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Title: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Ruta on February 21, 2016, 09:09:50 AM
end of contracts. Sorry for former users , this is not userfriendly game!!! If LA/PR next to name player is young and still developing. IF no info players is old and/or developed/ cant develop more

la 13!!!!
Cruz Fernandes (8127629) 13/6

LA 12

Joel Oquendo (8093082)  12/4
Xiaotong Hu (8076187) 12/4
Fidel Vargas (5648568)

LA 11
Yera Sirimou (8102861) 11/3
Alfonso Salamanca (7687812)

Frido Zambrano (3001481)
Kosta Zahariev (2651387)  old chaps :P
Rossapon Thanajaroonrat (7045262) 11/1
Thinphat Boonnag (7093637) 11/1

La 10
Hugo J�rvi (8095776) 10/3
Arno M��rsepp (8116586) 10/4
J�ska Vencel (8122867) 10/5
Tarnoy Sangrungruang (7651485) 10/3
Khamphany Sundara (8102755) 10/3
Ivars Bite (8064868) 10/3
kamaluddin Wahiduddin (8064266) 10/3
Emilio Cardozo (8128884) 10/3
Masud Vader (8107144) 10/4
Mateus Rodrigues (8095810) 10/4
Warner Tinker (8109402) 10/3
Bernard Barta (8065304) 10/3
Leonardo Riquelme (8105810) 10/3
Faustino Ferreyra (7859334) 10/3
Savva Vasilyev (8069824) 10/3
Primitivo Arriola (8093149) 10/3


Shahir Yacoub (7621931)  10/2
Genaro Forestello (7333134)
Kareem Attia (7877389)
Masoud Haddad (8098183) 10/2
Heriberto Del (8085939) 10/3
Plamen Atanasov (7359246)
Sigfrid Magnusson (7062632)
Volker Samuel (8095750)
Derby Howland (6188780)
Petrica Cojocaru (6300746)
Lopaka Vidiri (7340128)
Eyob Kahangi (7075299) 10/1
Rangsan Yubamrung (6178452) 10/1
Sencer ?anl? (7862940)
Delbert Rowe (7427470)
Volodimir Safko (7616758)
Ruy Bustillo (4739620)



LA 9 some la 9 may be dont here. I do it fast :)
Jericho Saliba (8074122) 9/8
Gen Song (8120755) 9/6
Mori Wakil (8069240) 9/5
L?rinc Barna (8094864)

Getachew Naide (8066656)  9/4
Olaf Franke (8093485) 9/4
�ngel I��guez (8095664) 9/4
M?cis?aw S?owik (8120708) 9/4
Haris Waheed (8067136) 9/4
Tirath Nagaraja (8073890) 9/3
Jaka Milani? (8085954) 9/3
Oliver Kova? (8089005) 9/3
Rold�o Castro (8118322) 9/3
Ajas Simaku (8093487) 9/3
Axular Oyarzun (7705547) 9/3
Wesley Christinson (8064252) 9/3
Armando Souza (7694690) 9/3
Moyo Magambo (8077451) 9/3

Roberto Est�vez (7389233)
Roque Herner (8078193)
John Kersey (8282383)
Yvo Hofmeister (7616722)
Brent Bond (7666864)
Rodolph Honeycutt (8085300) 9/3
Garland Martell (8096036) 9/3
Kelsey Frye (8067999) 9/2
Rasim Zaimovi? (8069315) 9/3
Branko Vodenicharov (8065650) 9/2
Proteus Angelis (8070257) 9/3
Cronus Kalivas (8118515) 9/3
Khalfani Kanana (8067290) 9/3
Hondo Mesila (8067402) 9/2
Vaiga Tatafu (7622503) 9/3
Zufar Yassin (7631446)
Gnyawali Tandukar (7625131) 9/2
Xavier Rios (7389186)
Matheus Abreu (6648258)
Cleto Basurto (7022620)


LA 9 may be not all
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 09:13:55 AM
Frido Zambrano too is Free Player now.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Ewy on February 21, 2016, 09:18:44 AM
6 players out, random sample  ???
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: KRAGRA on February 21, 2016, 09:34:05 AM
My club:    Xenomorph:+:Barbarians (142879)


/FC/ LA7 V�clav Kr�lik (7032566) > free player

/GK/ LA6 Radovan Fabian (7032547)  > free player

u-21 player /DR/ LA8 I?ja Ondru� (8065289)  > free player

u-21 player /DM L,M L/ LA10 Bernard Barta (8065304) > free player

/DC/ LA7 Aubdol Chaichua (id?) (Thailand) > This player was not found.

/GK/ LA6 Alexander Antal (id?) (Slovakia) > This player was not found.

/FC/ LA 10 Qinan Fu (id?)  (China) > This player was not found.

/DR/ LA7 Woody Marlow (6638459)[/b] > free player



An urgent need to suspend the transfer market .


UNH Information about contracts not shown



 >:( :o ???
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Ruta on February 21, 2016, 09:35:37 AM
Kragra, if players didnt play NT he is erased now . Sorry again, friend :(
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 09:45:47 AM
An urgent need to suspend the transfer market .

Why?

I paid attention to my player's contract and I think I will have great affair now.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mathieu29 on February 21, 2016, 09:49:16 AM
This is really sad. In our league for example, some of the best teams have lost more than half of their player.
As a consequence, some good players will quit this game. This is, again, good news for the cheaters...
 :'(
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 09:51:25 AM
This is really sad. In our league for example, some of the best teams have lost more than half of their player.
As a consequence, some good players will quit this game. This is, again, good news for the cheaters...
 :'(

These are good news for anyone that paid attention to che contract that can make good affair.

Munckin will quit. Amen.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mathieu29 on February 21, 2016, 09:54:21 AM

Why?

I paid attention to my player's contract and I think I will have great affair now.

