stole some German manager place in German top level because you are too late to play in top level spain).
Dont be offence by this, i dont think you are cheater but you are not fair eaither.
One of the absurd premium features are:
"12. A premium user may play multiple accounts but every accounts that he plays have to be premium accounts.
17. A premium user is allowed to join league in any country. "
and they + tokening youths should be deleted.
I think that the game economic area is covered with the pub and the premium account. But the subject is very easy, if the game wouldn't have tokens, more users would buy the premium and the game would win more money in my opinion.
In relation with my spanish IP, I don't stole any place to nobody, to play in the league you want is a right not to be a cheater, your comment is very close to racism (don't feel offended), we live in a global world, don't forget that, that is my point of view. And think why I am not banned. You don't know my personal situation, gamemasters yes.
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I think that the game economic area is covered with the pub and the premium account. But the subject is very easy, if the game wouldn't have tokens, more users would buy the premium and the game would win more money in my opinion.
Exactly . I am going to buy premium but tokens are huge disaster in this game :(
I still don't understand why users can't just exchange token for G money? Why first have to promote youth and then sell them? Or why first must exchange tokens for credits and then hire credit coach instead of use G for hiring better coach?
Don't panic . It was ironic, lol
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One of the absurd premium features are:
"12. A premium user may play multiple accounts but every accounts that he plays have to be premium accounts.
17. A premium user is allowed to join league in any country. "
and they + tokening youths should be deleted.
I think that the game economic area is covered with the pub and the premium account. But the subject is very easy, if the game wouldn't have tokens, more users would buy the premium and the game would win more money in my opinion.
In relation with my spanish IP, I don't stole any place to nobody, to play in the league you want is a right not to be a cheater, your comment is very close to racism (don't feel offended), we live in a global world, don't forget that, that is my point of view. And think why I am not banned. You don't know my personal situation, gamemasters yes.
You dont understand me in this question i have nothing against you as spanish citizen, i have been in madrid, valencia, beautifull places and superb people, i just think that when you start playing there was a rule about "where you living there you play" and many ppl was banned(i never saw on gko "u can play wherever you want") bcz of it, i just have problem with that, not with you being spanish :).
About topic, i agree totaly, token's are rotten apple of this game.
Now i cant find it bcz "term of use" are changed after adding premium and there is nothing about it.
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I believe nobody denies GKO staff's right to receive a payment for their work, and every single person here has been playing without a single ad in 4 seasons, wich means they made an investment that never were covered.
The big complain we've got here is not the fact that they started to use the premium user system, the problem is its consecuences, premium user have FAR more chances to win everything, develop everything faster, and that's the big problem, there's a balance that has been destroyed, we are not talking about a "gap" between normal and premium user, the difference is as huge as Everest Mount!
Without any effort you can promote more youth (that can be sold later), you can improve him faster than users that comes from 2 or 3 seasons ago, you don't need to analyse matches or scout players, all you need to do is watch reports, you've got everything there. Using premium tools i won almost all my matches this season, i heven't received a single red arrow, everything were perfect, even philosophy was fine! The only thing you need to do is look at your opponent's gameplan see how effective it is, and then counter it with your squad. At least, people won't complain saying that match engine is random, because everything happens as expected. How can a nornal user counter it.... there's only one way, changing players and gameplan all the time, and a manager game that don't let you do planning becomes a low quality game, and it's really a shame, because i love this game, i believe it has everything to become one of the greatest.... but you know what? I don't know succesful online managers that put normal users in such a big gap against a premium. I repeat it, i believe it's right to have premium accounts, it's great to have some extras that improves your gaming experience, but this time, they were too far.
The other problem is account and token prizes, they SHOULDN'T be global, that's not the way that videogames industry works, you don't pay the same for a game if you purchase it in UK than Spain (i've seen lots of times in spanish forum people sayin how much money they save importing games) i can underatand that some global events or stuff uses global prizes, but those who don't use them have restrictions.... i believe that, for example, a local prize in each country (with an IP tracked to make sure they don't lie) would probably give them even more money than current global scheme.... football is a global sport, and sometimes is more loved in an undeveloped country than others with stronger economies.
