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Title: Season 8 - new features
Post by: admin on April 02, 2013, 07:55:52 AM
- Changes in the player transfer system
http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=12418.0
1. We will introduce "Signing On Fee" which is the amount of money that a team need to pay to the player upon bidding success.
[Signing On Fee = 50 x (Offered Wage - Base Wage).] (Base Wage is the estimated wage by the system)

This system will decrease the problem of unreasonable offered wages.
Example : Bid a player for 500K and offer wage for 10K (Base Wage =  3K ) => Must pay Signing On Fee for 50 x (10K - 3K)

2. We will increase the amount of transfer value when selling a player, which is promoted from your academy. (Previous system =  35%)

3. We will increase the bonus of the transfer value when selling a player, which is promoted from your academy, from 5% to 10%.
This means that you receive at most 80% + 10% = 90% when selling any player promoted from your academy.

4. The percentage of money a team receives from selling a player will increase faster than the previous version.
We use straight line model for the previous version, whereas we will use curve model for the new version.
This means that at the beginning the percentage of money will increase faster. (This change applies to all players.)

- Youth camp

- You can build up to 3 youth camps in any countries (but not your country)  without any cost but you have to pay maintenance fee on a weekly basis (at least 5,000 G per week).

- On Thursday at 06:00:00 (server time), each club has to invest an amount of money on every youth camp that it owns.

- If the amount of money is not enough to deduct, only 5,000 G will be invested for that week.

-  Your Investment will be accumulated up to 2 seasons.
E.g. First year invest 50,000 G -> cumulative investment = 50,000 G
Second year invest 100,000 G -> cumulative investment = 150,000 G
Third year invest 200,000 G -> cumulative investment = 300,000 G
Fourth year invest 100,000 G -> cumulative investment = 300,000 G

- In each country, every youth camp will be ranked based on the cumulative investment of each club.

- The total investment on youth camps of each country will affect the ability of youth players in that country.

- Between the 9th week to 15th week of league competition, youth competitions will be held to search for young talents.
Each youth camp will sign a player and send that player to the club automatically.

- Another youth competitions will be held between the 25th week to 30th week of league competition to select another youth player for each club.

- Therefore, each youth camp will send 2 youth players to the club every season.

- A youth player will choose to join a club based on the ranking of the club's camp that suit his ability.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: LieCheatNsteal on April 02, 2013, 08:03:12 AM
i would request admin to explain why this seasons new intake players progress rate were around 2 to 4 only?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ologga on April 02, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
or explain why when we built the best level, the academy used to give normal players and now they have moved the internal level and give less quality than before. We have paid very much money by an academy with a determinate level that know doesn't exist.

in other words we continue paying the same money but the product is worst. in market terms what is that?.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: admin on April 03, 2013, 08:58:00 AM
Update
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: N-D-A-F on April 03, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
i have already promoted players , very bad players , what we should do ?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: admin on April 03, 2013, 09:05:06 AM
i have already promoted players , very bad players , what we should do ?

You should have waited and see the player report before you promote the player.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: N-D-A-F on April 03, 2013, 09:07:21 AM
Can you do something to take them from me , and too put new players ?? I didnt knew..
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ologga on April 03, 2013, 09:14:27 AM
If we have paid xent to 20,000,000m for build our bets academy and we are already paying 30,000 each week?, why we must pay again big amounts of money for get good players?.

do you mean that we must compete between us in each country making the biggest invest for reach the best youths?.

can I get a good player from my current academy withouth invest in camps?.

why all players received this season from academies are really bads?, perhaps you should eliminate all received players and give us again players with a real level and not this horrible players.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ruta on April 03, 2013, 09:16:19 AM
Can you do something to take them from me , and too put new players ?? I didnt knew..
        Ignorantia iuris nocet . You are funny guy , NDAF ,lol
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: N-D-A-F on April 03, 2013, 09:17:35 AM
Can you do something to take them from me , and too put new players ?? I didnt knew..
        Ignorantia iuris nocet . You are funny guy , NDAF ,lol

 :)
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Rincewind on April 03, 2013, 09:20:42 AM
So, no U15 youth players at the end? Will the camp's players be transfered directly to the youth team or to the academy?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: admin on April 03, 2013, 09:34:32 AM
So, no U15 youth players at the end? Will the camp's players be transfered directly to the youth team or to the academy?

To youth team.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ruta on April 03, 2013, 09:38:05 AM

why all players received this season from academies are really bads?,
Today I,ve seen there is 69 best academies in GKO . Last season was only 11 or 12 at the begining. So the chance to get very good player from best academy is much lower then last season if the quota of them didn't change. As I said many times before , academy is not only way to develop ours clubs.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: admin on April 03, 2013, 09:39:54 AM
If we have paid xent to 20,000,000m for build our bets academy and we are already paying 30,000 each week?, why we must pay again big amounts of money for get good players?.

do you mean that we must compete between us in each country making the biggest invest for reach the best youths?.

can I get a good player from my current academy withouth invest in camps?.

why all players received this season from academies are really bads?, perhaps you should eliminate all received players and give us again players with a real level and not this horrible players.