You are totally right spamrulez. Much more players will be available on the market.
But, on the other hand, it means that some teams will spend a lot of money to regain their lost capacity and propose higher salaries, due to that insane market system.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: KRAGRA on February 21, 2016, 09:56:25 AM
especially when my Budget -326.140 G
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Alex on February 21, 2016, 10:01:32 AM
It 'disappeared half the team! It 'a shame just premium
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
You are totally right spamrulez. Much more players will be available on the market.
But, on the other hand, it means that some teams will spend a lot of money to regain their lost capacity and propose higher salaries, due to that insane market system.

The high wages policy is suicidal.

especially when my Budget -326.140 G

You're double killed.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Ruta on February 21, 2016, 10:03:39 AM
It 'disappeared half the team! It 'a shame just premium
Premium users had no info about contracts ending like everyone.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Alex on February 21, 2016, 10:22:06 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: KRAGRA on February 21, 2016, 10:27:22 AM

Because not enough, that the my the best academy recruited all players with LA 5-6 and 7 this season, and even that I lost my players , just because the system will not show info UNH ?
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 10:45:33 AM
Because not enough, that the my the best academy recruited all players with LA 5-6 and 7 this season, and even that I lost my players ,

Me too.
My accademy didn't showed me players better than LA 5-8.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: matu84 on February 21, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
I had contracts.lost most of my mens.If its not a bug then nr1 team in estonia will quit this shit.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Alex on February 21, 2016, 10:52:05 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 11:08:17 AM
I had contracts.lost most of my mens.If its not a bug then nr1 team in estonia will quit this shit.

It's not a bug.

Many teams let their player's contract unrenewed then as the contracts expired the players have been fired.
Every capped one is now free agent all the others are erased from the database.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Kr10s on February 21, 2016, 11:12:27 AM
In the players page, there is a view mode that allow managers to see their player's contract, realizing that all those players were expiring was SO easy.....
Title: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: mihut on February 21, 2016, 11:55:12 AM
players leaving because of no contract renewal is a complete disaster! and that only happened because admin forgot to run the UNHappy update, last season. if things were running normal, this would not have happened.

ADMIN is to blame for what is going on. i wrote to him last season, when i saw the update was not happening, and he refused to answer or take any measures.

while my team hasn't been affected by today's massacre, i think it's totally unfair for so many teams to lose most of their players.

i think it's time for all of us to leave aside any potential gain we might take from this situation, because, overall, we all lose! there will be so many teams abandoned because of this situation, that we will all lose! the fun of this game is in competing. if there is no competition left, there is no fun.

let's write to admin and flood his e-mail, asking to reinstate a backup of the last season and automatically renew all 1 year left contracts and then reset the season again!

please, please, help everybody get their players back! help them stay in the game!

this is not about us taking advantage, it's about keeping the game alive!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: matu84 on February 21, 2016, 11:58:49 AM
This really sucks.put lots of time and efford into this game,but im glad it happened ..... i was waiting a push to quit this nonsenss a long time ago.i would like to tell the admin what i think of him but he never read nothing and wont care a bit so ...
peace!

Matu out!
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Kr10s on February 21, 2016, 12:02:26 PM
With all respect, admin is not the only guilty, we have the tools to realize that our player contract's are expiring. I have not been affected because when season 15 started, i updated all the contracts i needed, i paid higher wages during the season, but i kept my whole squad now.

If somebody tought that avoiding renewals during the season was a good idea, i might be a good one if he would have renewed the contracts during the 3 weeks postseason, nobody should blame admin for forgoting something like that.

The game is stuck? Yes
Admin have the game completely forgoten? Yes
Is the game turning more and more unfair? Sure!

But i don't think we should blame admin for some manager's mistakes.
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Kaiserz357 on February 21, 2016, 12:03:44 PM
Ha ha ha
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 12:06:15 PM
I just wrote him for the millionth time.


An Armagheddon just happened. Where is the staff? Let's talk serously about the future of this game. People are spending real money for this game and where is the staff? Cheaters are everywhere, the game is not updated, manual game too is outdated, new teams requires more than 1 month for receiving a league. Today a tsunami hit the game. A lot of teams are halved because of the contract renewal. This may not be the admin fault but where are the moderators? Where is the Admin? Why you don't communicate? What about the future of this game? Let's talk quietely. Please. Do something for this game that's your incoming source too.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 12:11:08 PM
This really sucks.put lots of time and efford into this game,but im glad it happened ..... i was waiting a push to quit this nonsenss a long time ago.i would like to tell the admin what i think of him but he never read nothing and wont care a bit so ...
peace!

Matu out!

Farewell.
I hope you will find fun in something else.
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: mihut on February 21, 2016, 12:22:51 PM
With all respect, admin is not the only guilty, we have the tools to realize that our player contract's are expiring. I have not been affected because when season 15 started, i updated all the contracts i needed, i paid higher wages during the season, but i kept my whole squad now.

If somebody tought that avoiding renewals during the season was a good idea, i might be a good one if he would have renewed the contracts during the 3 weeks postseason, nobody should blame admin for forgoting something like that.

The game is stuck? Yes
Admin have the game completely forgoten? Yes
Is the game turning more and more unfair? Sure!

But i don't think we should blame admin for some manager's mistakes.

yes, it's true, there are tools to see the players with 1 year contract, but you must consider that there are users that don't know the game in depth. or users that knew there will be unhappy players when the contracts are 2 years or less and had no idea this update didn't happen. or users that just forgot about renewal, because they were not remembered; they were used to be remembered about this issue. admin created a habit and then he left them high and dry.

while i think it's fair for those that knew and left it for the last minute and then forgot, i'm sure the vast majority are not in this situation.

i knew and i kept the wages low until the end of the season. only then, i renewed. but that's just me.
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: gabrielis on February 21, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
 
With all respect, admin is not the only guilty, we have the tools to realize that our player contract's are expiring. I have not been affected because when season 15 started, i updated all the contracts i needed, i paid higher wages during the season, but i kept my whole squad now.