About Ologga's situation..... the problem is not that he's a foreing manager and other banned managers were foreign too (in fact, you can fix it with money from now on... so something ilegal becomes legal, if you can pay the brive) the problem is that thos 2 polish managers were working together manipulating matches..... how can a team playing cup semi finals (placed 6th on league) use his remaining MotS in league, against the 2nd placed team, having the cup at hand? They weren't banned because they're foreing, they were banned because they broke the Terms of Service.
Ologga's situation is particular, when he joined the game people were asked to "where do you want to play" after he created his account it changed to "where do you live".... do you think people should be banned because a rule were changed from day to night, without notice?
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You dont understand me in this question i have nothing against you as spanish citizen, i have been in madrid, valencia, beautifull places and superb people, i just think that when you start playing there was a rule about "where you living there you play" and many ppl was banned(i never saw on gko "u can play wherever you want") bcz of it, i just have problem with that, not with you being spanish :).
About topic, i agree totaly, token's are rotten apple of this game.
No, there wasn't. When I made my team the rule was: 'choose the league where you want to play with the only condition of can't change league never'. The rule that you refers is in force some months later. That is my reason. Otherwise I would be playing in Spain, but the system in the beginning of the game, gave us the possibility of stablish in the country we wanted.
CarlosT explains it and German Top Level 'problems' last season very well in his last post, here some minutes ago. Thank you so much.
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Ologga's situation is particular, when he joined the game people were asked to "where do you want to play" after he created his account it changed to "where do you live".... do you think people should be banned because a rule were changed from day to night, without notice?
And thats all i want to know.
About PREMIUM i think there i too much gap too, but not in these area you pointed. More in the 2 account and tokens stuff. Tokens gonna ruined akademy and prices of young players :/
@Ologga - Sorry i wasnt know about that situation. Accept my apology :).
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@Ologga - Sorry i wasnt know about that situation. Accept my apology :).
Of course that I accept your apology.
Good luck in the new season.
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I had no good training form for a week, not a single time. and every day i have like 3-4 bad training forms. is that normal?(with medium workload)
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I had no good training form for a week, not a single time. and every day i have like 3-4 bad training forms. is that normal?(with medium workload)
Well, i didn't too, and some of my players are using Very heavy workload.
At least, i had only 1 player injured this week :P
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the analysis miss the position FL and FR
Game engine apply position penalty to FC that play FL and FR in team analysis.
Is this a mistake, admin ? :-\
Please answer this.
Thank you.
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Im tottaly confused im using training speed and in 4 trainings i get 3x marking 1x pace this is weird...
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the analysis miss the position FL and FR
Game engine apply position penalty to FC that play FL and FR in team analysis.
Is this a mistake, admin ? :-\
Please answer this.
Thank you.
admin you are news?
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Overall I really like the new features...they added most of the new features that have been suggested in the forum with any popularity 8)
...however, these changes have failed to address any of the shortcomings with existing features that have been raised in the forum aside from an improved search engine for NT players, but it is only available with premium account
:-[
While I understand that most, let alone all, of the issues that have been raised were not going to be fixed this time around, I am surprised that no others were addressed:
Those things are needed too:
Match Engine:
* Add indirect free kicks
* Allow keepers to be injured and receive cards
* More individual instructions slots
* Allow managers to store 2 formations and change them during a match
* Allow to change individual orders when a player is subbed
* Have the chance to do a substitution if a player receives a red card.
* Allow "unlimited" substitutions for friendly matches (club and national team)
* Fix 90' substitution bug
* Penalties (in-match): display each penalty (kicker's name, shot placement, whether keeper made save) @ 2 per minute of match
* Penalties (kicker selection): allow managers to set or automatically choose each randomly from best 2-3 pen takers available
National Teams Management:
* Allow managers to confirm a list with an injured player: It happened me before that i called up a player injured a monday match, when the game did a revision it saw that i had a player injured, but it never checked how long time it would be..... i left that player because he'd be healthy on thursday (he was injured 3 days), so he'd be match fin on friday.
