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Title: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on November 10, 2010, 06:32:46 AM
Attributes increase each day . These values are updated at 0:00 (server time).
Normally these figures increase less than one per day and when they accumulate to one they will be shown.
This means that two players that is shown to have equal points of passing skill doesn't always have to have
the same "actual" points.  For example, if two players has both 14 points of passing skill one might has 14.97 points
while the other has only 14.03 points.

An increase attribute is calculated from...

The progress rate of the player + (progress rate of the player x (The level of the training facility/6)) +
(progress rate of the player x (The skill of the coach/20))

- Players under the age of 18 have the following bonus
=>  (50+ Working with Youngsters)%
e.g. If a coach with working with Youngster skill of 10 trains a player of age 16,
that player will get a bonus of 60%

- Players under the age of 22 have the following bonus
=>  (20+ Working with Youngsters)%

- Players over the age of 27 have -50% training penalty.

- Attributes of a player over the age of 29 decline every day.

- PR of a player starts to decrease when his age increases from 21 to 22

And the PR of a player decreases as follows...


8-->4
7-->4
6-->3
5-->3
4-->2
3-->2
2-->1
1-->1

- A player uses more skill points as the skill is closer to 20.
The rate of the development is also slower as the skill is closer to 20.

-  When the 'current ability' of a player reaches his 'limited ability' or current ability >= 7, training has no effect in improvement. Only Appearances in matches help him improve his skills.

- Appearances in a match (play for more than 30 minutes) help a player improves his skills.
The amount of improvement depends on his rating and his progress rate. The improvement from appearances in a match
is about the same as the improvement from training. It is advisable to put a player in the first-team frequently if you want to enhance his attributes quickly.

And if a player is over 33, he has a chance to retired from professional soccer career.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: MvcL on November 10, 2010, 09:37:04 AM
thanks for posting all these threads to help us.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on November 11, 2010, 03:11:59 AM
You're very welcome.

 :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Sarote Saelee on November 18, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
I do not understand "0.8 time bonus" help explain.

Thank you.  ;D
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on November 19, 2010, 03:05:27 PM
I do not understand "0.8 time bonus" help explain.

Thank you.  ;D

It means 1x + 0.8x while x is the normal increase rate.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: henry148 on November 22, 2010, 04:12:36 PM
When new player is joining the team and I'm trying to set him a training I have to set up training for all team members again all over. And that's not only my problem i think...
And one more thing: why wen my defender trains defending in training report his improved skills are showing me crreativty?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Archiebald387 on November 22, 2010, 09:56:36 PM
When you set up training, you MUST save your training by clicking on "save training"   :)

My goalkeeper trains goalkeeping, and in training report he improved tackling, my forward trains speed, and he improved teamwork  ::)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on November 23, 2010, 12:24:53 PM
@henry148
@Archiebald387

A training course focuses on improvement in certain areas; however, a player has
a small chance to develop skills in other areas as well.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: henry148 on November 27, 2010, 07:18:29 PM
When you set up training, you MUST save your training by clicking on "save training"   :)

My goalkeeper trains goalkeeping, and in training report he improved tackling, my forward trains speed, and he improved teamwork  ::)

I save my training and log out. Then I buy new player and try to set him  training and it shows me all players with default trainig, but they're trainig what I set up earlier. SO I set trainig for new player and then and then all them really go default...
Try to promote youth player and set trainig for him and then look at coaches and players assigned to them...
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on November 27, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
A "clear all" button would be handy.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on November 28, 2010, 01:12:23 AM
A "clear all" button would be handy.

Definitely, I've suggested your nice idea to the team.

Thanks
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Antonio on January 26, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Thank.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: perrito on February 09, 2011, 05:25:30 AM
Hello Everyone, I see that the trainers they don't have a evaluation in Strength, but there's an option to train that is Strength, how do we do to know if a trainer is good or not with the option strength?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: คนจริง on February 09, 2011, 06:21:42 AM
Hello Everyone, I see that the trainers they don't have a evaluation in Strength, but there's an option to train that is Strength, how do we do to know if a trainer is good or not with the option strength?

look at his "Fitness" attribute.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: dusit.chaiya on February 13, 2011, 09:30:29 PM
Attributes increase each day . These values are updated at 0:00 (server time).
Normally these figures increase less than one per day and when they accumulate to one they will be shown.
This means that two players that is shown to have equal points of passing skill doesn't always have to have
the same "actual" points.  For example, if two players has both 14 points of passing skill one might has 14.97 points
while the other has only 14.03 points.