If somebody tought that avoiding renewals during the season was a good idea, i might be a good one if he would have renewed the contracts during the 3 weeks postseason, nobody should blame admin for forgoting something like that.

The game is stuck? Yes
Admin have the game completely forgoten? Yes
Is the game turning more and more unfair? Sure!

But i don't think we should blame admin for some manager's mistakes.

I dont think that managers were avoiding paying more. I have lost half of my squad too but i have lost them for 2 reasons: i didn't check their contracts and first time ever the system didnt show unh players. Well, why would i check their contracts if the system is supposed to show when the contract is expiring?yet, its my mistake too, as a responsible manager i should have checked my players, and yet, if i see no unh players why i should check them?i have enought money to rebuild my team but saying that managers have lost some of their players only becouse of avoiding pay more..so far, i have seen 5 managers who were avoiding paying more in my league. 5x rest of the leagues and we should get a fancy number of managers who have lost some players (i saw one team with only 2 players) no offence 
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Kr10s on February 21, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
@gabrielis

Every team and every league are "a different world", i am really sorry if my comment offended somebody, i tried to be as polite as possible but it clearly is a complicated issue.

My main rival in Argentina Top Level (and also, the best friend that this game gave me) lost 5 players, 2 of them are NT players and he forgot the renewals. Many teams in my country lost many players, some teams here also have 2 or 3 players in their squad too and i wouldn't be surprised if the leave the game.

What happened today is a big mix of bad things:

* Admin have the game too abandoned for too long time, and his unability to fix really old issued placed us into this spot. A season ago, some of us said that "removing the UNH status was for a reason: avoiding UNH loaned players". Now we have a bigger problem.
* Some managers knew that their players's contract were 1 season left, but they decided to leave their contract at that point during the whole season and then forgot to renew (my friend's situation).
* Some managers knew about contracts, but forgot to renew them because they didn't see any UNH player? Really sorry, but as i said before, admin has a part of the blame, but not all of it.
* Some managers didn't knew about contracts? When a new manager start, all hisbplayers have a 3 season contract, so they had 3 seasons (more than a year) to find out about bit.

And the saddest part of it is that many people will leave the game (i wouldn't blame them, i woudln't start over in a dying game) and those who remain will have to deal with people who doesn't have any control on their finances (does somebody think about the posibility to grab a decent free player at a decent wage? Because i don't).

But in the end, we will all lose... "More people, more fun", that used to be GKO's motto, now it sounds like anbold dream... :(

EDIT: I forgot to say: in a different time, a warning between users in chat feed might happen, the lack of interaction among users is another proof of what's happening.
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Godball on February 21, 2016, 01:12:20 PM
@gabrielis

Every team and every league are "a different world", i am really sorry if my comment offended somebody, i tried to be as polite as possible but it clearly is a complicated issue.

My main rival in Argentina Top Level (and also, the best friend that this game gave me) lost 5 players, 2 of them are NT players and he forgot the renewals. Many teams in my country lost many players, some teams here also have 2 or 3 players in their squad too and i wouldn't be surprised if the leave the game.

What happened today is a big mix of bad things:

* Admin have the game too abandoned for too long time, and his unability to fix really old issued placed us into this spot. A season ago, some of us said that "removing the UNH status was for a reason: avoiding UNH loaned players". Now we have a bigger problem.
* Some managers knew that their players's contract were 1 season left, but they decided to leave their contract at that point during the whole season and then forgot to renew (my friend's situation).
* Some managers knew about contracts, but forgot to renew them because they didn't see any UNH player? Really sorry, but as i said before, admin has a part of the blame, but not all of it.
* Some managers didn't knew about contracts? When a new manager start, all hisbplayers have a 3 season contract, so they had 3 seasons (more than a year) to find out about bit.

And the saddest part of it is that many people will leave the game (i wouldn't blame them, i woudln't start over in a dying game) and those who remain will have to deal with people who doesn't have any control on their finances (does somebody think about the posibility to grab a decent free player at a decent wage? Because i don't).

But in the end, we will all lose... "More people, more fun", that used to be GKO's motto, now it sounds like anbold dream... :(

EDIT: I forgot to say: in a different time, a warning between users in chat feed might happen, the lack of interaction among users is another proof of what's happening.

I completely subscribe your words Kr10s.
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: gabrielis on February 21, 2016, 01:23:12 PM
@gabrielis

Every team and every league are "a different world", i am really sorry if my comment offended somebody, i tried to be as polite as possible but it clearly is a complicated issue.

My main rival in Argentina Top Level (and also, the best friend that this game gave me) lost 5 players, 2 of them are NT players and he forgot the renewals. Many teams in my country lost many players, some teams here also have 2 or 3 players in their squad too and i wouldn't be surprised if the leave the game.

What happened today is a big mix of bad things:

* Admin have the game too abandoned for too long time, and his unability to fix really old issued placed us into this spot. A season ago, some of us said that "removing the UNH status was for a reason: avoiding UNH loaned players". Now we have a bigger problem.
* Some managers knew that their players's contract were 1 season left, but they decided to leave their contract at that point during the whole season and then forgot to renew (my friend's situation).
* Some managers knew about contracts, but forgot to renew them because they didn't see any UNH player? Really sorry, but as i said before, admin has a part of the blame, but not all of it.
* Some managers didn't knew about contracts? When a new manager start, all hisbplayers have a 3 season contract, so they had 3 seasons (more than a year) to find out about bit.

And the saddest part of it is that many people will leave the game (i wouldn't blame them, i woudln't start over in a dying game) and those who remain will have to deal with people who doesn't have any control on their finances (does somebody think about the posibility to grab a decent free player at a decent wage? Because i don't).