* Allow managers to do a "reserve list": Simply add 3 more players in each list (1 defender, 1 midfielder and 1 striker) that would replace a player if that player is injured in wednesday's matches. I had this idea before i had that problem with an injured player.... the game simply removed my DL and placed a FC, i was using 1 FC and i had 3 strikers on my list..... even worst, the game placed a striker age 21 (i don't use them because i won't be able to use them in U-21 WC) and his condition was 83%, in other words it only gave me a trouble.... having a backup list, at least i'm sure that if i can't keep a defender, i'll have another one as a replacement.
* Have NT energy, independent than club's energy: With that energy we could scout players (own country's players only) and have the chance to recover player if he's tired.... it might help clubs and NT managers to do his part, it happened to me that a player reached friday at 91%, but he was banned for league match, so his manager refused to restore his player.... his attitude was selfsih, but if i'd have the chance to recover him myself i would have make it. (of course, that player is not in my priorities right now, i'll call him only sometimes, i'm increasing his player's skills after all).
General game:
* Give the game more facilities, i recomended some of them sometime ago.....
A must have is something that makes a team play better in away matches, stadium quality grants you more possession in home matches, but maybe something to compensate would be interesting, last time i recommended to add a team transport, so a team with a comfortable bus (or a plane, in the last level) can play in a good level, without suffering travels before a match. Of course, team bus shouldn't have 6 levels (like Stadium Quality does) but maybe 4 to do a compensation might be great. This feature also would give active users some advantage agains unactive in short term, wait about 2 months to see a real deduction in unactive team's performance is too much, so active users can have more advntage with it.
* Change the current club activities structure when playing a league match: to be honest i didn't like the new scheme, but well..... admin explanation was "manager is supposed to be with the squad, so he can't do activities".... to compensate that..... what if club activities gives 2x normal income after a league match? All team fans are gattered in the stadium, so it makes sense...
* Require new managers to play in the nation their ip address is located at registration. Do not allow registration using known or hidden proxies!! If someone wants to register in another nation, make the user contact admin for special permission prior to registration.
* Assign new managers to clubs below B level in all nations with 3+ levels
* Replace the 1-credit incentive for new referrals with (5-10?) points on their club rating
* Make credits transferable for (50-80?) energy
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ALSO, i have 3-4 players on heavy workload every day, no good training for about a week or so.
Mee too, and i have one in very heavy workload, not a single good training form so far :(
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I have 3-4 players on veary heavy training, and every day one of them has good training form :].
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I have 3-4 players on veary heavy training, and every day one of them has good training form :].
i had no good training for days.bad luck?
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yes i think so, like in my team today 8 bad training forms :O
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I think admins of this game do not want to listen what we suggest here and that is going to be huge problem for this game. I play few similar games and i did not see anywhere that real money can bring advantages in game.
Youth system is is the biggest problem of all here. 15 :7 is just unacceptable. And that need to be fixed now, not tomorow , not next season but NOW, or many users will leave the game. And you try develop game with only premium users, you will soon see it is not possible. Youth system can be changed in this way: Every user can promote unlimited number of juniors, but need to pay for every promotion at least 100.000 G. Or something like that. For this season you should increase number of juniors to 15 for every user,so we will have fair play, fair game and you will still have premium account to sell.
-A premium user may play multiple accounts but every accounts that he plays have to be premium accounts. -This is ridiculous, dont you agree?
Please admin, do not ignore this post and answer do you plan to to something with this problem, or we ( non premium users ) should leave the game now?
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the analysis miss the position FL and FR
Game engine apply position penalty to FC that play FL and FR in team analysis.
Is this a mistake, admin ? :-\
Please answer this.
Thank you.
We did not do anything with FL and FR but the skills suitable for FL and FR is not exactly the same as FC.
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I think admins of this game do not want to listen what we suggest here and that is going to be huge problem for this game. I play few similar games and i did not see anywhere that real money can bring advantages in game.
