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Title: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on November 30, 2010, 10:08:41 AM
Cheating is strictly prohibited in GokickOff.
Anyone caught cheating will be penalized severely.

Please guys, don't perform activity damaging to the world of GoKickOff.

And if you believe you have caught a cheater, please report us.

Example of cheating : sign up two accounts and exchange players between these accounts.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: SeppIbra on November 30, 2010, 10:28:03 AM
If I have some suspect, I say you it immediately
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Aureliano71 on December 03, 2010, 02:35:06 AM
I hope you already noticed i reported some italian cheaters. It's important to check daily the transfers in every country and pay attention to new accounts cause sometimes they use similar squad names or nicks.

You cannot do everything alone, hopefully you could find somebody in every country to help you.
I can't be involved in responsibilities like Moderator or similar cause i'm on vacation now and i will go back to work very soon, but you really need this kind of helpers, or you will become crazy...

Bye
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on December 03, 2010, 03:29:29 AM
I hope you already noticed i reported some italian cheaters. It's important to check daily the transfers in every country and pay attention to new accounts cause sometimes they use similar squad names or nicks.

You cannot do everything alone, hopefully you could find somebody in every country to help you.
I can't be involved in responsibilities like Moderator or similar cause i'm on vacation now and i will go back to work very soon, but you really need this kind of helpers, or you will become crazy...

Bye

Thanks for your concern. May be in the future we'll have a least one moderator for each country.

Have a nice holiday !

Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: SeppIbra on December 03, 2010, 03:46:05 PM
That's right. For find some cheater in Italy I also control if someone accesses from the same IP. No one here wants scams! :-D Go away cheaters! :-P
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Calin on December 03, 2010, 06:33:09 PM
That's right. NO MERCY ... >:(
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: SeppIbra on December 03, 2010, 06:37:02 PM
Eheheh  8)
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: MvcL on December 03, 2010, 07:59:27 PM
Beware the Italians, they make pizza.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: SeppIbra on December 04, 2010, 11:37:32 AM
Quiet, we make it for eat, not for slam it in your face  8)

I joke  :)
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: L scott on December 05, 2010, 02:27:26 AM
Cheater: hehehe, i will get the best players to my team, meheheh...

REPORTED

Cheater: What!? Banned!? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Cheaters aren't allowed!!!!!!

 8)
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Ancuta on December 07, 2010, 09:18:21 AM
Something like this:
04/12/2010 - GK - Dănuț Vasile (608792) - 30 years - From U Craiova (27639) to cfr craiova (29654) - transferred for 120,000 G (value of GK=98502);
At the first look everything is OK, but let's analyze this:
1. GK-30years-120000G- I think is to much;
2. Transferred between two teams from the same city: Craiova, Romania;
3. The buyer's name is sadsadadsad  rewrewrewfsfasda - what name is this?
4. The buyer's nickname is rerewrrewrew - what nick is this?
5. Buyer is joined to this game on 04.12.2010 - the date when the GK was sold.
6. Let's compare the IP of this two "players"
- the seller: last 10 logins from this IP> 79.117.183.xxx
- the buyer: last 10 logins from this IP> 79.117.183.xxx
So, what do you think ... is cheating or isn't?
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on December 07, 2010, 10:33:00 AM
I've reported the Game master.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Ancuta on December 09, 2010, 09:50:07 PM
Something like this:
04/12/2010 - GK - Dănuț Vasile (608792) - 30 years - From U Craiova (27639) to cfr craiova (29654) - transferred for 120,000 G (value of GK=98502);
At the first look everything is OK, but let's analyze this:
1. GK-30years-120000G- I think is to much;
2. Transferred between two teams from the same city: Craiova, Romania;
3. The buyer's name is sadsadadsad  rewrewrewfsfasda - what name is this?
4. The buyer's nickname is rerewrrewrew - what nick is this?
5. Buyer is joined to this game on 04.12.2010 - the date when the GK was sold.
6. Let's compare the IP of this two "players"
- the seller: last 10 logins from this IP> 79.117.183.xxx
- the buyer: last 10 logins from this IP> 79.117.183.xxx
So, what do you think ... is cheating or isn't?