If we have paid xent to 20,000,000m for build our bets academy and we are already paying 30,000 each week?, why we must pay again big amounts of money for get good players?.

-> To have the opportunity of getting more talent youths to your team.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ologga on April 03, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
If we have paid xent to 20,000,000m for build our bets academy and we are already paying 30,000 each week?, why we must pay again big amounts of money for get good players?.

do you mean that we must compete between us in each country making the biggest invest for reach the best youths?.

can I get a good player from my current academy withouth invest in camps?.

why all players received this season from academies are really bads?, perhaps you should eliminate all received players and give us again players with a real level and not this horrible players.

If we have paid xent to 20,000,000m for build our bets academy and we are already paying 30,000 each week?, why we must pay again big amounts of money for get good players?.

-> To have the opportunity of getting more talent youths to your team.

and these players that we will obtain from the schools, their level, is only related to the invest that we make or depends too of the invest that other schools make in the same country.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: firecloud0102 on April 03, 2013, 09:47:45 AM
So, no U15 youth players at the end? Will the camp's players be transfered directly to the youth team or to the academy?

To youth team.

So , that means , there will be 7 youth from academy and 6 youth from 3 camps ?  totally, 13 youths every season at last?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ologga on April 03, 2013, 09:55:17 AM

why all players received this season from academies are really bads?,
Today I,ve seen there is 69 best academies in GKO . Last season was only 11 or 12 at the begining. So the chance to get very good player from best academy is much lower then last season if the quota of them didn't change. As I said many times before , academy is not only way to develop ours clubs.


do you want to mean that the chance of receive really good players is related to the number of best academies???, if a team invest the maximun must have the same possibility of receive a very good player that other one. I hope you are wrong because it should be unacceptable.

then, what will happen next season with f.ex. 200 best, or in season 10 with 300 best academies???.  :-[
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Rincewind on April 03, 2013, 10:00:01 AM
So, no U15 youth players at the end? Will the camp's players be transfered directly to the youth team or to the academy?

To youth team.

So , that means , there will be 7 youth from academy and 6 youth from 3 camps ?  totally, 13 youths every season at last?

So, don't you think that this will increase tremendously the number of players in the game and thus the transfer market will crash ?

Additional question: Do you plan to show clubs and nations rankings and the number of camps in a particular country somewhere on the site?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Kr10s on April 03, 2013, 10:00:59 AM
- In each country, every youth camp will be ranked based on the cumulative investment of each club.

- The total investment on youth camps of each country will affect the ability of youth players in that country.

In other words, if we pick a low populated country our chances to getting talent there are minimal, unless we invest far more money than other managers invested in populated countries. Am i wrong?
Now, considering that some people picked a country to build a camp without any info, is there a chance to let teams remove a camp? End of season maybe?

- A youth player will choose to join a club based on the ranking of the club's camp that suit his ability.

Will it be absolutely automatically? Is there any chance that a team that made a low investment receives a better player than somebody better ranked? It happens in academy after all, and a little random can make things interesting as well.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ruta on April 03, 2013, 10:26:58 AM
On 1st question is answer is  here
3.  I accidentally opened a camp for young players in Afghanistan. How to turn off?  (http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=14065.msg102674#msg102674)


3. There will be a cancel button soon.

Generally I understand like You, Carlos. The better way is to build in the most popular country . But the competition for the youth will be higher ther , too
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: chuncho_ on April 03, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
truth ...... 7 +2 +4,5,6 = _x 6 Tolken

hopefully not a commercial quite see this tool
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: ????? on April 03, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
can we move our young camp to another courntry? i find no menu for cancel or move?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Littmann on April 03, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
can we move our young camp to another courntry? i find no menu for cancel or move?
http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=14065.msg102674#msg102674 (http://forum.gokickoff.com/index.php?topic=14065.msg102674#msg102674)
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: asjm on April 03, 2013, 03:05:39 PM
Is this kind of "youth competitions" viewable?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Brian Clough on April 03, 2013, 03:51:13 PM
2 - What would be their age? Let them be 16 years old at most, at least this season, you didn't gave us the full data before promoting our youth, be fair with us.

I distinctly remember seeing in admin's original post that players would be 13-15 in youth camp and would move to academy at age 16, but it seems to be gone now...

Academy reports should available instantly for players from youth camps when they move to academy, assuming they have been in youth camp for at least 4-8 weeks, anyway.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Kr10s on April 03, 2013, 04:08:07 PM
Yes Brian, you're probably right, i readed deeply admin's explanation now, so i realized that my question was a nonesense  :P

In other words, we will receive up to 13 youth players each season, if we have 3 youth camps set, right?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: dantes on April 04, 2013, 09:01:13 AM
Brian, admin said they will never move to academy. Those players from camps go directly to youth team. We do not need to pull them, they will come automatically to our teams.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: tucko89 on April 04, 2013, 05:24:42 PM
And as I can understand from their post, we will receive twice in the season players from the camp,so we will have 6 players from the camps received in the regular season and plus 7 in beginning of the next season, so we got 13 youth players every season :)
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Igecot on April 05, 2013, 01:20:10 AM
How to get better players ?