Youth system is is the biggest problem of all here. 15 :7 is just unacceptable. And that need to be fixed now, not tomorow , not next season but NOW, or many users will leave the game. And you try develop game with only premium users, you will soon see it is not possible. Youth system can be changed in this way: Every user can promote unlimited number of juniors, but need to pay for every promotion at least 100.000 G. Or something like that. For this season you should increase number of juniors to 15 for every user,so we will have fair play, fair game and you will still have premium account to sell.
-A premium user may play multiple accounts but every accounts that he plays have to be premium accounts. -This is ridiculous, dont you agree?
Please admin, do not ignore this post and answer do you plan to to something with this problem, or we ( non premium users ) should leave the game now?
We always listen to users. We try to reduce the advantages gained from real money as much as possible.
However, changes can't be implemented immediately. We may remake the youth system in the next
season.
Thank you for your suggestion.
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OK, but at least you can do in this season is possibility to exchange credits for tokens, so i can earn 24 credits, exchange for 8 tokens and promote new player. It would be fair i think.
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OK, but at least you can do in this season is possibility to exchange credits for tokens, so i can earn 24 credits, exchange for 8 tokens and promote new player. It would be fair i think.
this is not good,bad idea ::) tokens shit
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I do agree with you, tokens are shit,read my previous post, i gave my opinion about new features, but admins obviously will not change anything during this season, so i suggested that we can exchange credit for tokens.
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I did not see that anywhere is written extra youths can be promoted ONLY by paying for tokens, so that what you talking about does not have any sense. By the way, i am jurist, and buying tokens represent contract, that is truth, but you dont lose your advantages of your tokens if admins give an opportunity other users that in different way promote extra youths. PACTA SUNT SERVANDA-that is legal maxim, and here would not be violations of contract obligations. So do not speak about things you dont know.
By the way in the rules of this game you can clearly read that admins can change any rule without even notify users about that....;)
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You are not right, you still have big advantage, other users from mini game can earn credits for 2 -3 youth player top in whole season, not more, and you can have extra 8 youths....Beside that ,do you realize that tokens will destroy this game, and you will not then have any advantages. Simple, users will not continue to play the game where doesnt exist fair play.
Gap is just too huge now, and something about tokens need to be done now.
With 8 youths more ,you can with good academy and little bit of luck earn extra couple millions just with selling those youth players. If you train them that would be even more. How can others play this game then? It is simple , they cant, and they wont, so you can threw away your tokens then, and admins can shut this game down.
One more ting, tokens are not just for youths but many others things.
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OK, but at least you can do in this season is possibility to exchange credits for tokens, so i can earn 24 credits, exchange for 8 tokens and promote new player. It would be fair i think.
if anyone is gonna start using credits to pull extra youth players, i'm gonna ask for my money back, since when i payed (which represents a contract) it was advertised that t, not using credits. admin, have this in mind.
where was written that the Only way to get extra youth players was by paying?it says you can buy extra youth with tokens. or it says "there is no way to get extra youth but buying tokens"?
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Since we are talking here about amount of advantages for some users in the game, game simple doesnt have a future.
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mihutu, may i ask how many token you bought?
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He promoted 15 youngster this season , so no less then 56.
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=132271
My MOTS always waiting for users like him. And hard tackling.
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For me you are just a looser whe cannot win in fair game. Shame on you. Shame on developers of this game .But beyond of rules and laws human being have some ethitcs, you don't.
You must to remember not everything is for sale. Even you win something there will always be someone who tell you that you win unfairly.
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Even you win something there will always be someone who tell you that you win unfairly.
It's clear that he don't care that....
Ruta, you calculated 56 credits? He's got 2 credit coaches, so, at least, he bought 136 token.
I do understand why he defend those advantages :P
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Carlos, I know he might win everything but no one will respect him. I am calm down now
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Even you win something there will always be someone who tell you that you win unfairly.
It's clear that he don't care that....
Ruta, you calculated 56 credits? He's got 2 credit coaches, so, at least, he bought 136 token.
I do understand why he defend those advantages :P
mmmm.. are yoo sure carlos, that his coaches are credit coaches, their skills are very similar to my 700,000g coaches, ... may be 700,000g and 120c coaches are almost the same thing?.
