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Title: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: admin on June 20, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
The picture below shows the effectiveness of the selected tactics...

Effectiveness is denoted by up-arrow, down-arrow, or nothing.

Nothing means the selected tactics is so-so.
Down-arrow means the selected tactics is ineffective.
Up-arrow means the selected tactics is effective.
-> Number of up-arrows shows the effectiveness of the selected tactics. (The more, the better)
-> This have an affect on the number of hearts.

Number of hearts shows the quality of players in the field (except the keeper)
=> (Net ability of a player in his playing position x ENV) + the above effectiveness (up-arrows and down-arrows)

Higher number of hearts of your team than the opponent means that the overall capability of your team is better.
(This does not include formation and events)

***** In sum, the number of hearts is just part of your team performance. There are, however, other factors affecting your
team performance such as individual tactics, formation, etc.

(http://pic.gokickoff.com/images/season3/tacticsss.jpg)

FAQ
1. If the number of hearts of your team is less than your opponent. Does it mean that your team will loose ?

Not always because there are other factors like formation and events that affect the game.
Even though, your team maintain less possession and has smaller number of hearts but if your events
are effective you can have more shooting opportunities.

2. Is the number of hearts related to the possession percentage ?

Yes, possession percentage increases as the difference in the number of hearts
between your team and your opponent increases. However, there are other factors such as team formation.
Attacking formations tend to let your team have more ball possession than defensive formations.
But a defensive formation decreases the shooting opportunities of your opponent.

3. How to increase the number of hearts ?

Try to make your tactics to be effective (3-4 up-arrows for each plan, for example).
Different players are used in different strategies. (please read the manual).
Using which strategy also depend on your opponent.
If your are not sure, it is advisable to set it as default.
 
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: MD - Emre Yavuz - LT on June 20, 2011, 01:53:34 PM
These up and downs are related with opponent tactics ?
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: admin on June 20, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
These up and downs are related with opponent tactics ?

Yes.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: tenpz on June 20, 2011, 02:45:26 PM
Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: SeppIbra on June 20, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
Thanks  :D

Very useful  ;)
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: newbie on June 20, 2011, 03:05:14 PM
Is this  the  result  for only that match    ?

i mean  if  i  use  the same  tactic in next match  maybe  the  result will be   better or worst .

 :( :(
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: gabrielis on June 20, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
all depends on your oponents tactic and if you will use same players,i think there isn't 1 decent tactic wich can beat all others
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: SeppIbra on June 20, 2011, 03:50:37 PM
Tactic is essential, but without right players you can't do anything. With an excellent tactic you can be strong, but with an excellent tactic and excellent players you are invincible
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: cutmy on June 22, 2011, 02:14:12 PM
thx
 :D
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: BENZAMAN on June 25, 2011, 09:11:16 AM
 ::) :-\
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: golf5 on June 30, 2011, 11:58:32 AM
 8) thanks
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: blahblah on June 30, 2011, 12:43:37 PM
all depends on your oponents tactic and if you will use same players,i think there isn't 1 decent tactic wich can beat all others

I think all Bots are set the same, so yes one tactic will probably get you to the top 3 in the League, quite easily.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: คนจริง on July 03, 2011, 02:25:51 AM
Tactic is essential, but without right players you can't do anything. With an excellent tactic you can be strong, but with an excellent tactic and excellent players you are invincible

I agree.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Mr.Es on July 07, 2011, 05:07:26 AM
Number of hearts shows the quality of players in the field (except the keeper)
=> (Net ability of a player in his playing position x ENV) + the above effectiveness (up-arrows and down-arrows)

What is ENV? ::)
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: cleric on July 07, 2011, 05:32:54 AM
Number of hearts shows the quality of players in the field (except the keeper)
=> (Net ability of a player in his playing position x ENV) + the above effectiveness (up-arrows and down-arrows)

What is ENV? ::)

Gokickoff Match engine version 2.0 (http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=1006.0)

Quote
We have added a new attribute call "env" which controls every players' performance in a match. (maximum is 100%)
A player will not perform exactly 100% as his attributes shown in his player's profile.
There are factors affecting his performance as follows...

1. Experience - The higher experience, the better chance he plays well regularly.
2. Morale
3. Proficiency of him in the chosen playing position.
4. Condition - Won't have penalty if his condition is over 92%.
5. Adaptation to the team.

You can't just evaluate a player's ability by the number of stars in the scout report
since it is calculated from the overall ability ignoring his playing position.

The system evaluates the net ability of a player in his playing position and multiply by env.
**  From now on, when we talk about the ability of a player we refer to this ability.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Mr.Es on July 07, 2011, 06:45:52 AM
Thanks. 8)
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Ewy on July 07, 2011, 08:44:34 AM
These factors have the same effect in international matches? For example, morale. Players from bad teams not nominated???
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Ewy on July 08, 2011, 06:32:15 PM
Pls help me, I want to make a nomination  :-\
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Ewy on July 11, 2011, 11:21:06 AM
Soliloquy  :-[
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: admin on July 11, 2011, 01:31:38 PM
Morale, rating, and condition have influence on any competition.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Superfrancis on August 04, 2011, 04:55:37 PM
Hello guys, I have a question to ask yourself, hearts initial ones that give the total value of the team (Average Ability of players) that changes depending on the opponent, or meetings, is always the same, namely, I noticed that you do not go well three hearts, three hearts diminish if they face a team of peers? address or any team I'll always have three hearts but stronger?
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: admin on August 09, 2011, 11:43:18 PM
Hello guys, I have a question to ask yourself, hearts initial ones that give the total value of the team (Average Ability of players) that changes depending on the opponent, or meetings, is always the same, namely, I noticed that you do not go well three hearts, three hearts diminish if they face a team of peers? address or any team I'll always have three hearts but stronger?