The rate of improvement for a player depends on :

1. Progress rate of him. This rate can be view by a scout. -> This is the most important factor
2. Coach's ability to train the chosen training course.
3. Some club facilities affect this improvement.

This rate of improvement across different age groups can be explain belows.

-Players under the age of 17 has 0.8 times bonus of his normal increase rate.

-Players under the age of 19 has 0.5 times bonus of his normal increase rate.

-Players under the age of 21 has 0.2 times bonus of his normal increase rate

-Players over the age of 30 has an increase rate of 50% of his normal increase rate.
Attributes of a player in this age group has a chance to decline and this chance increase as the player age.
And if a player is over 33, he have a chance to retired from professional soccer career.

3. Some club facilities affect this improvement. It mean improve the Training Ground and Fitness Center? only or not. :D :-\ :(
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on February 15, 2011, 02:03:05 AM
Fitness Center helps improve "speed" and "strength" training course
while Training Ground help improve other training course.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: perrito on February 21, 2011, 05:03:00 AM
a player older than a 30 years when he trains he improves in some areas, but at the same time he is weak in some areas, he improves the same rate as he get weak, or he improves more than the rate that he gets weak?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: MD - Emre Yavuz - LT on February 23, 2011, 08:18:42 AM
Good and important topic.I posted (and translated) this in my national forum.

http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=484.0

a player older than a 30 years when he trains he improves in some areas, but at the same time he is weak in some areas, he improves the same rate as he get weak, or he improves more than the rate that he gets weak?

In common, weakening rate must be less then progress rate at the begining at this age group.But after some years maybe the weakening rate will be higher than progress rate. Also this maybe cause players to choose retire from football...
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: dusit.chaiya on February 28, 2011, 12:27:34 PM
Fitness Center helps improve "speed" and "strength" training course
while Training Ground help improve other training course.

Thank you very much bor.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: ultra_rosso_nero on March 06, 2011, 04:36:25 PM
I put the training to all my players. That is ok ?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on March 06, 2011, 05:45:26 PM
I put the training to all my players. That is ok ?

That's fine.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: guricito on April 02, 2011, 07:35:10 PM
When sabre if it has reached the maximum value of a certain skill..

Thank you for the advices and / or suggestions

Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on April 07, 2011, 03:08:44 PM
When sabre if it has reached the maximum value of a certain skill..

Thank you for the advices and / or suggestions

A player will not develop after he reaches his full potential.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Sopelana on August 08, 2011, 01:23:07 AM
Hi all,

This is a message to admin., it would be a great idea we can have a saved team, i mean, we can do one tactical and save it as default for other matches. In this way, it's bored to change all team for friendly and league matches.

Thank you for the play, and all suggestions we can have to do a better game, we will send you.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: cleric on August 08, 2011, 05:30:09 AM
Hi all,

This is a message to admin., it would be a great idea we can have a saved team, i mean, we can do one tactical and save it as default for other matches. In this way, it's bored to change all team for friendly and league matches.

Thank you for the play, and all suggestions we can have to do a better game, we will send you.


This ain't the right place to do this suggestion (that''s the Suggestion/Bugs subforum for). Apart from that, that suggestion has already been made.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Sopelana on January 30, 2012, 04:20:04 AM
from the rules:
Quote
"Specific skill training" allow you to focus on certain skills.This type of training guarantee an increase in the selected skill but the outcome of this training will be only 75% of the outcome of normal training. However, if your training ground is at level 4 (Good) you won't have this penalty. The same thing applies for fitness or speed training with fitness center of level 4 (Good).

question: is this section valid only for level 4 - good, or for level 4 and above (level 5 and 6)?


Is valid from level 4, I mean, level 4-5-6.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: tomnagel on February 07, 2012, 05:30:53 AM
Club facilities are normally not fully advanced and hence it affects improvement of players. http://forum.gokickoff.com/Smileys/onion/smiley.gif
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: DonDom on March 24, 2012, 04:44:47 PM
2 questions about training:

1. The coach does not influence the training effect of a player when playimg a game, right?
2. If a players CA is equal his LA or even higher, the coach has no more influence on daily training (it's zero anyway), right? So there's no need to give him a coach, right?

thanks in advance for your answer :-)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on March 24, 2012, 04:54:14 PM
1. The coach does not influence the training effect of a player when playimg a game, right?