The same guy:
09/12/2010 - FC - Dionisie Sala (608812) - 31 years - From U Craiova (27639) to F.C. Dinamo (30518) - transferred for 130,000 G (value of GK=98067);
Let's analyze this:
1. The buyer's name is saeewqr gfgfsadse - what name is this?
2. The buyer's nickname is rewrefvc - what nick is this?
3. Let's compare the IP of this two "players"
- the seller: last 10 logins from this IP> 79.117.183.xxx
- the buyer: last 5 logins from this IP> 79.117.183.xxx
and we talk about the same seller from quote ...
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on December 09, 2010, 11:58:48 PM
I've reported the Game master. Thank you.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: fuegoz on December 16, 2010, 06:18:04 PM
jeje umm the league  MEX  have  many team from the same ip  and similar nick xD

sry for my english  and i dont like the  translate ( i need practice XD )

Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: SeppIbra on December 16, 2010, 06:27:02 PM
1) Nickname : willer (11865)
Name : will  lioni
Nationality (Country) : Italy
Birthday : 16/08/1979
Sex : Male
Date Joined : 16/12/2010
Latest Login : 16/12/2010 17:15:56 (217.203.238.xxx)

2) Nickname : willerix (11876)
Name : will  lioni
Nationality (Country) : Italy
Birthday : 16/05/1979
Sex : Male
Date Joined : 16/12/2010
Latest Login : 16/12/2010 17:24:02 (217.203.238.xxx)

3) Nickname : gunters (11892)
Name : will  lioni
Nationality (Country) : Italy
Birthday : 16/05/1979
Sex : Male
Date Joined : 16/12/2010
Latest Login : 16/12/2010 17:42:53 (217.203.238.xxx)


I think that they are the same person in real life...I wait an your opinion, admin
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: L scott on December 16, 2010, 08:31:57 PM
but, is there any transfer made by these accounts?
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: SeppIbra on December 16, 2010, 08:41:29 PM
Not yet
I'll control their market daily
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: anniee on December 19, 2010, 04:40:35 PM
Ban the cheaters !

 >:(
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: fuegoz on December 24, 2010, 10:02:19 PM
umm  can be create  a rule  of  the new plaeyr cant buy "palyer" in 10-15 days after the registre.

this can be a good  for the new know the game  and think  before buy X player  and the cheater  can do many teams and tranfer players.

or  the  acocount from brothers  can  be report to admin  in X period of time  and they no  report  can be  sansioned.

only  ideas  i  put it here for be vs cheater.

Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: MvcL on December 25, 2010, 02:33:53 AM
there are cheaters in the sales of players, the admin has to put a program to ban anyone is making sales and purchases of the same pc or the same network, if the player is acting honestly he will get in contact with the master of the game.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on December 25, 2010, 03:07:41 AM
@fuegoz and fuegoz.

That is a very good idea.
In the future, new users may not use the transfer market for a suitable amount of time.
At the same time, we may implement a robot to catch cheaters.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: L scott on December 31, 2010, 08:55:12 PM
@fuegoz and fuegoz.

That is a very good idea.
In the future, new users may not use the transfer market for a suitable amount of time.
At the same time, we may implement a robot to catch cheaters.

You said 'fuegoz and fuegoz.'?

also, that is a very good idea
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on January 03, 2011, 02:07:44 PM
@fuegoz and fuegoz.

That is a very good idea.
In the future, new users may not use the transfer market for a suitable amount of time.
At the same time, we may implement a robot to catch cheaters.

You said 'fuegoz and fuegoz.'?

also, that is a very good idea

My bad. I meant fuegoz and MVCL.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on January 03, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
Please don't cheat and I mean it !

http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?board=138.0 (http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?board=138.0)

 >:(

Fair play, please.



Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: nuerta on February 09, 2011, 03:55:04 PM
So, after today's matches, I'm very close to end playing this game, even I really started to enjoy it.
Why?
Can someone please explain to me this:
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=23611
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_overviews.php?club_id=23605

So, in my league 2nd team to be promoted in higher league will be or cheater or BOT. I want to believe it's first one, becouse I can't understand how BOT can be better then me, who is working so hard to lead my team, buying best players for me, trainig etc. Shortly, it's not fair.
Also, I'm sure that many teams in my league are BOT's, and it's OK untill someone replace them, but it's not OK that they are taking places of humans in higher leagues.