But in the end, we will all lose... "More people, more fun", that used to be GKO's motto, now it sounds like anbold dream... :(

EDIT: I forgot to say: in a different time, a warning between users in chat feed might happen, the lack of interaction among users is another proof of what's happening.

none offence was taken ;) i agree with you 100%. as i said, as a responsible manager i should have checked the contracts. i am playing this game since season 1 and its first time unh players were not shown. And yes, it is sad that more managers will leave this game, and its day 1 in 16th season, a lot of managers didnt check their teams yet
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: matu84 on February 21, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
At the beginning last season,all my players was unhappy so i RENEWED they contract.minimum is 2 years so its impossible that i forgot it.explain this Kr10s!
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Kr10s on February 21, 2016, 01:37:56 PM
At the beginning last season,all my players was unhappy so i RENEWED they contract.minimum is 2 years so its impossible that i forgot it.explain this Kr10s!

Congratulations, you are only manager who got UNH players during season 15....
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Alex on February 21, 2016, 02:00:01 PM
Thrown in the years cease to work and play! will 'certainly our fault, but the game today sees many squdre destroyed and angry players and no more' paying. CONGRATULATIONS!
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Red on February 21, 2016, 02:04:18 PM
I blame only GKO team, when you run that kind of game you have to secure system. Simply code any contract as constant for next season with  possibility to fired a player if manager want to do that. Difficult?  But we all know they don't care at all :-X
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Harper on February 21, 2016, 02:13:52 PM
Well i've been speaking to peapole on polish chat about contracts... and they still didn't renew them. So it's mostly your own fault.
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Kr10s on February 21, 2016, 02:23:21 PM
Well i've been speaking to peapole on polish chat about contracts... and they still didn't renew them. So it's mostly your own fault.

Game forum is kinda unnactive too, but people were also warned here: http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=19890.0
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: mihut on February 21, 2016, 03:12:36 PM
i suggested to admin to run a backup of last season, extend all 1 year contracts and re-reset the season. i got an answer:

Please let me discuss with the technical team.

i hope it's possible
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: mihut on February 21, 2016, 03:16:33 PM
and the UNHappy update just happened. too bad admin forgot about it, last season
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Kr10s on February 21, 2016, 03:19:08 PM
i suggested to admin to run a backup of last season, extend all 1 year contracts and re-reset the season. i got an answer:

Please let me discuss with the technical team.

i hope it's possible

He should do it.
Else, the active user database will drastically drop
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: spamrulez on February 21, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
i suggested to admin to run a backup of last season, extend all 1 year contracts and re-reset the season. i got an answer:

Please let me discuss with the technical team.

i hope it's possible

Technical team?

Do you really think this game has a technical team?   ::) ???
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: mihut on February 21, 2016, 03:22:18 PM
Server is offline for maintenance.


good news?
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: mathieu29 on February 21, 2016, 03:22:36 PM
Connection with GKO server has just been lost.
Something is happening...
 ::)
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Kr10s on February 21, 2016, 03:34:46 PM
i suggested to admin to run a backup of last season, extend all 1 year contracts and re-reset the season. i got an answer:

Please let me discuss with the technical team.

i hope it's possible

Technical team?

Do you really think this game has a technical team?   ::) ???

We all know it doesn't have it, but it sounds like the game has serious staff behind don't you think?

Seems like something is gonna happen.
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: mihut on February 21, 2016, 03:40:55 PM
most likely, there is one guy contracted for the seasonal reset.

he obviously screwed up last season and now needs to repair the mistake.

or he had no idea about the update, maybe admin was supposed to tell him and admin forgot. in this case, admin should pay him extra to fix this situation, otherwise admin will lose a huge chunk of his clients and we will lose competitors, making the game less attractive, making us quit, making admin lose him source of income
Title: Re: DISASTER! Admin at fault
Post by: Brian Clough on February 21, 2016, 05:45:59 PM
i suggested to admin to run a backup of last season, extend all 1 year contracts and re-reset the season. i got an answer:

Please let me discuss with the technical team.

i hope it's possible

Technical team?

Do you really think this game has a technical team?   ::) ???

Of course it does  :P

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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Ruta on February 21, 2016, 06:14:22 PM
Do really something going on???? ha haha Can't wait for it ,lol
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: marctiello on February 21, 2016, 06:15:14 PM
The site is off now...maybe they are restoring the "status quo"? :D
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spamrulez on February 22, 2016, 04:53:13 AM
I think the Admin is making the restore before the season change and then is making another season change.

He may be right but he's irritating with this silence.
Why the community have to picture what's going on and not knowing it?
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Golex on February 22, 2016, 05:43:22 AM
Admin trying to repair the damage, but I do not know whether it is considering a possible new problem. What happens with young players that we yesterday promoted from the academy. I've got three new youth players (MC,AMC,FC 3/10/4 ,DMR 5/9/3 and MC,AMC 3/9/3) and maybe they will disappear after a new restart. This would be a new craze.
(http://upic.me/t/fn/2016-02-22.jpg) (http://upic.me/show/57922740)
Second problem  is that all managers have a loss because we could not make money from energy and as early as 2 days without training for young players.
I hope that my fears will not be really !!
This is getting crazy............
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: dantes on February 22, 2016, 07:12:50 AM
I totally agree with Golex. I did not pull any great players,but still, man got a point. Beside that, what about us who paid higer wages during all last season?! Why would irrespomsible managers who did not check what they should have advantages? Rolling game back would just show that game makes apsolutely no sense. If  game rules will not be followed, and that is only what left in this game, then shutting down is better than rolling back.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: dantes on February 22, 2016, 07:15:36 AM
And who will pay me back my euros paid for premium? I could not play game for two days!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: dantes on February 22, 2016, 07:23:54 AM
One more thing, you will breake the rules of the game , if you  roll back things. When I paid a premium , I agreed to the rules of the game and those rules obligate you. Without prior notice , the rules should not be changed . Therefore , legally speaking , premium users can sue you for this.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Predo on February 22, 2016, 07:31:53 AM
Also, I agree with both of you, Golex and Dantes.
In past season you could easily check if player has 1 year left of contract. And what now? You think in new season your players will be in your team with 0 years left of contract and waiting you to offer them new contract?! Please, be serious.