He doesn't, it's based on player's Progress Rate only.

2. If a players CA is equal his LA or even higher, the coach has no more influence on daily training (it's zero anyway), right? So there's no need to give him a coach, right?

Exactly  :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: DonDom on March 24, 2012, 05:06:33 PM
fantastic, thanks for your quick reply! :-)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on March 24, 2012, 08:23:04 PM
How big training bonus player with LA=CA and PR 4 should get from league match?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on March 28, 2012, 04:23:55 PM
How big training bonus player with LA=CA and PR 4 should get from league match?

Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on March 28, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
When he has full in potencial only 0,02-0,03 . sometimes he get more because LA=CA in scout view don't mean that players is full. LA =1 is from 1,00 to 1,99 .
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: florinsteaua on March 28, 2012, 04:54:54 PM
why player with PR 5 take for the league match only 0.32...it should be 0.40 ???????? :o :D
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on March 28, 2012, 05:30:36 PM
I guess, you choose a specific trainnig for him. So he get only 75% of match trainning
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Littmann on March 28, 2012, 06:41:28 PM
why player with PR 5 take for the league match only 0.32...it should be 0.40 ???????? :o :D
My players with PR 5 and PR 6 gain 0.32.
I really don't know what is wrong.They are on specific Training but I have Good Training ground so they should not have any Training penalty.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on March 28, 2012, 06:53:23 PM
I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Littmann on March 28, 2012, 07:20:31 PM
I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.
Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on March 28, 2012, 07:54:40 PM
I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.
Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

check training page ingame
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on March 28, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.
Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

It was on this forum, I don't remeber in which topic . It is true, believe me. Try to set not specific training and you see that player gets  match training like this:
Quote
-League,WCL => 8 times the number of progress rate star.
-Cup => 6 times the number of progress rate star.
-Friendly match => 4 times the number of progress rate star.
-Nation team => 10 times the number of progress rate star.
-Nation u21 team => 8 times the number of progress rate star.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on March 28, 2012, 10:29:55 PM
I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.
Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

Here you have it:

Hi,

It's normal. Bonus from match is deducted at the rate of 20% if you choose specific training.
It does not depend on the level of the training facilities. Training facilities help only for daily training.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Littmann on March 29, 2012, 12:27:33 PM
I have told this already.He has still training penalty in match training when specific skill training is chosen.

But players don't get training penalty at daily training when training ground/ fittnes center is good or better.
Please find me your SOURCE for this kind of statement.I think that this level of training is connected with player performance (Rating) in the match.

Here you have it:

Hi,

It's normal. Bonus from match is deducted at the rate of 20% if you choose specific training.
It does not depend on the level of the training facilities. Training facilities help only for daily training.

OK,thanks.I didn't find it in Game Manual. But it is RETARDED rule!
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: endlessmeans on April 26, 2012, 04:22:45 AM
What affects a player's training more....the training room, or a good coach? Since I have enough money to improve only one...
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Littmann on April 26, 2012, 01:13:07 PM
What affects a player's training more....the training room, or a good coach? Since I have enough money to improve only one...
It's difficult to say,because of formula
The progress rate of the player + (progress rate of the player x (The level of the training facility/6)) + (progress rate of the player x (The skill of the coach/20))
I didn't buy 700 000 G Coach,sou I don't know which skill levels they have,but you can calculate from this formula what is the best option for you.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 26, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
At least to me, formulas aside, training facilities are a better choice....

They affect all your squad: it doesn't matter if you have 5 or 50 players to train, 1 coach can train at full strenght only 5 players, if you give him more, he will not do his work right.
Maintenance fees are far less expensive: Only one 700k coach takes about 15k weekly, so if you hire 2, you must consider your expenses will increase about 30k each week, training ground in good level takes 12k each week.
They can be upgraded without paying any compensation (if you have 5 coaches, you have to fire one, and must pay for that).

Honestly, having the money and formulas aside, i think training facilities are the better choice.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on April 26, 2012, 06:27:09 PM
I have to add that coaches have some age and I think they are going to retire someday. Facilities are bulid once forever :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on April 26, 2012, 07:45:34 PM
some time ago i have bought 700k coach.he has 15 working with y. and i dont mind my youth improving 1.5 times faster as they used to do (from daily training)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: endlessmeans on April 28, 2012, 05:12:58 AM
Name :     Timoteo Asis (702529)
Team :     CD Dark Oscuro FC
Age :     41 years old
Nationality :     Mexico
Wage :     14,223 G/ week
Attributes
Coaching
Attacking    18
Defending    7
Goalkeepers    7
Shooting    9
Setpiece    17
Ball Control    9
   
Tactical    18
Aerial    7
Fitness    16
Mental    13
Working with Youngsters    6
     
700k coach. Age 41. Retires 65+?