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Yes, they are the same/almost the same..... and he said he bought a coach using credits:
but seeing my 5 PR player coached by a 120 credit coach and a good training ground receiving 0.08 passing today i feel like Admin is mocking me.
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Okay then, what should i do with somebody that claims that everybody are doing things wrong, because they don't pay? Oh i forgot, you're the only person in the world that works! Oh forgot! You risked your life working! Let me tell you this, i do work, lots of times over 30 feet, just to feed my family and buy some things i like, and i don't go around with the "i am superior because i work".
You didn't came here peacefully, you always came searching somebody to fight with, and i never told you to stop..... but of course, i am in the same "barricade" than Ruta.
To be honest, this forum were far more peaceful until arrogants with money came in. At least to me, spending your money in the game don't give you any extra right, and your behavior was not an example too.
Oh, did i share the info you gave me in your PM? I really did? I only quoted something you said 2 pages ago..... you don't need to be brillant to do that :-X
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Considering all conversations above , do you realize now what did you do with giving advantages to premium users? Ha, admins, developers?
Mihutu, i do work too, but u am not arrogant person who uses money to prove someting to someone.... You will always be just a loser who will never win anything in life in a fair way, i would be worried about myself if i were you...
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Mihutu, why don't you understand that no one is proposing any "non-advantage premiums"??? Look up the economic concept of "opportunity cost". It is different from the purely monetary "accounting cost" that you allude to in your posts. Currently, buying a premium account has virtually no in-game opportunity cost. This cost is almost entirely externalized!!! In other words, with a premium account, there is virtually nothing you will get to avoid doing (in the game) with a free account to enjoy all the features of the game. But there is a huge in-game opportunity cost of not buying a premium. This is where there is imbalance, I'm afraid. In-game opportunity costs could include extra costs (G), time spent doing club activities or other routine tasks, using hard-to-get credits, etc for short-term use of premium features. If you don't see this as an advantage, they I don't think you understand what the word means.
::)
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You know mihutu, you must secretly be Roman Abramovich :))
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qG0vRBIUPj8/TymHhunDUZI/AAAAAAAAChI/lhMhXypWOAo/s1600/1244853078_p1_abramovich_0706.jpg)
everyone knows Roman thinks he can win championships with money; according to one source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jun/23/chelsea-financial-fair-play) he has spent close to �1 Billion of his own money since he bought Chelsea FC in 2003...
...and everyone knows he is wrong.
Sure Chelsea have won a couple league titles and National cups in that time (a feat achieved by 3 other clubs in the same), but now they have a team that has cost �2 Billion to run in the past year and yet is struggling to maintain 5th place in the EPL. So you can embellish all the advantages you have throwing money at the game, but they won't make you unbeatable, I'm sure of it.
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my friend mihutu, in the first place not every users that is not buying tokens means he doesn't work ,second place if you thing you are smarter then every one why do you need to spent so many real money? in my opinion your weakness is directly proportional with the amount of money that you need to spent.
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Carlos, I know he might win everything but no one will respect him. I am calm down now
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My comment about Roman Abramovich got me thinking: the premium account essentially brings "ownership" (in a rw sense) into the game. If we purchase a premium account for another player, we should be displayed as the owner in club overview page. If we purchase a premium for our own team, then we also become owner (manager-owner to be precise). Maybe the owner could change stadium name? Ownership might even be transferable...imagine a club transfer market
:P
We should also have a forum thread devoted to managers who are seeking an owner
8)
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I had no good training form for almost 3 weeks. No matter its heavy or medium training. I would accept that if not having min. 2 players with bad training form every day. this is ridiculous, training becomes a lottery.
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I had no good training form for almost 3 weeks. No matter its heavy or medium training. I would accept that if not having min. 2 players with bad training form every day. this is ridiculous, training becomes a lottery.