GKO staff is afraid of only one thing and it is losing real money from premium users. Of course, it is the only thing for this server mainteince.
I did not promoted new players but I support managers who promoted new talent players and now they are afraid will new players be in their team, after this mainteince.


Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Brian Clough on February 22, 2016, 07:44:44 AM
The site is off now...maybe they are restoring the "status quo"? :D

I hope you're right and admin is maintaining the status quo.

However, I think you really mean status quo ante
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Golex on February 22, 2016, 07:53:02 AM
Dantes, I agree with you. It is possible that the Admin solve the first problem and unexpectedly opened up new problems. What about the managers who bought the new tokens and with them  buy new young players which can disappear after a reboot. Admin can do more damage and just kill the game. Maybe this is the definitive end of the game ..... Maybe Admin is not supposed to make a new restart. Maybe, maybe ....
We have hope because we buy premium accounts and tokens via Paypal service, do not forget the money as possible for return!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sekac on February 22, 2016, 08:18:07 AM
I pull out 12/3 Fc 15 years from academy , what is it going to be with that player ?! If his gone I quiting the game admin!  :o :'(
Dantes, I agree with you. It is possible that the Admin solve the first problem and unexpectedly opened up new problems. What about the managers who bought the new tokens and with them  buy new young players which can disappear after a reboot. Admin can do more damage and just kill the game. Maybe this is the definitive end of the game ..... Maybe Admin is not supposed to make a new restart. Maybe, maybe ....
We have hope because we buy premium accounts and tokens via Paypal service, do not forget the money as possible for return!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sekac on February 22, 2016, 08:25:17 AM
I pull out 12/3 Fc 15 years and 5/9/3 Dml 17 years from academy , what is it going to be with that players ?! If his gone I quiting the game admin!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: marctiello on February 22, 2016, 08:37:44 AM
The site is off now...maybe they are restoring the "status quo"? :D

I hope you're right and admin is maintaining the status quo.

However, I think you really mean status quo ante

Yes Brian, i meant status quo ante...personally i did my job, i renewed contracts of players i wanted to keep, before season ending and i pull out an interesting LA10/4 DC who will be lost if we come back to the situation befor the seaon upgrade.
On the other side, two of the best portuguese teams lost almost all players...it is incredible... i will win the league next 4 seasons in a row in this situation, but i am not happy because we worked hard to reach the 9th place in league ranking and if now there will be only my team in good conditions for the WCC..we will go down in the ranking very fast...

So...i understand people who are angry now thinking into a "game reset" to help managers who lost players, but personally i would be happy if my league will survive!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: dantes on February 22, 2016, 08:46:33 AM
Rules are rules, man. And they must be equal for all. I paid whole last season high wages and now some people who was cheap to do it and irresponsible also, are complaining. No. Reset would be worst thing to do.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sekac on February 22, 2016, 08:58:40 AM
I agree with dantes ,
Rules are rules, man. And they must be equal for all. I paid whole last season high wages and now some people who was cheap to do it and irresponsible also, are complaining. No. Reset would be worst thing to do.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sekac on February 22, 2016, 09:04:27 AM
let's bring back the players with money they spared from smaller salaries through the season from free players !!!
Rules are rules, man. And they must be equal for all. I paid whole last season high wages and now some people who was cheap to do it and irresponsible also, are complaining. No. Reset would be worst thing to do.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mihut on February 22, 2016, 09:10:26 AM
stop being little cry babies, stop thinking small!

see the big picture!

with such an enormous amount of teams losing almost all the players, you would benefit on short term, by making your winning easy, but on the long run, the game will simply end! so many users will be upset and leave, leaving us without competition, making the game less fun and finally, making us quit, because it's no fun to win in a game without competition. well, it might be fun, for someone who's afraid of competition. is that who you are?

it's clear as daylight this situation was not user's fault. as you could see, shortly before the game being shut down, the [UNH]appy update happened. this clearly shows that last season was not a change in rules, but a huge mistake on admin's side. this mistake created yesterday's disaster.

it's obvious that the admin created a habit of announcing every user when his player's contracts were not in order, by displaying [UNH]. if no [UNH] is shown, users think the contracts are just fine. no need to check anything, no need to take any action. this is the normal running of the game. because no [UNH] status was shown last season, the vast majority of users had no idea the update never happened and thought all the contracts are in order.

remember: not all users stay online all the time, not all users read the forums, not all users know a lot about the game. but still, they are a very  important part of the gameplay. without them, the game would not be the same. now, because of this situation, many of them are in danger of quitting. do we really want this? i sure don't!

i did all my homework and renewed the contracts right after the last league match, so i have only to lose, by reverting to the backup of the last season, but it's a small inconvenience, compared to the alternative. i'm willing to accept the smaller of the 2 evils.

and so should all of you!

if not, shame on you! maybe this game would be better, without you!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: spoletino on February 22, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
if you do the reset of all, it is true that those who have lost players riavrebbe them, but it is unfair that those who have renewed the contracts and has spent a lot more money during the last season would find him to be penalized, while those who will regain the players riparmiato will also have a lot of money, this would be unfair
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mihut on February 22, 2016, 09:16:59 AM
Rules are rules, man. And they must be equal for all. I paid whole last season high wages and now some people who was cheap to do it and irresponsible also, are complaining. No. Reset would be worst thing to do.

1. why have you paid high wages the whole last season? you should have paid small wages and renew contracts after the league was over.