1. If I invest 5k in country where I am 2 in rank or
2. If I invest 20k in country where I am 10 in rank ?!
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Megacreep on April 05, 2013, 06:25:49 AM
If we have paid xent to 20,000,000m for build our bets academy and we are already paying 30,000 each week?, why we must pay again big amounts of money for get good players?.

do you mean that we must compete between us in each country making the biggest invest for reach the best youths?.

can I get a good player from my current academy withouth invest in camps?.

why all players received this season from academies are really bads?, perhaps you should eliminate all received players and give us again players with a real level and not this horrible players.

If we have paid xent to 20,000,000m for build our bets academy and we are already paying 30,000 each week?, why we must pay again big amounts of money for get good players?.

-> To have the opportunity of getting more talent youths to your team.
pls answer me if I'm wrong.
My under standing if investment of  youth camp that we selected is very high and I put total investment around 10-15 million  for keep top five of ranking. Youth player opportunity that we will receive is better than the best academy  or same ?.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: daniele2607 on April 05, 2013, 12:23:43 PM
admin, many players like me, complain of having opened the camp in Afghanistan by mistake, just start going to vary the amount of weekly payment, now I ask you, you can move only this camp in some way, it may not be closed? thank you! ;)
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: tucko89 on April 05, 2013, 01:51:11 PM
admin, many players like me, complain of having opened the camp in Afghanistan by mistake, just start going to vary the amount of weekly payment, now I ask you, you can move only this camp in some way, it may not be closed? thank you! ;)

Admin said that they are working on option for canceling camp so be patient, we all want to delete some camp
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: RayLei on May 09, 2013, 08:56:23 AM
Are you fucking idiot, admin?

Best academy can only generate rubbish youth, but around 100 194+ youth are generated from Youth Camp over one night.

You are an idiot, no doubt!

FUCK!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Drahcir on May 09, 2013, 09:36:32 AM
I would not put it in those exact words (although I might like to), but it is somewhat true. There are many players who have now invested ca 20million in upgrading youth academy and gotten no better than LA 8-9 players (all of whom this season seems to have rubbish PR). Then comes along some newbie (no offence) and invests 500k in a youth camp somewhere and gets the same quality player? Seems fair...?

I wonder what players will be like in the next "draw" when amount of money is doubled, not to mention next season when amount of money is cumulated and thus 4x the amount now invested. Should in theory generate some pretty good players.

I'm not too far off upgrading my academy to "the best", though I'm wondering if that might not be the "best" thing to do...
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: muchccc on May 09, 2013, 09:40:30 AM
We use 4?5 seasons, spend  tens of millions for the academy? and use so much tokens?in order to get  good players from academy.as these people use half a season with a million to get better players from youth Camp? >:( >:(
Admin,I think it's a shit change?
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: chuncho_ on May 09, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
yes
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Ologga on May 09, 2013, 12:18:46 PM
at least in camps system use tokens is not allowed. more fair.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: daniele2607 on May 09, 2013, 12:32:16 PM
use, use tokens... im happy for who use tokens!! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: daniele2607 on May 09, 2013, 12:43:07 PM
admin insert a button to clear the camp..... quickly! ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: daniele2607 on May 09, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
ALONSO GS (178920)...THIS TEAM IS IN THE SAME CAMP IN 2 POSITION OF CLASSIFICATION AND TAKE 2 YOUNGERS...HOW IS POSSIBLE??
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: tucko89 on May 09, 2013, 06:18:39 PM
ALONSO GS (178920)...THIS TEAM IS IN THE SAME CAMP IN 2 POSITION OF CLASSIFICATION AND TAKE 2 YOUNGERS...HOW IS POSSIBLE??

You can make multiple camps in one nation, thats why he got 2 youngsters from one nation, this is obviously a bug that needs to be repaired.
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: chuncho_ on May 09, 2013, 06:40:54 PM
adm.

before reviewing it

if the intensity of the random ups x each season, according to his appreciation of this game
could tell us far will come and who will be more likely to lose potential
with this conpensara possession? was compensated high values ??of players?
because if you really wanna be like reality, not this consigendo
disproportionate rise chance, thanks to multipartdos, such as the 21 games. We clearly show that the new percentage of chance that you have increased turns against the seriousness of this game
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: HSTEHSTE on June 07, 2013, 06:47:07 AM
Can anyone tell me when will the next round of Youth Camp players arrive?thx :)
Title: Re: Season 8 - new features
Post by: Brian Clough on June 07, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
Can anyone tell me when will the next round of Youth Camp players arrive?thx :)

- A [second] youth competitions will be held between the 25th week to 30th week of league competition to select another youth player for each club.