Wow are you ever unfortunate. I have 8-10 players on hard training and 3-4 on very hard, which results in about 2 players getting good training form each day, on average. This works out about right, with a 1 in 8 chance of good form with hard training and a 1 in 3 chance of good form with very hard training. However, I don't believe I have yet gotten good training form for a player on medium training. Since I have 19-20 players set to medium training, it seems that with the reported 1 in 30 chance of good form at this setting, I should be getting about 2 good training form results every 3 days, but this does not happen.
How many players, on average, do you have on heavy or very heavy training, gabriellis?
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if not premium energy are 100 or not
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I had no good training form for almost 3 weeks. No matter its heavy or medium training. I would accept that if not having min. 2 players with bad training form every day. this is ridiculous, training becomes a lottery.
Wow are you ever unfortunate. I have 8-10 players on hard training and 3-4 on very hard, which results in about 2 players getting good training form each day, on average. This works out about right, with a 1 in 8 chance of good form with hard training and a 1 in 3 chance of good form with very hard training. However, I don't believe I have yet gotten good training form for a player on medium training. Since I have 19-20 players set to medium training, it seems that with the reported 1 in 30 chance of good form at this setting, I should be getting about 2 good training form results every 3 days, but this does not happen.
How many players, , on average do you have on heavy or very heavy training, gabriellis?
3 heavy and 24 medium. today 3 had bad form (medium workload) and ofc no good training f. I know i shouldnt expect good training for every day, but in 30 days not a single good form? on average i have 2 players with bad form every day, so its ~60 players after 30 days. so its 3% chance to get good form or 0-3%?coz by now it had to been ~35 players with good form after 30 days( from 24*30=720 trainings)
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I think it must be about a 0.3% chance for good training form with medium, but even that should have provided 2-3 good form "events" out of 720 trainings...
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Well, it's been about a month since i get a good training form..... i don't use many players under heavy/very heavy workout, but even having about 20 players on normal, i only get Okay/Bad training form.
I've been unlucky maybe :(
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Let's find out: ;)
To remind everyone, current system purportedly works this way
Light : The chance of getting bad and good training result are 50% and 0% respectively.
Medium : The chance of getting bad and good training result are 5% and 3% respectively.
Heavy : The chance of getting bad and good training result are 0% and 12% respectively.
Very Heavy : The chance of getting bad and good training result are 0% and 30% respectively.
Setting Number Bad Okay Good
Light 25 11 (44%) 14 (66%) 0 (--%)
Medium 138 15 (10.9%) 123 (89.1%) 0 (0%)
Heavy 74 0 (0%) 70 (94.6%) 4 (5.4%)
Very Heavy 8 0 (--%) 7 (--%) 1 (--%)
emboldened figures differ significantly from those above
I will update daily. After I have at least 30 "samples" I will calculate and post the observed probabilities in the parentheses (--%). I hope to ultimately get at least 100 of each before I get sick of it lol
CarlosT or other mods, feel free to edit the post to add your daily results at least until we have 30 and can compute reasonably accurate probabilities...if you want...just don't mess it up lol
:P
so far I can conclude that there are some significant differences in results above from those figures outlined on training page
...more conclusions to come as adequate data is available
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maybe I should have posted this as a bug
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:-D told you so. no good training form for me so far too
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I had 2 good training froms this week, but 2 good results in about a month doesn't have much sense. :-X
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Definitively now the players get less trainning that last seasons, they reach their best level slowly, even in very heavy they train slowly too than before. And injury subjetc, ... now 5 injuries at the same time in my team for example, so, to have them in very heavy is worst because the trainning extra that they win, are lost in the 6-7 days that they are stopped when they are injuried.
I think is absolutely necessary the B team or a youth league for youth player because now, with this trainning rates, for the youths can reach 7-8*, they need at least 3 seasons playing in your team, and that doesn't compensate. Teams that are fighting for win leagues/cups, can't be using young players that have only 250,000G for example, youths must play, as in real life, in a specific team whose main goal is get players trainning.
B team, can be a very good feature for premium accounts, instead of the possibility of have many teams paying (even in real life a only owner can't have 2 or more teams), if you are premium you can have your B team where your young players are developped and they compete with other 'professional teams' until they are enough good players for can play in A team.