2. rules are rules. admin forgot to run the [UNH] update, breaking a rule that he created. this created this situation.

further more, by hot having [UNH] players the entire last season, it allowed you to save money and keep lower wages. if you renewed at the beginning of the season, too bad. in fact, you were the irresponsible one, that is complaining
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: dantes on February 22, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
Mihut, your offending post proves just one thing. You are an idiot. I fell sorry for your level of inteligence. We are not babies. We only want rules to be followed. If manager who is here from season 1 lose his players in such way, noone is blame beside himself. He should read rules by now.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sekac on February 22, 2016, 09:30:46 AM
only bad manager can afford to forget the players without a contract , the only fault is yours for your players are free and in case you're a little kid cry co to return , and do not think you're dangerous manager :)
stop being little cry babies, stop thinking small!

see the big picture!

with such an enormous amount of teams losing almost all the players, you would benefit on short term, by making your winning easy, but on the long run, the game will simply end! so many users will be upset and leave, leaving us without competition, making the game less fun and finally, making us quit, because it's no fun to win in a game without competition. well, it might be fun, for someone who's afraid of competition. is that who you are?

it's clear as daylight this situation was not user's fault. as you could see, shortly before the game being shut down, the [UNH]appy update happened. this clearly shows that last season was not a change in rules, but a huge mistake on admin's side. this mistake created yesterday's disaster.

it's obvious that the admin created a habit of announcing every user when his player's contracts were not in order, by displaying [UNH]. if no [UNH] is shown, users think the contracts are just fine. no need to check anything, no need to take any action. this is the normal running of the game. because no [UNH] status was shown last season, the vast majority of users had no idea the update never happened and thought all the contracts are in order.

remember: not all users stay online all the time, not all users read the forums, not all users know a lot about the game. but still, they are a very  important part of the gameplay. without them, the game would not be the same. now, because of this situation, many of them are in danger of quitting. do we really want this? i sure don't!

i did all my homework and renewed the contracts right after the last league match, so i have only to lose, by reverting to the backup of the last season, but it's a small inconvenience, compared to the alternative. i'm willing to accept the smaller of the 2 evils.

and so should all of you!

if not, shame on you! maybe this game would be better, without you!
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mihut on February 22, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
i say again: admin created the habit of announcing every user when there was a need to take any action, regarding the contracts. that was the rule. then, last season, he broke the rule.

so we both agree, we both want rules to be followed.

well, the game is back online and nothing seems to be wrong and apparently the players are back. this probably makes you very mad :))))))))))
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: dantes on February 22, 2016, 09:37:34 AM
Nope. Still feel sorry for people like you. I hope you will earn some tokens from loans. That shows what kind of man you are. Just like our dear admins. Money first. ;)
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mihut on February 22, 2016, 09:38:20 AM
Quote
only bad manager can afford to forget the players without a contract , the only fault is yours for your players are free and in case you're a little kid cry co to return , and do not think you're dangerous manager


maybe you should read carefully, i haven't lost any players. i have renewed all contracts right after the league matches finished, so this discussion is not about me losing any players, it's about all of us, losing the other users we compete against.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: dantes on February 22, 2016, 09:40:21 AM
And what about friendlies today, our dear admin?
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Kr10s on February 22, 2016, 11:10:36 AM
Mihut, your point is not entirely right and let me tell you why:
UNH status was removed WITHOUT NOTICE, i don't know how you run your preseason, but to me, the preseason is mostly to farm player's morale: in fact, last season ivstarted playing against teams that ended playing WCC this season, i am not connected 24/7 so i expected my players to turn UNH at any momento, so i renewed contracts, the same habit i used durin the previous 14 seasons i played GKO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT RESTORING THE DATABASE WAS NEEDED, isn't fair but it certainly was needed. But what about those who paid high wages the whole season or renewed contracts in time? Once again, fact proves us that cheating and doing things wrong is Ok.
And i will be beyond: all teams who recovered their players have them with the old wages, theirnwages are not even updated! In some cases, the players are CA7+ LA9+ amd their wage is around 2K, now they have their players, have another season to leave their wages untouched (if they care to farm only) and they've got another seasonnto keepnthe players there, playing for only 2K/week.
Not to menction that those players can be sold, and in some situations, they are worth millions! So lhe least i expected was CONTRACTS UPDATED, no tjust renewed.

So i understand that this move was needed, but no reward to good managerial moves and no penalties to bad managerial moves? Show must go on i guess.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Ruta on February 22, 2016, 11:25:33 AM
Good point Carlos. My very 1st thought was about that. Good manegers lost money whole season.
Anyway it is good move to reload database.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sopelana on February 22, 2016, 11:34:45 AM
Mihut, your point is not entirely right and let me tell you why:
UNH status was removed WITHOUT NOTICE, i don't know how you run your preseason, but to me, the preseason is mostly to farm player's morale: in fact, last season ivstarted playing against teams that ended playing WCC this season, i am not connected 24/7 so i expected my players to turn UNH at any momento, so i renewed contracts, the same habit i used durin the previous 14 seasons i played GKO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT RESTORING THE DATABASE WAS NEEDED, isn't fair but it certainly was needed. But what about those who paid high wages the whole season or renewed contracts in time? Once again, fact proves us that cheating and doing things wrong is Ok.
And i will be beyond: all teams who recovered their players have them with the old wages, theirnwages are not even updated! In some cases, the players are CA7+ LA9+ amd their wage is around 2K, now they have their players, have another season to leave their wages untouched (if they care to farm only) and they've got another seasonnto keepnthe players there, playing for only 2K/week.
Not to menction that those players can be sold, and in some situations, they are worth millions! So lhe least i expected was CONTRACTS UPDATED, no tjust renewed.

So i understand that this move was needed, but no reward to good managerial moves and no penalties to bad managerial moves? Show must go on i guess.

And what about my team that upgrade the wage room because of all the free players I was going to buy and now is unuseful?. And like you said, the extra-wages of all the season we paid ...

I agree that was necessary the restore, but this collateral effect must be solved too (and the non played friendlies).