Please, answer to me soon, so I can think of my next steps in Gokickoff.

Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: ultra_rosso_nero on March 15, 2011, 12:02:22 PM
Cheaters are only in transfers ?
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Kr10s on April 18, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
Take a look at this:

http://www.gokickoff.com/manager_info.php?user_id=38491  :(

http://www.gokickoff.com/manager_info.php?user_id=45380
I don´t know any argentinian named "khamphan  sssssss"......
But look at this:
http://www.gokickoff.com/team_transfer.php?club_id=95094

This team sold 12 players and bought only one...... ¿how much did he pay? 892,000 G por a player valued at 70,764 G!!!!!!!!!  >:(

Isn't it strage?  ::)
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: guricito on April 24, 2011, 04:08:31 AM
The possible trap Serious the following one:
The players' sale between these clubs
                                                                         BOCA Jr  (95094)
                                                                        ST TEH . Athletic  (85805)
Name:     Bae Paik (1925687)
 Club:     MOUTH Jr (95094)
 Better Position:     M C
 Age:     18 Age
Valor Estimado :     71,026 G

Date                        Of                         To                         Value
18/04/2011    ST TEH . Athletic                 BOCA Jr               892,000 G
Notice and they have the same IP

http://www.gokickoff.com/manager_info.php?user_id=38491
http://www.gokickoff.com/manager_info.php?user_id=45380

I wait not to be wrong
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on April 25, 2011, 02:08:15 AM
I've reported to the game master.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Kr10s on May 05, 2011, 01:00:26 PM
BTW, look what this same guy is doing with the squad, can´t you do something?

http://www.gokickoff.com/team_players.php?club_id=95094

He already sold 16 players, now is selling 3 more (the 3 most expensive, BTW), his squad will have 3 goalkeepers, 1 defender and no strikers! It's clear that he doesn't care about that team........

He already sold most of the squad, bought a player at a high value (banned later) but his team in argentinian league is being dismembered...... look, if you want to make national teams in a couple of seasons something must be done, it's not fair to see so many people creating teams in my country just to full his pockets in their main teams, can't you do a IP ban? That guy doesn't deserve other thing......

I don't care if anybody outside Argentina creates a team (this means less bots for the game), but at least give it some decent management for the good of the league (before that team, i'd preffer a to face a bot, seriously), it's not fair...... it's hard to get money, hard to create a decent team and suddenly somebody creates a team, f**** this league and fills his counts? This must stop!
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: guricito on May 05, 2011, 03:17:43 PM
I share what you express CarlosT, I am from Argentina, and there are many inactive equipments from his creation even and serious suitable that for the season 3 filter those equipments that take part of the top leagues and that are not regular assets of the game.....
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on May 05, 2011, 03:51:47 PM
Thank for reporting. We'll check it.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Brian Clough on September 16, 2011, 04:46:04 AM
So there are several accounts in the USA leagues that are managed by suspect Thais. Most of them are inactive accounts, so I'm not worried about them, but there's one active user from Thailand (confirmed) that needs to be addressed:


 This is CHEATING. Not only should this user get booted, the cup prize, or a good portion of it, should be given to last season's runner up (and it wasn't me)!

Edit: for anonymity
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: intervention on September 16, 2011, 11:15:34 AM
The majority (not all) of the cheaters would use the same IP address, it is not too difficult to spot these IP addresses. Maybe a marshal should be assigned to each league to look out for such things, the marshal would then give the players the opportunity to explain why they have the same IP and also look into actions shared between the teams with the same IP!