Hopefully in 21 seasons I will have sold a couple of players for a couple million....Facilities train everyone....coaches only 5 players at full potential. But only 7 youth pulls per seasons, and say...3 6+ star potential players...Hmmm....dilemmas....
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: florinsteaua on April 28, 2012, 06:48:23 AM
i see your couch have 18 on atacking...can you tell us how much improve daily players training by him and that have progress rate 4 or 5...it will help us...thanks :) ;D 8) :-*
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on April 28, 2012, 07:15:45 AM
Name :     Timoteo Asis (702529)

Attributes
Coaching

Working with Youngsters    6

It is very weak coach for training youth :(
Drawing coach is always lottery :( Building facilities is unfailing :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 08:56:00 AM
Name :     Timoteo Asis (702529)

Attributes
Coaching

Working with Youngsters    6

It is very weak coach for training youth :(
Drawing coach is always lottery :( Building facilities is unfailing :)

I have paid 750k for the Lottery of Skills a Coach brings (and this is one of the biggest failings of the game, imho - along with the lateness of prize money and Youth's being re-set). I have a few that rain Youths at over 30, and on who is unpretty and useless, but I'll stick with him until they let me pick a Coach's best two or three Skills (I got lucky with the last two, but the one who doesn't get to 30 for anything is a pain in the butt!!!) I could do with a 30+ Attack and Defence Coach, but I have no guarantee of getting one.... I have two monster Goalkeeping Coaches, lol.

Should I upgrade the YA (1.5m), Training (1.5m) or Fitness 1.2m)?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 28, 2012, 11:03:59 AM
Should I upgrade the YA (1.5m), Training (1.5m) or Fitness 1.2m)?

Your training facilities and fitness center are good level, i believe they're fine..... you need high PR players ASAP, i would improve youth academy...
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on April 28, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
@ Carlos were first because i was written to long , lol

If I were you, I would bulit the academy twice or even three times!! From bad to good asap then to very good for 4m. Are you builiding it know? Upgrading from bad to okey costs only 1 m G.

Very good facilities and good coaches are uselles if you havn't got any good youth. From my point of view for top level clubs youngsters worse then 6 in LA are too week . I'm training some 5 in LA only for sale, now. I predict that in next season I have to have all players 6 and more in CA to challenge for silverware in my country. PR is  even more important thing because players with PR4 I am training from 2 to 6 in CA in 2 seasons and with 5 in PR in 1,5 seasons respectively. Better academy better yougsters faster training, all in relationship, it is obvious :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
Apologies, yes only 1m...

I seem to do OK buying in kids, quite cheaply and letting my coaches work on them...

Also not all positions need high numbers in all Skills, so you can get a 5* CF better than a 6*, who has big numbers in Positioning, Tackling, Man Marking etc.........
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on April 28, 2012, 11:46:36 AM
Quote
Also not all positions need high numbers in all Skills, so you can get a 5* CF better than a 6*, who has big numbers in Positioning, Tackling, Man Marking etc.........
Yeah, but good 6* is better then 7* with bad skills :) Generally if skills are proper more in LA better player :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 11:49:09 AM
I agree, (although my 101G 6LA Keeper has stopped benefiting from training as a 5CA, and is only 21).

I have a 5CA forward with Finishing and Off the Ball of 17, lol.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on April 28, 2012, 11:55:17 AM
My GK with LA 6 has stopped benefiting from training as a 5CA, too. He is training in matches only.

I heve seen players with LA4 with skills abowe 15 so your forward isn't special :) LA is made from all skils, so good training is very importatnt.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 11:59:05 AM
Oh his CA is only 4, and I have another with CA of 3, with 17 and 15 for Finishing and Off the Ball, lol.

I can't seem to sell the latter, though!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: florinsteaua on April 28, 2012, 12:33:58 PM
Oh his CA is only 4, and I have another with CA of 3, with 17 and 15 for Finishing and Off the Ball, lol.