Cheers!!!.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mihut on February 22, 2016, 12:24:36 PM
Mihut, your point is not entirely right and let me tell you why:
UNH status was removed WITHOUT NOTICE, i don't know how you run your preseason, but to me, the preseason is mostly to farm player's morale: in fact, last season ivstarted playing against teams that ended playing WCC this season, i am not connected 24/7 so i expected my players to turn UNH at any momento, so i renewed contracts, the same habit i used durin the previous 14 seasons i played GKO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT RESTORING THE DATABASE WAS NEEDED, isn't fair but it certainly was needed. But what about those who paid high wages the whole season or renewed contracts in time? Once again, fact proves us that cheating and doing things wrong is Ok.
And i will be beyond: all teams who recovered their players have them with the old wages, theirnwages are not even updated! In some cases, the players are CA7+ LA9+ amd their wage is around 2K, now they have their players, have another season to leave their wages untouched (if they care to farm only) and they've got another seasonnto keepnthe players there, playing for only 2K/week.
Not to menction that those players can be sold, and in some situations, they are worth millions! So lhe least i expected was CONTRACTS UPDATED, no tjust renewed.

So i understand that this move was needed, but no reward to good managerial moves and no penalties to bad managerial moves? Show must go on i guess.

And what about my team that upgrade the wage room because of all the free players I was going to buy and now is unuseful?. And like you said, the extra-wages of all the season we paid ...

I agree that was necessary the restore, but this collateral effect must be solved too (and the non played friendlies).

Cheers!!!.


carlos, i've never said it's the perfect situation. it's the lesser worse of the 2 situations. it had to be done, for the game to keep a huge amount of users, that otherwise would have quit.

the current situation, even with those players on the same contracts, is far better then the previous situation. no penalty to others, that are not as good managers as we are, is something i'm willing to accept, considering the alternative. hell, i'm even happy, because the other users get to keep playing. and i repeat, i had absolutely no players lost.

moving on to what you said about removing unh status without notice. the unh status was not removed. i consider removing as an intentional action, as something planned and something that is there to stay. last season we had no unh status, because of an error. i consider a proof to support this statement in the fact that the unh status was updated as usual, this season, a few hours after the season's reset and minutes before the error-fixing shut down. this is how it used to be in the past seasons, sometimes maybe with a delay, like a day, max.

i also use the preseason to boost morale. and i also renew contracts, but i have a system. i am online very often, actually, i have a computer that runs pretty much non-stop, some applications, and i keep the browser on and whenever i want, i just take a look to see if i have any new messages or pretty much take care of the details.

now, back to how i managed the renewal, last season: i renewed to the players i sent on loan, of course. actually, i think i had 2 on 1 year contracts so i was forced by the system to renew. i also had  another one that i think it was on a 3 year contract and i was sending him away, but i wanted to be sure he won't be unhappy at his new team, so i was waiting and waiting for the unhappy update. the update never happened and the other user wanted to take him, no matter what, so i sent him away without renewing his contract (he might have not liked his salary, even with a 3 years contract).

for the rest of the players, i just waited for the update, thinking that, for as long as i keep the old contracts, i save money. and it was the right thing to do, as the update never happened. i only renewed after the league was over, only to the players on a 1 year contract (usually, the players with 2 years contracts would become unhappy, but now, it seems that only the ones with 1 year do. or that's how it's in my team).

but again, i'm a user that takes care of the details, reads the forum, knows a few things about the game. there are others that aren't paying so much attention and are playing other managers, some are playing many other managers, so it's understandable to miss this aspect, since they were used to receive a warning for each player that had a contract issue.

again: they knew they were being shown if there's a problem. if no warning appeared, it's only natural to conclude everything is fine and to disregard this aspect of the game. now they see there is a problem and they can act. if they will not renew, then forget and lose the players, they have no excuse and they should suffer the consequences. but for last season, they were not told to renew, by a system that had taught them to wait until they are being told to renew.

to me, this is like you would have a green light and them be told to slow down, even stop to make sure nobody is running the red light to hit you. they had the green light from the system, but the system also showed green light, where the red light was supposed to be.




Sopelana: i don't think you upgraded the player room, yesterday, after seeing so many free players (it takes 2 weeks to take effect) to buy players that would expire in only a few days. further more, with so many teams short of players, they were being forced to buy, no matter the price, so they were also your competition in the bidding process.

the free players were not all the players lost, they were only the ones used in national teams. this is only a fraction of the players lost and that fraction was desired by all those wanting to keep playing (and lost players), plus those wanting a good deal. i don't really think that was a time for a good deal, as a buyer, but as a seller.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Ruta on February 22, 2016, 01:03:57 PM
And what when somebody don't want capped players and want to go them free ? They will earn money another season :p
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sopelana on February 22, 2016, 01:18:45 PM
Mihut, your point is not entirely right and let me tell you why:
UNH status was removed WITHOUT NOTICE, i don't know how you run your preseason, but to me, the preseason is mostly to farm player's morale: in fact, last season ivstarted playing against teams that ended playing WCC this season, i am not connected 24/7 so i expected my players to turn UNH at any momento, so i renewed contracts, the same habit i used durin the previous 14 seasons i played GKO.

I UNDERSTAND THAT RESTORING THE DATABASE WAS NEEDED, isn't fair but it certainly was needed. But what about those who paid high wages the whole season or renewed contracts in time? Once again, fact proves us that cheating and doing things wrong is Ok.
And i will be beyond: all teams who recovered their players have them with the old wages, theirnwages are not even updated! In some cases, the players are CA7+ LA9+ amd their wage is around 2K, now they have their players, have another season to leave their wages untouched (if they care to farm only) and they've got another seasonnto keepnthe players there, playing for only 2K/week.
Not to menction that those players can be sold, and in some situations, they are worth millions! So lhe least i expected was CONTRACTS UPDATED, no tjust renewed.

So i understand that this move was needed, but no reward to good managerial moves and no penalties to bad managerial moves? Show must go on i guess.

And what about my team that upgrade the wage room because of all the free players I was going to buy and now is unuseful?. And like you said, the extra-wages of all the season we paid ...

I agree that was necessary the restore, but this collateral effect must be solved too (and the non played friendlies).