Alternatively, it would not be too difficult for the system to highlight identical IP addresses and record activity between the accounts, this would allow just one person to marshal this :)

For the record... I hate cheats!!!!
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Etienne on September 16, 2011, 12:46:46 PM
There are many tools to bust cheaters and I hope GKO staff used most of them
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: admin on September 21, 2011, 05:36:57 AM
@Champione

I've reported the game master. We'll do something about this case.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: sarad987 on September 20, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
Hey admin, I have two quick questions for you:

Can me and my roommate play from same IP adress and not get banned? (my friend is banned and I got -1M G)

How can you check if someone is cheating in that situation?   :-\
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: gabrielis on September 20, 2012, 08:31:36 PM
Hey admin, I have two quick questions for you:

Can me and my roommate play from same IP adress and not get banned? (my friend is banned and I got -1M G)

How can you check if someone is cheating in that situation?   :-\

same ip trading players
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Harper on September 20, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
Now they can't add any new teams to the leagues, so they won't also ban any cheaters, lol. Cheating allowed!

And it's very stupid that you can create team in any country if you have premium acc. We have an example in Gabon...
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Drifter on September 21, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
What about rewarding cheaters with their just rewards.  I hate finding a player I like but... oh no...  :'( they are owned by a banned player.  What about relegating these players to the lowest leagues possible... Send them to the dungeon for them to never return.  Just an idea.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Drifter on September 21, 2012, 04:56:52 PM
 ;) I think that the main motivation behind cheating is the desire for success at the highest level.  With this in mind, we must also consider what motivates the cheaters actions.  I believe that cheaters cheat, because they feel the benefit of cheating outweighs the punishment of being caught.  This can be fixed. 

I would suggest that changing the punishment for cheating could substantially reduce the level of cheating in this game.  The paranoia that is created amongst honest players is something that needs to be reduced.  I have a suggestion that could help with both of these problems.

 :D What about instead of banning players from the game, we relegate them. This would have new restrictions of course.  Players being accused of cheating or that admin.  deem cheaters would be banned from TOP LEAGUE for life, banned from INTERNATIONAL CUPS for life, and could only ever hope to aspire to some specified league level.  These rules could be played with but the principle is one that would make players think twice about ever trying to cheat. 

Right now, I don't see any reason for a banned player to not make another team and carry on as usual.  Let them have their criminally acquired players, but also let their teams live with the stigma of being labelled cheaters.  Let their efforts in nondescript leagues with no possibility of fame or reputation be a reminder to those who would cheat that you will never reach the highest point of this mountain without doing things honestly.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: sarad987 on September 22, 2012, 11:05:06 AM
same ip trading players

That's not answer to my question. So I should forbid my roommate to buy player that he wants to buy? And he didn't buy player for 1 million or something unreal, he bought it for real price... I am not that stupid to risk 4 seasons of play for 300k G! So my question still is - How can you check if someone is cheating in that situation? Can you check different mac addresses or something? I think that lot of players have the "roommate problem" and it would be very useful to solve it....
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Kr10s on September 22, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
same ip trading players
he didn't buy player for 1 million or something unreal, he bought it for real price...

He made something forbidden, is that so hard to understand?
And no, we usually don't have the "roommate problem", we have (at most) the "my little brother did it" problem (at least, you are more creative).
Anyway.... having more than 1 account is forbidden, if you are having 2 (or more) teams using the same IP i believe they already were fair enough with you, but men.... if you did not started to play yesterday you can't be saying such excuse, like it or not you broke a rule and you both should know that you were doing...

So please, stick to the rules and tell every roommate you might have that trading players is forbidden if you share the same IP.

Ah, i forgot... GKO is not an exeption, that rule exist in every online manager you might find on the net, that's a basic anti-cheating rule.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: sarad987 on September 22, 2012, 12:51:33 PM
Ok m8, we didn't know that... I didn't read in the rules that I have to report my roommate with same IP adress, but I did it when they banned him (still didn't get the answer from GKO) so is there any chance to unbanned him, and give me back my money? We'll make sure not to make this mistake again...    :D
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: Kr10s on September 22, 2012, 01:17:10 PM
You will need to wait GM's answer, that is his decision.
Title: Re: Attention, cheating is not allowed!
Post by: investdm on October 13, 2012, 04:53:37 PM
i putt my young player on the TM for 1 000 000 G  i thinkg its imposible to ofer , but i log today and i see that i have ofer fo the player , i like to know if i will be banned  ? please tell me  :(