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Definitively now the players get less trainning that last seasons, they reach their best level slowly, even in very heavy they train slowly too than before. And injury subjetc, ... now 5 injuries at the same time in my team for example, so, to have them in very heavy is worst because the trainning extra that they win, are lost in the 6-7 days that they are stopped when they are injuried.
I think is absolutely necessary the B team or a youth league for youth player because now, with this trainning rates, for the youths can reach 7-8*, they need at least 3 seasons playing in your team, and that doesn't compensate. Teams that are fighting for win leagues/cups, can't be using young players that have only 250,000G for example, youths must play, as in real life, in a specific team whose main goal is get players trainning.
B team, can be a very good feature for premium accounts, instead of the possibility of have many teams paying (even in real life a only owner can't have 2 or more teams), if you are premium you can have your B team where your young players are developped and they compete with other 'professional teams' until they are enough good players for can play in A team.
Cmon, premium users already can have extra training in custom cups witch is huge advantage and you want give them also 1 more league?
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Admin, what will happen with the loan money fature? Will it be removed permanently?
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Admin, what will happen with the loan money fature? Will it be removed permanently?
loan money feature? I haven't heard of that...
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Admin, what will happen with the loan money fature? Will it be removed permanently?
loan money feature? I haven't heard of that...
When season started, it was there, they removed it later, admin said it would be only to paid premium users
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Loan money would give too much advantage to paid users.
Do you agree with us ?
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I suggest to open load player option to all users, that could make gokickoff as real football. (low league users could borrow players from higher league and both team could get benefit).
Perhaps you could set different limit for that. like paid users could loan in 2 players per season and could from one to his another paid account like now. However, free users could only loan in 1 youth player(under 20 yrs) and couldn't loan to secondary account (like transfer rule).
And IMHO, I may suggest a "loan window" for players over 20 yrs, like the first 2 weeks in each season. In other time of that season team could only loan youth players but not over 20 yrs. That could make loan options more interesting, and more close to real football.
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Loan money would give too much advantage to paid users.
Do you agree with us ?
Of course i agree, i just wanted to know, thanks a lot!
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Loan money would give too much advantage to paid users.
Do you agree with us ?
Why not make this feature available to all users?
???
It is hard to believe that the core game (available to all users) was not improved in the slightest this season, so why not give it this, at least?
;)
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Loan money would give too much advantage to paid users.
Do you agree with us ?
Why not make this feature available to all users?
???
It is hard to believe that the core game (available to all users) was not improved in the slightest this season, so why not give it this, at least?
;)
If loan money opened, there must be more cheaters than now...
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Loan money would give too much advantage to paid users.
Do you agree with us ?
Why not make this feature available to all users?
???
It is hard to believe that the core game (available to all users) was not improved in the slightest this season, so why not give it this, at least?
;)
If loan money opened, there must be more cheaters than now...
I believe it CAN be more cheaters, but if you set some conditions to get one (time active without cheating) choose wisely who can get one. It might be worth.
I was thinking about getting one just to improve a facility (some king of "club credit card") you could avoid cheating with that.
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if loan system allow player can build construct only .can't use to buy player
it will be good.... because they can't cheat by buy player.
ps. sorry my eng are bad
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Loan money would give too much advantage to paid users.
Do you agree with us ?
Why not make this feature available to all users?
???
It is hard to believe that the core game (available to all users) was not improved in the slightest this season, so why not give it this, at least?
;)
If loan money opened, there must be more cheaters than now...
I believe it CAN be more cheaters, but if you set some conditions to get one (time active without cheating) choose wisely who can get one. It might be worth.
I was thinking about getting one just to improve a facility (some king of "club credit card") you could avoid cheating with that.
I really hope developers will consider this more seriously now that better tools have been implemented to catch cheaters
;)
As a side note, in addition to making credits transferrable to tokens, I'd like to see more dynamic mini-game options that create more opportunities to win credits. Maybe even allow managers to bet 1 or 2 credits to double or triple their winnings (respectively), or lose those credits if picks fail to win anything
8)