I can't seem to sell the latter, though!!!!!!!!!

how important is Pace for atackers?....and how much pace have yours ?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Acc 12, Pace 11... (his coring record is quite good, but has lost out in terms of game time to Gibbs this season..........)

http://www.gokickoff.com/team_player_detail.php?player_id=1800434
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 28, 2012, 01:36:46 PM
I agree, (although my 101G 6LA Keeper has stopped benefiting from training as a 5CA, and is only 21).

Keepers's improvement from training stop when they reach CA5, however his match bonus should be normal. Outfield players improves from training until CA reaches 7. Your keeper is okay, don't worry :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 02:12:36 PM
All his GK skills are good, plus a few key others, but it seems daft if he stops at 5, when his Limit is 6..........

(but then the whole game is daft, tbh)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 28, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
All his GK skills are good, plus a few key others, but it seems daft if he stops at 5, when his Limit is 6.........

Look at his last match, what was his improvement bonus? Were it 0.03 or were it normal?

You won't get CA6 from a keeper training him, he will stop, and the only way he will keep improving is playing matches, look carefully his match bonus, if his CA is 5, and his LA is 6, his match bonus should be normal, not the minimum match bonus that a player CA=LA or CA>LA receives.

Also consider that GK skills:

Until 13: they improve normally (match bonus should be 0.40, if PR is 5)
Between 13 and 17: they improve 1,5 times slower (match bonus should be around 0.24, if PR is 5)
Between 17 and 20: they improve 3 times slower (match bonus should be around 0.13, if PR is 5)

If you've got a LA8 outfiel player, you'll have the same issue when he reaches CA7.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 03:48:30 PM
He only got 0.12 on a Skill of 14 (as now, could have been lower before the game.........)

Not playing him today, as I have a new kid.......
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: florinsteaua on April 28, 2012, 05:12:12 PM
i dont understand why i received after my league game at the atackers only 0.20 Off the ball and they have PR 5...both have 15 at off the ball...it should be 0.32...explain me please why ??? :P :-[ :( :o
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 28, 2012, 06:50:36 PM
i dont understand why i received after my league game at the atackers only 0.20 Off the ball and they have PR 5...both have 15 at off the ball...it should be 0.32...explain me please why ??? :P :-[ :( :o

Are you using "Attack" or specific "Off the ball" schedule?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: florinsteaua on April 28, 2012, 07:26:59 PM

[/quote]

Are you using "Attack" or specific "Off the ball" schedule?
[/quote]

specific schedule Off the ball
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 28, 2012, 07:32:48 PM
specific schedule Off the ball

That's the reason, you've got 2 penalties:

* Ability is higher than 15
* Specific training reduces your match bonus 20%. It doesn't matter how good are your training facilities. To get a full bonus, switch between specific and general bonus before the match.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: blahblah on April 28, 2012, 08:24:14 PM
specific schedule Off the ball

That's the reason, you've got 2 penalties:

* Ability is higher than 15
* Specific training reduces your match bonus 20%. It doesn't matter how good are your training facilities. To get a full bonus, switch between specific and general bonus before the match.

That really is daft. So we have to change Training on Match days, even though we have paid for the Training Facilities.............
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: florinsteaua on April 28, 2012, 09:21:20 PM
specific schedule Off the ball

That's the reason, you've got 2 penalties:

* Ability is higher than 15
* Specific training reduces your match bonus 20%. It doesn't matter how good are your training facilities. To get a full bonus, switch between specific and general bonus before the match.

thanks a lot...i will switch to general but in this way he dont improve on the skill that i want...i will get 0.40 but on another skill if i put on trainning ball control or atack for example ....so i dont know whats worhtly...to get 0.20-0.32 on the skill that a want or to get 0.40 on randomly skill   :-\
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 28, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
If my player is still young (less than 19 years old) i use specific training, i don't care to have my bonus reduced... his skills are limited and i want to decide his trained skills.

If he's older... well, i think about it twice....
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on April 29, 2012, 09:10:19 AM
Im still not alowed to save new players training changes, admin, fix this bug
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 29, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
Im still not alowed to save new players training changes, admin, fix this bug

Do you still have this issue?

Have you tried to set your training in a different place? A friend had the same issue, and it was because his internet connection was bad.

Else, send them an email with some pics, it might help....
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on April 29, 2012, 12:03:08 PM
Im still not alowed to save new players training changes, admin, fix this bug

Do you still have this issue?

Have you tried to set your training in a different place? A friend had the same issue, and it was because his internet connection was bad.