Cheers!!!.


carlos, i've never said it's the perfect situation. it's the lesser worse of the 2 situations. it had to be done, for the game to keep a huge amount of users, that otherwise would have quit.

the current situation, even with those players on the same contracts, is far better then the previous situation. no penalty to others, that are not as good managers as we are, is something i'm willing to accept, considering the alternative. hell, i'm even happy, because the other users get to keep playing. and i repeat, i had absolutely no players lost.

moving on to what you said about removing unh status without notice. the unh status was not removed. i consider removing as an intentional action, as something planned and something that is there to stay. last season we had no unh status, because of an error. i consider a proof to support this statement in the fact that the unh status was updated as usual, this season, a few hours after the season's reset and minutes before the error-fixing shut down. this is how it used to be in the past seasons, sometimes maybe with a delay, like a day, max.

i also use the preseason to boost morale. and i also renew contracts, but i have a system. i am online very often, actually, i have a computer that runs pretty much non-stop, some applications, and i keep the browser on and whenever i want, i just take a look to see if i have any new messages or pretty much take care of the details.

now, back to how i managed the renewal, last season: i renewed to the players i sent on loan, of course. actually, i think i had 2 on 1 year contracts so i was forced by the system to renew. i also had  another one that i think it was on a 3 year contract and i was sending him away, but i wanted to be sure he won't be unhappy at his new team, so i was waiting and waiting for the unhappy update. the update never happened and the other user wanted to take him, no matter what, so i sent him away without renewing his contract (he might have not liked his salary, even with a 3 years contract).

for the rest of the players, i just waited for the update, thinking that, for as long as i keep the old contracts, i save money. and it was the right thing to do, as the update never happened. i only renewed after the league was over, only to the players on a 1 year contract (usually, the players with 2 years contracts would become unhappy, but now, it seems that only the ones with 1 year do. or that's how it's in my team).

but again, i'm a user that takes care of the details, reads the forum, knows a few things about the game. there are others that aren't paying so much attention and are playing other managers, some are playing many other managers, so it's understandable to miss this aspect, since they were used to receive a warning for each player that had a contract issue.

again: they knew they were being shown if there's a problem. if no warning appeared, it's only natural to conclude everything is fine and to disregard this aspect of the game. now they see there is a problem and they can act. if they will not renew, then forget and lose the players, they have no excuse and they should suffer the consequences. but for last season, they were not told to renew, by a system that had taught them to wait until they are being told to renew.

to me, this is like you would have a green light and them be told to slow down, even stop to make sure nobody is running the red light to hit you. they had the green light from the system, but the system also showed green light, where the red light was supposed to be.




Sopelana: i don't think you upgraded the player room, yesterday, after seeing so many free players (it takes 2 weeks to take effect) to buy players that would expire in only a few days. further more, with so many teams short of players, they were being forced to buy, no matter the price, so they were also your competition in the bidding process.

the free players were not all the players lost, they were only the ones used in national teams. this is only a fraction of the players lost and that fraction was desired by all those wanting to keep playing (and lost players), plus those wanting a good deal. i don't really think that was a time for a good deal, as a buyer, but as a seller.

Why you don't trust me??

I upgraded because many players on my team was going to became unhappy, it means salaries from 9K to 40k in some cases. I had 17 players bided, so I needed to solve unhappy status asap, after I would buy some players.

http://imgur.com/6J6bW7i (http://imgur.com/6J6bW7i)


I will trust in your maths to solve when I did it .. ;)

Finally, I would like to say again that I  agree with the backup they did, it was necessary to all, even some users did our work at time. .

Cheers.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sopelana on February 22, 2016, 02:09:40 PM
I would add something that "nobody" think about it, for sure, what happens with users that didn't want to renew contracts because they wanted to fire players?. In Spain we have a case and he is very angry. Now he must to pay for fire those players.

These cases must be solved too. But like it's not a problem if one leave ... maybe admin. did "his" justice ... and all is ok.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mihut on February 22, 2016, 04:53:07 PM
it's not that i don't believe you have upgraded, but i believe buying was not the only reason. i just think you needed to upgrade anyway
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Sopelana on February 22, 2016, 05:02:27 PM
it's not that i don't believe you have upgraded, but i believe buying was not the only reason. i just think you needed to upgrade anyway

Ok, I had before upgrade +550.000 for salaries. After I solved unhappy status, I have salaries for 395.000k, why I need to improve to the best wage room? Because I had 17 player bided. So If I bought many of them, I couldn't solve UNH status, so I decided to upgrade asap, cause as you know 2 week are needed to improve. In that way I could buy players, and in 2 week, solve the increase of my unhappy players after wage room was built.

But now, I have a wage room that I don't need for 2M and exta cost of 5K every week because other users didn't their job  ...

Like Carlos said, it was necessary but unfair ... I agree with him.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: mihut on February 22, 2016, 05:19:16 PM
ok, now i understand.

you postponed the renewal of this season's unh status, in order to buy players. it's different than how i see things, that's why i didn't understand. i would first take care of all unh, to make sure i have a full strength team and not make errors in championship, that could prove costly at the bottom line. only after, i would take care of other stuff.

but then again, i never buy any players at all, so it's only natural to put renewal of key players as my priority.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Drifter on February 22, 2016, 08:53:00 PM
 ;) Admin should make it fair by offering some other penalty to teams getting their players back.
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: Brian Clough on February 25, 2016, 06:18:41 AM
;) Admin should make it fair by offering some other penalty to teams getting their players back.

agreed.

if some players lost GKO money by playing by the rules, those who made a mistake should pay too  ???

I say charge a penalty equal to 1/2 player(s) est. value, regardless of LA
except no penalty for players over 30

 ;)
Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on June 24, 2023, 02:01:26 AM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on July 04, 2023, 01:13:33 PM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on September 12, 2023, 12:55:40 PM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on October 04, 2023, 02:19:59 PM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on December 04, 2023, 12:31:11 PM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on January 04, 2024, 09:46:21 AM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on February 10, 2024, 05:14:06 AM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on March 03, 2024, 08:13:05 AM
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Title: Re: Armagedon. Players without contract
Post by: GregoryUnubs on April 02, 2024, 09:41:52 PM
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