Average Ability of players (AAoP) = Player Ability x ENV

Average performance of players  = AAoP + Efficiency tactics

Average Ability of players changes as  players' ability increase or players' ENV increase. It doesn't depend on the opponent.

But effectiveness of the selected tactics depends on the opponent.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Aquilicua on August 17, 2011, 11:12:31 PM
In my 2 last matches, my AAoP, was higher than my opponent and my APoP too.

You say:

- Use standing philosophy if you are sure that your team is better than your opponent.
- Use dynamic philosophy if you certain that you will have a hard time defeating your opponent.

I used standing philosophy (I was better than my opponent, in hearts and opportunities), but I don't have an up arrow. How is it possible?

More, in my last friendly match, I used dynamic philosophy (I was better than my opponent, in hearts and opportunities), but I had a up arrow... and I don't understand why...

Could someone tell me why?
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: admin on August 18, 2011, 03:48:45 PM
Hi,

Standing philosophy make you team squads play as plan. Whereas in contrast, dynamic philosophy
allows your team to play better or worse depending on your luck (Randomly).

Players' performance will fluctuate more if you choose very dynamic.
Players' performance will not fluctuate much if you choose standing and very standing.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Aquilicua on August 19, 2011, 08:22:41 AM
OK, thanks a lot!

You have a hard job for make of GKO a great simulator. Great job for the moment!(I remember PM... but it could be better).

Another question is there's no inconvenient. Why, if I don't chose any creative freedom (default), I had a down arrow? I expected the result was "nothing".

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: admin on August 23, 2011, 09:18:09 AM
OK, thanks a lot!

You have a hard job for make of GKO a great simulator. Great job for the moment!(I remember PM... but it could be better).

Another question is there's no inconvenient. Why, if I don't chose any creative freedom (default), I had a down arrow? I expected the result was "nothing".

Thanks a lot!

You have to set  creative freedom as "more-disciplined" if you want the result to be "nothing".
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Brian Clough on October 13, 2011, 01:32:16 AM
Here's my question: Are the arrows determined solely by the players' averages (modified by morale, experience, etc), or are they compared with those of the opponent's players and/or tactical choices somehow?
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: DonDom on October 13, 2011, 05:52:09 AM
as far as I can tell, the arrows are very much influenced by the opponents tactic, player skills.
Just play the same tactic with the same players twice against two different opponents...
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Brian Clough on October 13, 2011, 05:08:57 PM
That's what I think too, but it's not explained anywhere that I can find. :(
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: stepsean on March 02, 2013, 06:53:18 AM
 :) okay thank you
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: helyjblake on August 11, 2013, 11:53:13 AM
I think this is based on proven results.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Nory Levi on September 01, 2013, 12:40:38 AM
But remember,many hearts does not mean that you played better than your opponents,you just keep more possesion
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: rossemzara on January 12, 2014, 12:54:06 PM
I've spent a few minutes reading this and I am so happy to learn a lot here. thanks guys.  ;)
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: PW Team on February 11, 2015, 03:23:38 PM
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: rena36704 on April 23, 2016, 08:47:32 AM
Thanks  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Drifter on April 23, 2016, 12:30:06 PM
 ;) If the number of stars does not determine which team played the best and who will win and since hearts is also a nonindicator of success, what then is the most useful tool to determine if your tactics and players will beat another team. What are these hidden, unspoken rules about winning that are not disclosed in the notes we get from the reports?
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Andy on April 23, 2016, 05:20:55 PM
Goals and points?
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Andy on April 24, 2016, 12:42:31 PM
To be honest, I think the number of hearts is a good indication of how effective your team tactics have been. Admin has always said that success is not all about team tactics and I think he means that individual brilliance also comes into it. You can see this with direct play and/ or defensive tactics where you team might get outplayed but your striker scores the winner from your only shot of the game or sometimes you spot and exploit a weakness in an opponents team e.g a particular flank or float crosses. Howver, in my opinion the only way to control a game is through team tactics, if you are not the strongest team, there are things you can do that will you a chance but you will need luck to be successful.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Drifter on April 24, 2016, 01:20:14 PM
 ;) Basically the match computer does what it wants in my opinion. I can show you a game where I have four arrows up in all departments but still lose the game. Not that any of my players played poorly. They totally dominated in the performance catagory. Simply put, they did everything but win. I'm not sure I put much faith in reports anymore.. It's total BS especially when they add things like luck to cover it up.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: Ruta on April 24, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
Guys, this is team report. But in Gko as in every game is still room for personal efforts. So your team can perform well but someone from other team can make a shot or do a dribble as well and change a result. Frankly speaking I think there is too much from one man actions and corners in GKO.  After many season I was push to change my team play.
Title: Re: Effectiveness of the selected tactics
Post by: cocore on May 14, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
Thanks :D :D