Else, send them an email with some pics, it might help....

if my connection is bad then i wouldn't be able to change any training i guess. i can change and save older players training but not the new ones
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Kr10s on April 29, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
You haven't answered my question anyway  :P

The friend i menctioned was unable to save formations, but he was able to change training.....

Sometimes, internet connections gives you unexpected results.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: kingaly on September 06, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
What factors affect training form?  Does it have to do with facilities or coaches, or is it just random?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on September 06, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
What factors affect training form?  Does it have to do with facilities or coaches, or is it just random?

it depends only on luck and training workload
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: kingaly on September 06, 2012, 01:00:05 PM
In regards to training workload, bad form means I have them on too heavy of a training regime or not enough?
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Brian Clough on November 23, 2012, 11:16:16 PM
What factors affect training form?  Does it have to do with facilities or coaches, or is it just random?
training form is a probabilistic result based on the training workload you have set for each player. The probability of getting bad form is:
-50% for light workload
-5% for medium workload
-0% for heavy and very heavy workloads

In regards to training workload, bad form means I have them on too heavy of a training regime or not enough?
bad form just means the player didn't improve as much as he ought have
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: karlooo on April 10, 2013, 08:07:43 PM
How important it is to train Off the ball and Teamwork in pass game, and if anyone has an idea with skil affects more,  or are all equal?



 pass ball on floor

        Player Action : Creativity, Off the ball, Passing, Technique, Teamwork
        Opponent Player : Decisions, Positioning, Tackling, Marking

    pass high ball

        Player Action : Creativity, Off the ball, Crossing, Technique, Teamwork
        Opponent Player : Decisions, Positioning, Tackling, Marking
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: famouson17 on April 11, 2013, 07:29:53 AM
shit
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Mubashar on July 20, 2013, 06:25:00 AM
Hello everyone. Please help me by advising what training atrributes are required for FREE KICKS and CORNERS such as long shot, set piece, finishing and technique etc
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on July 20, 2013, 06:55:34 AM
Hello everyone. Please help me by advising what training atrributes are required for FREE KICKS and CORNERS such as long shot, set piece, finishing and technique etc
From rules: chapter 12 section Opportunities to score
Quote
    Corner : Setpiece, Crossing

    Freekick : Setpiece, Finishing, LongShots

    Penalty : Setpiece, Finishing, Technique
So I don't think there are more. Naturally experience gives some, too
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Mubashar on July 20, 2013, 05:13:14 PM

From rules: chapter 12 section Opportunities to score
Quote
    Corner : Setpiece, Crossing

    Freekick : Setpiece, Finishing, LongShots

    Penalty : Setpiece, Finishing, Technique
Thanks Ruta I will just consult the rules  :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Mubashar on July 20, 2013, 05:55:03 PM
Another question "IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE PROGESS RATE?"
I have observed some players (CA3/LA6) oscillate between PR3 and PR4 depending upon playing times while others (same CA3/L6) don't change.
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Drifter on July 21, 2013, 03:32:05 PM
 :-\ I'm curious.  What is the max stat that anyone has seen on the top coaches?  I have had several and have never seen a stat above 20.  Is 20 the highest stat or do coaching stats get higher?

 ;) For the record, coaches are certainly overpriced in comparison to the improvement they provide.  Those looking at this option should consider the financial aspect of this decision. 
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: gabrielis on July 21, 2013, 08:04:20 PM
Another question "IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE PROGESS RATE?"
I have observed some players (CA3/LA6) oscillate between PR3 and PR4 depending upon playing times while others (same CA3/L6) don't change.

PR is same in all games, there is no way to increase it
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: admin on August 21, 2013, 06:51:44 AM
Update
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on August 21, 2013, 03:13:23 PM

- Appearances in a match (play for more than 30 minutes) help a player improves his skills.
The amount of improvement depends on his rating and his progress rate. The improvement from appearances in a match

Is it a mistake or correct? Is it means that player with rating 9 get more  training then other with 5? If it is true better way is to play in lower league , get more wins then go promoted and get many looses!
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: marctiello on August 21, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
Before he is 24 you have so much time to fully develop him, no?  :)
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: Ruta on August 21, 2013, 04:08:09 PM
I polish games training looks normal so Admin had to make a mistake. Maybe with age and decline of PR , too
Title: Re: **Tips and Tricks** Training your players
Post by: JoseMou on August 21, 2013, 05:04:03 PM
PR drop 1 point when player reach 22 years. At 23 again drop 1 point, etc. Of course minimum is 1.